This is the best option IMO. I'd pull the trigger in a heart beat if they offer me a 2nd and 3rd for Tua.
Kirk Cousins off an achilles injury, who is 1-4 in the playoffs in his career. 5 TD passes in 5 playoff games. Such an upgrade. You are all out of your mind.
I thought Grier couldn't pick his nose? Now you're going to take the yards leader, for a poor chance based on your previous posts, with Grier. OK that makes total sense.
Same. My guess is Grier is stubborn and rolls with Tua, and McDaniel not going to push for the change.
And yet, Cousins still has better career numbers, better playoffs numbers, and has a much longer history of staying healthy in this league than Tua.
Tua will be 26, and Cousins will be 36. Are you really going to die on the trade Tua and sign Kirk Cousins hill?
For a guy worried about Tua proving to be healthy for another year, he wants to tie his wagon to an aging quarterback coming off an Achilles injury. Can't make it up.
Yeah lol. Trade Tua for a bunch of picks and give them to the guy who he hates more than anyone. At least think things through before you post hysterically.
34 year old Cousins was healthier than a 24 year old Tua. 33 year old Cousins was healthier than a 23 year old Tua. 32 year old Cousins was healthier than a 22 year old Tua. Cousins has been insanely durable in his career. Tua hasn't. 8 straight full healthy seasons before this injury. One injury doesn't change that. The outlier for Cousins was injury, the outlier for Tua was being healthy. You want to project forward on the outlier. Sell high.
I said if I was GM and I was offered picks for Tua, that would be the best move. Of course with Grier we are screwed either way since he will probably waste those two picks also. Although a second round pick would not be bad for Grier, historically that is his best round. He sucks in every other round but in the second he has been decent. It seems he takes less chances and reaches less in that round.
Doesn't matter if it's an outlier, coming back from an Achilles on the plant foot could critically affect his passing game and his ability to scramble. No thanks.
Tua in December/January is 10-10 and 0-1 in the playoffs. Cousins in December/January is 23-22 and 1-4 in the playoffs. Where's the upgrade?
Cousins has never been a scrambler, he has been durable his whole career and it's more than likely he has a couple of healthy and productive years left. Marino was also durable before he tore his Achilles on his plant foot, and he was durable after that injury as well. He played six more years after that and only missed games in his final year.
Originally, yes. Then later, somewhere between 10-15 years ago, there was a renewed push by some of the national writers to do a minor realignment, including moving the Fins to the NFC South. I believe the plan was to move the Colts to the AFC East and the Saints to the AFC South. It wasn't just one person talking about it, and it went on for a few seasons (I'd say the Sparano era) so it had legs on some level. Obviously, it didn't happen.
Marino was never the same again after that injury. He could muster a few good games a year, but he wasn't the same QB.
It's really not this career ending, and it's not like Cousins runs. He can plant his foot. That's not really something you can't do in recovery. https://www.healio.com/news/orthope...-returned-to-nfl-after-achilles-tendon-repair
I'm absolutely not advocating for moving away from Tua or towards Cousins, but IMO Marino's best year after 1986 was 1994, when he came back from the injury. He was wiser, more careful, and did a masterful job of spreading the ball around that season, which is something that Tua and McDaniel need to study urgently. We led the league in offense that season too, which is something that people seem to have forgotten over the years. Irving Fryar probably could have put up Tyreek Hill type numbers that season if Marino had eyes only for him, but instead he caught 73 for 1200, while Marino made excellent use of Keith Jackson, Keith Byars, OJ McDuffie, and an assorted group of RBs. Just took whatever was open and killed the defense most weeks, and it was a Hell of a lot cleaner than what we see now, despite the game being more even in those days between the offense and defense. More than anything, that's the type of step that I want to see our offense take next season.
Oh boy did that one leave a big scar. We won the AFC East that season, beat the Chiefs in our first playoff game, and we were up 21-6 at half time against the chargers with a chance to go to the AFC championship, then Shula goes conservative, the offense is shutdown in the second half, officials make some terrible calls against us, and Means runs all over our defense, until Marino puts together a game winning drive, and then Stoyanovich misses the game winner. That game was the inspiration for "the Dolphins make me cry" song. One of the saddest days of my life. But yeah back on topic QBs can definitely come back from an Achilles and play at a high level as Marino showed.
It's a lot of crapshoot. Getting top 5 or top 10 pick is no guarantee. Many bust. I'd draft a QB every season.
Well, what do you think tua is? If hes not top 20, sure. I think hes top 10. Which means the team has many position groups they can improve more drastically than qb. Id go OL and TE early. Im with drafting a project QB all the time to push him however cant this year due to limited draft capital (via ross and griers trades). 5 picks right now? OLx2 TE, CB, LB and id be looking to trade back as often as we can to accumulate unless McD is banging the desk for a guy
I don't think he's top 10. Many would agree with me. QB is by far the most important position on the field. It's not even close to other positions, especially OL and TE. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-using-...-to-examine-positional-value-in-the-nfl-draft
Statistically he was #1 last year and #5 this year, i.e., elite. The problem with Tua is how he plays in big games, not whether he can play at an elite level over multliple seasons. However, the "big game" sample size is very small, and we only have one playoff game. It's important to be certain Tua can't develop into a good big game QB before quitting on him. So at least for this year you don't draft a QB high. Go after other positions. If Tua fails again next year, then you quit on him.
Playoffs and in the running for the #1 or #2 seed late in the season? Yes please. We could go back to 6 and 7 win seasons for multiple years if you would prefer that?
Just go and look at how you structure contracts, he will cost less than $24M for next season and quite possibly the 2025 season as well with a new deal. https://overthecap.com/player/jalen-hurts/8793 https://overthecap.com/player/justin-herbert/8746 https://overthecap.com/player/joe-burrow/8741 Now, Tua's new deal should not be anywhere near this kind of money based on his play towards the end of the season. If it's more in the $40-$45M a year range look at these contracts. https://overthecap.com/player/josh-allen/6892 https://overthecap.com/player/matt-stafford/1060 https://overthecap.com/player/dak-prescott/4848 Re-signing Tua will give cap space for the next 2 season, which allows you to not only keep the core of the team together but go out and make some solid signings in the mould of David Long and pray to the injury gods that they forget about you for a season. If it's still not working in 2 years time then you think about blowing it all up, eat a lot of dead cap, tank the season and start again.
That was my senior year of high school. I'm still waiting for the team to get back to where they were at halftime of that game in San Diego. Kinda feel like the team has been on pause ever since, and I want to pick up where they left off.
Why would you do this instead of just playing a one year option on Tua? How much are you really going to save by extending one more season?
Of course it goes up, that's the way all contracts work as the salary cap increases each year. Did you not notice the smaller figures in the first and sometimes second year as well? That's what would happen if you extend Tua this offseason, that $23M number would come way down. Even the example you sent the salary was $6M, $13M, $21M and then finally $31M (Hurts contract). If the Dolphins followed that example then Tua would be looking at $13M in 2024 and $21M in 2025, both of which are lower than he current $23M cap hit. I wouldn't expect Tua to get Hurts money now as he shat the bed at the end of the season and Philly jumped the gun on the Hurts deal imho.
we shall see what happens, but I believe Hurts got his extension before the 5th year kicked in. Hopefully, they can cut the money in half, but that normally takes a lot of bonus money to make it happen
The Tua extension will save the team money here the next 2 years keeping the window open and the *****ing will make you think they brought Daunte Culpepper out of retirement
