Tua...''He's the greatest prospect ever''

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  1. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Of course McDaniel can change the narrative both by internally supporting in locker room and building everything around Tua's strengths.

    You aren't hearing it yet, but they are going to if they keep going down this path. If things start rocky next year, you get the same dropoff against good teams, or Tua gets injured, you'll hear it. The question at that point won't be whether they still believe in Tua, but the question will be whether will they HAVE TO keep believing in Tua because of his contract. That's when things will get ugly.
     
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  2. Crash Jensen

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    It's the equivalent of an NBA team that doesn't have a three-level scorer who can break defenders down off the dribble in the clutch. Such teams are dependent on extraordinarily good team functioning across the board to win. Analogously if your QB can't avoid the rush and extend plays and make difficult throws down the field with arm strength, your NFL team is dependent on extraordinarily good -- and unlikely -- team functioning elsewhere.
     
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    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If I’m Grier, and knowing Tua and the dynamics of our Qb room, I’m signing a veteran mature backup Qb.
     
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  6. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Yes. You have to at least sign an experienced vet back up.
     
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  7. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    You can't sign Tua then give big money to a veteran backup.
     
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  8. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    I'd just draft a QB this season. Someone toolsy that you could start to develop.
     
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  9. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    And herein lies the problem.
     
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  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I still think you can get it down with the right guy.
     
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  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Dolphins finished in 31 st place in pass rush win rate for our line, something to keep in mind
     
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  12. Sceeto

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    Oh, I would definitely do that if possible.
    Psyched we don’t have a 3rd or 4th round pick.
     
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  13. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I hope so. Again, I do NOT want to start over, so would be great if we can make this work somehow.
     
  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There’s no need right now to be thinking that, there’s too much talent on the table with the player.

    Yes he’s got to mature and get in much better shape but there are skills that are elite that you can design around

    And yes the offense needs better design an diversity

    https://youtube.com/shorts/sGVlf9nt2BM?si=1H9CkjFu8kr_40a2
     
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  16. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    The creator of those ESPN stats admitted that one of their stats (Pass rush win rate) was flawed. Not really buying the pass blocking was that bad. How can they be 8th in run blocking in that stat but 31st in pass blocking?
     
  17. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Because pass blocking and run blocking are two extremely different beasts.

    That would be like asking why a punter can't kick a FG. They're both kicking a ball, but it's two really different skillsets.
     
  18. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Lol. No. It's really not THAT different.
     
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  19. TheHighExhaulted

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    OMG LuLzZzzz!11!



    Perhaps, listen to a hall of Fame offensive lineman and check out the intricacies of each? No it's just all the same LULzzzzz.

    You really don't have a clue. I used to think you knew a little bit at least.
     
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  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I just finished the final episode of hard knocks

    What a ****ing mess

    I am so disgusted with Tua right now I can’t even believe it

    I can believe how bad he let himself go and no one had the balls to get in his face

    Disgusting, no wonder he choked his season away, he was hiding from the truth by joking around with his teammates but deep down he knows he let himself go to so so much
     
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  21. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I need to finish it.

    Dude, I wasn't really focusing on it while watching, but with you mentioning it so much, I realized that was what was bugging me about Tua.

    He's fat and joking all the time.
     
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  22. Crash Jensen

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    Everybody on that team is joking all the time, including the head coach. They’re doing rehearsed end zone celebrations. The culture is a total mess. If we were running a comedy show it would be great, but we’re playing the rugged and intense game of pro football here.
     
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  23. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The last episode shows a lot of you know what to look for
     
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  24. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Who's this mafia style "problem solver" for the Dolphins??
     
  25. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    wondering how they could even determine that since Tua got rid of the ball so fast.
     
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  26. dolphin25

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    part of his nationality is to joke around like that. I have a friend same nationality and he does the same thing, but I would never want to get in a fight with him :)
     
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  27. resnor

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    It's also to be thick...and slow. Lol
     
  28. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I suppose, I see an immature young man who isn’t disilplined enough to train and eat right, and imo that’s a major problem
     
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  29. djphinfan

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    The problem with Tua is he’s thick from the waist down and gaining weight all goes there exasperating his situation.

    His trainers are doing a very bad job
     
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  30. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Here’s the problem with back-up quarterbacks. The days of the professional back-up quarterback are dead. And what do I mean by this?

    Two of the GREATEST back-up quarterbacks the Dolphins ever had were Earl Morrell and Don Strock. And what made them so great? It wasn’t their play on the field per se, although Morrell Carrie’s the Dolphins the majority of the ‘72 season…what made them GREAT was what they did on the sideline.

    Morrell was a mentor and peer coach to Griese.

    Strock was a mentor and peer coach to Marino. In fact, I saw an interview with Marino many many moons ago in which Marino credited Strock with a lot of his early success. He taught him the game.

    But the league doesn’t have that in back-ups anymore. The back-up is just another quarterback biding his time until he gets his shot.

    If the league had true professional back-ups, like the way it used to be, quarterback play in the league would be leaps and bounds better.
     
  31. Crash Jensen

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    Back then the Dolphins got to the Super Bowl by using Strock as a "bullpen" quarterback, which was termed "Woodstrock" -- the combination of David Woodley the starter and Don Strock the backup. When the team got down on the scoreboard and needed passing, they would insert Strock. In fact the famous playoff game against San Diego in which the Dolphins got down 24-0 in the first quarter involved inserting Strock, who mounted the famous comeback that included the hook and lateral touchdown just before the half.
     
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  32. dolphin25

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    Could be one reason for Mahomes success. He had a veteran backup in Henne
     
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  33. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I get that you’re trying to be funny, but I think you missed the point.
     
  34. dolphin25

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    What exactly was funny about that post? I think you missed the point, again. Was Henne not a veteran QB for many years with Mahomes?
     
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  35. danmarino

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    The point key was making wasn't that just a vet back-up QB is needed.

    His point was that veteran back-ups USED to be trained to help the starting QB's. That's not the case anymore. You mentioning Henne seemed like you were being facetious to me. Who the hell would want Henne teaching Mahomes?
     
  36. dolphin25

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    I doubt very seriously Strock was "trained" to teach Marino. The fact Henne was a pro and went through all the hype of being a franchise saviour, he knows how to deal with all the garbage that comes with the position. He could and did help Mahomes.

    "“The team has so much belief in Chad,” Mahomes said after the game. “He's done it before. He's won Divisional [Round] games by coming in and playing, so they had so much belief in Chad. We saw it in that 98-yard drive, he ran the offense the way the offense was supposed to be run.Jan 22, 2023"
     
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    A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
     
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