Dolphins GM wants Tua long term

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  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Same logic you all have been preaching.
     
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  2. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    LMAO!! Stop parroting Romo. He was hit after his follow through. He missed the throw. A 44 yard FG in BUffalo isn't a gimme.

    Allen outplayed Tua? LMAO!

    Allen's 2 games vs KC- 86 and 68 passer rating

    Tua's 2 games against KC- 87 and 64 passer rating

    Hmmm...it's almost as if that KC pass defense is good, huh?
     
  3. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Clowns: Elite QB's win in the post season...Allen is ELITE!!

    Non-clowns: The Bills lost


    Clowns: Oh..that's different. He's not Tua.


    LMAO
     
  4. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Well, the outcome is we played both these teams twice this year, and all four times they beat the crap out of us and Tua played terrible.

    And when they played each other, they both outplayed Tua and his track team of weapons against these same defenses.
     
  5. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    All he could do was score just 7 points in the second half. It’s almost like KC made an adjustment or something.
     
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  6. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Allen could only score 7 in the second half. And he lost. How is playing and losing playing better. His decision making is suspect when the games in the line. They need to blow it all up and fire the coach. It’s been 5 years of not getting even to a Super Bowl.
     
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  7. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Allen can have a bad game passing but still win it with his toughness and running ability. Tua can't. The Bills beat the Chiefs earlier in the season, and they were close to winning in the playoffs also. Dolphins on the other hand were not even competitive both times they played KC this year, and Tua did not play well.
     
  8. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Josh Allen playoffs wins:
    2020 Philip rivers
    2020 Lamar Jackson concussion in the 3rd quarter
    2021 Mac jones
    2022 Skylar Thompson
    2023 Mason Rudolph


    ELITE!! LMAO!!!
     
  9. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    But…but….they were close to winning is the new standard. For Allen I guess. Not everyone else. lol.
     
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  10. cbrad

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    Doesn't matter. Allen often chokes in big games. Allen has been on a team that has had one of the best defenses and offenses year after year, and while he can play a game or two really well in the postseason he is also a major reason the Bills can't get over the hump and get to the SB, much less win it. The Bills with Allen have been a failure thus far, given that winning the SB is the ultimate goal.

    You need to be consistent in criticizing Allen just like you criticize Tua. It doesn't matter if Allen has a strong arm, there's no evidence the Bills are serious contenders for the SB with him.

    And btw.. the same is true with Lamar Jackson. He finally played one postseason game well. But if he can't win a SB playing 4 out of 5 years with a top 3 defense then his physical traits are irrelevant. At least with Tua it's a small sample size for the postseason. Not so with Allen and Jackson.
     
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  11. StaleTacos

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    Not really. I'm showing you stats where one players has been completely non-competitive against playoffs teams, and one player who has been. Against the Chiefs, Allen showed up, put up 3 TDs, put his team in position to tie/win, and Tua laid a complete egg against the same competition. One player is losing but is in the building keeping it close and competing, and another player is pooping on himself and falling down some stairs before he gets to the field. If your argument is the result is the same, sure, but the Dolphins can get that same result with me at QB. Maybe I should be the QB.
     
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  12. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Yep.

    Allen just isn't the guy or else they'd have numerous SB's. He's a choke artist. Arm like a cannon and brain like an alligator.

    Their cap situation is worse than the Dolphins and they won one more game this year and one more game than the Dolphins in the playoffs last year. Their GM, HC, and QB are all suspect and not winners. Healthiest offense in the playoffs and they choke. Mainly due to their QB.

    Perennial pre-season AFC SB favorites over the past 5 years and nothing. They're frauds. Just like their career 92 passer rating QB.


    (Am I doing this right?)
     
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  13. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Ummm...hey, bucko, they just lost. lmao
     
  14. hitman8

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    We haven’t been close to winning squat. What actually is your comparison?
     
  15. cbrad

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    Yet you think Jackson is great. That guy laid an egg many many times in the playoffs until last week where he finally played well, for one game at least. Why not offer Tua the same opportunity to prove he can improve? Of course not.

    And with you as QB we'd be 0-17. BIG difference to 11-6 and at least making the playoffs.
     
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  16. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Seems like you could also be the Bills QB and get the same results. lmao
     
  17. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    We had the same record as the Bills this season. And we suffered catastrophic injuries. The Bills were 6-6 at one point this season before their new OC took the ball out of Allen's hands. Allen finished the season with an 89 passer rating. He put up a whopping 86 in this game. The Bills offense was one of the healthiest in the playoffs. Allen choked it all away.
     
  18. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Maybe. You think I could smash Tua too like Allen? lmao
     
  19. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    He won't because he's not a fan of the Dolphins.
     
