Danny Crossman outlasted Vic Fangio

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  1. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Unreal. Rooting for this team is an abusive relationship
     
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  2. Sceeto

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  3. Dan S

    Dan S Phins up!

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    Fangio is gone
     
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  4. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    The writing g was in the wall last year he wanted the eagles and now they hired him. We’re cooked we have massive issues on defense and now we installed a new system and he leaves. Wonder why he felt this wasn’t worth staying he was being paid extremely well.

    we’re taking a step back next year imho.
     
  5. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Man let's at least see who the replacement is.

    He left because his family is all around Philly, he just wasn't a great fit here. Really seemed like he wanted Philly to start with but there was some weird stuff going on with them last offseason so he came here instead. With that job open again he wanted to make the move.

    Most likely move is that we promote our LB coach, Anthony Campanile, who has been drawing some DC interest from teams like the Giants and is seen as an up and comer. Personally, and I seriously doubt it happens, but if Vrabel doesn't get a HC job I'd take him in a heartbeat. Brandon Staley may be an option as well, from that Shanahan tree and may have some familiarity with McDaniel.
     
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  6. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    But yeah I don't get Crossman still being here. Our special teams feels more like a liability than an asset.
     
  7. Sceeto

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    Just heard
     
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  8. Sceeto

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    Flores?
     
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  9. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Fangio didn't leave, he was fired.
     
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  10. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    The really frustrating thing with Crossman and the Special Teams is that when they just do things the easy way, everything is fine. Boot kick offs out of the back of the end zone. Don't return kickoffs and just take the touchback. Don't return punts, just fair catch them. Punt the ball deep and if its a touchback, we're fine. Don't try 55 yard field goals in poor conditions, etc.

    But then they keep trying to get cute and be more than they are, and it feels like it kills them every time in game changing ways. Kickoffs returned for TDs. Punts short out of bounds. Kickoff returns that end up tackled inside the 15 yard line and/or fumble. Missed really long FGs that give the other team great field position.

    If you have the talent to be great, then sure, trying those things can be an advantage and a weapon. But when you don't, then you're only going to hurt yourself. It drives me nuts.
     
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  11. dolphin25

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    I did not like we had two great press corners, yet we used them as soft zone defenders and asked a single guy to cover some of the fastest guys running across the field.
     
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  12. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    I see some saying he was fired with no info to support that. You could also assume he didn't like the culture here and/or knew this was a sinking ship with the cap situation.
     
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  13. dolphin25

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    lots of stuff about players not wanting him. so probably mutual kinda sorta
     
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  14. StaleTacos

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    Should have had the Eagles pay something to get him. He was under contract.
     
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  15. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    We're probably going to be obligated to play a simpler scheme next season with Cam Smith replacing Howard. And who knows who our starting SS will be with Elliot a FA.
     
  16. pumpdogs

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    We were taking a step back regardless.
    Who is.playing De next year?
     
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  17. Dorfdad

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    3 loses on defense next year 8-9 / 7-10
     
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  18. dolphin25

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    that would have been brilliant :) give us your first and you can have him
     
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  19. dolphin25

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    Not sure about that. It is possible we lose Baker, AVG, X, Wilkins, Elliot, the 2 DE will likely be middle of the road kind of things. Apple may not be back. Might as well run what the new DC wants to run and get players that fit.
     
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  20. resnor

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    Fangio gets fired but not Grier???
     
  21. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    You should actually learn about the things you decide to talk about.
    Between McD’s parting words and players being really vocal about him leaving it’s clear he was let go.
     
  22. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I totally agree. I wonder what the real back story on all of this was?
     
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  23. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    The NFL has made it clear that you can’t be compensated in this scenario.
     
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  24. dolphin25

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    Adam Beasley is reporting the same thing, Dolphins should have gotten a draft pick from the Eagles.
     
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  25. dolphin25

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    They give up picks for head coaches, why not cordinators under contract. They could have worked it to where hey we give you this chump and you give us a 2nd and we will let Fangio out of contract.
     
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  26. StaleTacos

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    Yeah, it's in the collective bargaining agreement, “clubs are not permitted to exchange draft choices or cash for the release of individuals who are under contract to another organization,” but it includes a provision that excludes head coaches and other “high-level club employees” from that prohibition. High level employees would be DCs.
     
  27. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Adam Beasley, doesn’t know what he’s talking about:

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  28. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Nope. I mean, if Philly wanted to be nice they could have given the Dolphins something. But, they wouldn’t and neither would any other team.
     
  29. StaleTacos

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    High level employees can be coordinators.
     
  30. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Lmao… Can’t comprehend what you read either? Nice try at cutting out some of the rule though. Nice touch.

    You can’t trade a coordinator. It’s pretty clear in what you half posted and I fully posted. A coordinator doesn’t have the same or equal responsibilities and authority as the owner, HC, or GM. Not even close.

    Want more proof? How about common sense. Do you think any team owner or HC would ever give up the opportunity to get a player or draft picks? Do you really believe the Dolphins had the opportunity to get one or more of these things and from the goodness of their own hearts said “no”?
    Comical
     
  31. StaleTacos

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    A "high level club employee" can be coordinator. It's not your fault.
     
  32. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    This situation is another reason why this points to all signs that Fangio was fired.
     

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