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  20. danmarino

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    Allen is never on the field at the same time as Tua.

    What games are you watching? Does your Josh Allen poster talk to you?
     
  21. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Lol. Lucky for Tua. Can you imagine him trying to tackle Allen?
     
  22. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    You cannot look at just passer rating with Allen since a huge part of his game is rushing and making plays on his own. And Allen does not have the same quality and quantity of weapons Tua has.
     
  23. cbrad

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    Yeah he's happy to see the Dolphins lose if it's because Tua played bad. Can't respect that at all on a Dolphins message board.
     
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  24. danmarino

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    Ohhhhh...so Allen needs play makers.

    He must not be elite then.

    You're too easy.
     
  25. cbrad

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    He makes great plays, but he also chokes too much. Not the right QB for winning a SB.
     
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  26. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention, if you think 86.1 is bad, what do you think about Tua's 63.9?
     
  27. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Bills FA's:
    Gabe Davis
    Micah Hyde
    DaQuan Jones
    Leonard Floyd
    Tim Settle
    Jordan Phillips
    Tyler Matakevich
    Poona Ford
    Dane Jackson
    Tyrel Dodson
    David Edwards
    Trent Sherfield
    Damien Harris
    Taylor Rapp
    Linval Joseph
    A.J. Epenesa
    Shaq Lawson
    Latavius Murray
    Cam Lewis
    Quintin Morris


    And they're in worse cap hell than the Dolphins. What a bunch of frauds. They're in trouble. LMAO!!
     
  28. danmarino

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    Or Allen's 64 in their first KC game. You should do your homework before you troll.
     
  29. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Who does Tua have? Reek. That’s it. Waddle was hurt. Mostart too.

    maybe they should fire the Bills GM since they have the largest cap right now and they didn’t give Allen any weapons.
     
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  30. StaleTacos

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    You know 64 is better than 63.9? It's still better than Tua! LMAO!
     
  31. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    He's a RB that is afforded the protection of playing the QB position. He is NOT a great QB. HIs career 92 passer rating proves that. I mean, give the ball to Cook and he scores the TD's that Allen does. Same outcome because Allen isn't adding anything. He's just stealing runs from his RB's.
     
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  32. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Tua had an 89 against KC earlier this year which was better than Allen's game this go around. Again, you suck at trolling.
     
  33. danmarino

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    Not to mention that all 5 of the Bills OL played 100% of the offensive snaps this year.
     
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  34. cbrad

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    Yeah, once adjusted for era, you will find no "great" QB that has stats like Josh Allen. He's slightly above average as a passer and dangerous as a runner. Problem is he's too erratic and can't be relied on when it counts, despite some impressive games along the way.
     
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  35. hitman8

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    Why don't you look up Allen's rushing stats in that game, and compare them to Tua's. You''e saying Allen and Tua played just bout the same against KC this year in terms of passing, but if you look at the running aspect of playing QB, Allen literally runs away with the comparison.. And the Bills actually won the first game against the Chiefs, and almost won the second game also. On the other hand KC stomped us both times we played them this year.
     
  36. danmarino

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    No, because that's not how NFL football works. Can you imagine Manning or Brady trying to tackle Allen? I guess in your world Allen is better than those two because they can't tackle him.

    Trolls going to troll...
     
  37. hitman8

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    Stop it with the injury excuses. Its getting pathetic. Neither Waddle nor Mostert were hurt when we played Buffalo and KC earlier in the season, and they stomped us both times anyway.
     
  38. StaleTacos

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    You move the goalposts enough now? Jesus man.

    I know you want this to be about a game or two, but the facts are this. Allen and Lamar Jackson performed better against playoff teams than they did against non-playoff teams. Purdy too. Meanwhile, Tua is MUCH worse against playoff teams this season and in his career. I've posted these stats multiple times now.

    Tua just isn't on the field with these guys. He's pooped himself and is on the sideline. I get why you like him so much, you have a lot in common.
     
  39. danmarino

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    In each team's first game against KC Miami had 119 yards rushing and the Bills had 118. Tua played better than Allen as a QB though. Yes, the Bills won, but not because Allen did anything better than Tua, but because the Bills had a healthy and better team. The Bills played better, in Buffalo, in the playoffs, but they lost. Allen put up a below average passer rating. Sure, he took off running a few times on designed runs, but Miami hands the ball off on designed runs. A run is a run whether it's from Allen or Mostert. And Allen was afforded a healthy offense and a healthier defense. And they didn't play in -10F weather.

    Keep moving those goalposts for your buddy Allen though. That's what good Dolphins fans do.
     
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  40. Finatik

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    Losing is better than losing. OK. He can’t even get to the AFC championship with a stacked team at total health AND playing at home.
     
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