McD needs to do several things: 1. Have a plan B and C ready anticipating how a defense could adjust in-game. It's a lack of experience he doesn't do that. 2. Evaluate his play calling in-game this season and fix the stupid stuff, like not running on short yardage 3. Change the culture to one where you don't get too elated if something works or too disappointed if something doesn't work. That needs to happen with some candid assessment communicated to the team and then reinforced through practice. This whole idea of "coasting" we saw earlier in the season is a sign of not having that killer instinct. All this can be fixed, but it requires McD to do some serious re-evaluation.
IMO, problem isn't the fight in Tua. Not a mental issue. It's complete nonsense as fans to think you know the mental strength of a player or another person. The problem is he's physically extremely limited. No coach is going to be able to fix it. McDaniel made Tua look good this year. He should win a Nobel Prize. There's no other coach in the league that could make Tua look that good, but he'll always be extremely handicapped in what he can do. The scheme he can run. God forbid a play doesn't work as intended, well, that play is dead because Tua can't run or buy time or figure things out. Rather than blame and fire another head coach, it's time to move on from Tua.
Tua to put it simply is a loser. He has no fire, leadership or toughness in him. He folds like a chair in big games and doesn't excel at any one aspect. He has the best offensive weapons in the league surrounding him and can't win tough games with them. Stats mean nothing and he won't have a season anywhere near this good statistically ever again. Skylar Thompson played better on a worse team against a better team in Buffalo last year. Tua made the Chiefs D look like the best in the league when we all Buffalo is going to roll them next week. McDaniel and Grier are also big issues. This organization needs a relocation and a complete house cleaning. Something they haven't done since I think the Cam Cameron season. Players who should never play another down as a Dolphin Tua, Ramsey, Howard(all the CBs can go) and Armstead.
I don't think you can scheme it in today's NFL. Mike McDaniel really really wants to and probably does it better than most but the league catches up. You need an athlete at QB that can make stuff up on the fly. There is a reason why this year's offenses were stagnated. At the end of the year when things have been studied and good personnel can handle the scheme, you need a blessed athlete to come in and make plays. We simply don't have that in Tua.
Correct. We faced the lowest amount of winning teams in the league. This season will not repeat, and highly unlikely Tua stays healthy another full season.
Based on what? Tua conclusively showed health is no longer the concern. Right now the major concern is showing up in big games, not health.
He just doesn't get tested. If he did he would be exposed. He's a smart player but he's past his prime/washed and can't cover or tackle that well.
He doesn't get tested because he's still very good. He made a lot of good plays for us. No you absolutely keep him.
There's nothing that happened this year that suggests health is a concern. And that's with a bad OL. Yes, he demonstrated conclusively he can play a full season without injury. That was the main concern most of us had.
At this point staying healthy is the exclusion, not the rule. If he stays healthy for 2-3 season, then I think you have a point
Can you answer to playoff success moving forward? When schemes are all figured out and players decide the games, how does Tua actually stack up against others in the AFC moving forward? The scheme obviously broke down over the last 3-4 weeks. How does Tua grow/evolve now?
Tua is a no-show in big games because he is totally dependent on surrounding players. Tua does not possess physical abilities to take over a game on his own. He can't create. He doesn't have a cannon, so he can't really create there, either. Just my opinion.
Let's remember the claim I was arguing against by StaleTacos: "highly unlikely Tua stays healthy another full season". Sorry, but that is not something you can infer from anything that happened this season. No it's not "highly unlikely" Tua stays healthy another full season. That's a claim without justification based on what happened this year.
It's so scary to think Grier could lock us into this bullshi* for another 5+ years in the offseason. I CANNOT MENTALLY HANDLE ANOTHER TANNEHILL
Like I said it's a mental issue. So many of those passes he missed today were passes he often completed throughout the regular season. Scheme is one thing. Not having the mental fortitude to play well in high pressure situations is the main problem with Tua now. How to fix that? Well it's up to McD. I do know you can train this if you're around people who have that for a long enough time, but McD doesn't look like he has it either. It's only McD's 2nd year so we'll see.
So you are believer that he has all the necessary Physical talents he needs to overcome other QBs/Defenses in the league?
Uhh... what? Him returning alone took this defens from being below average to damn impressive. There is nothing wrong with Jalen Ramsey at this point. Xavien Howard on the other hand...
Yeah because he has elite decision-making + accuracy assuming it's not a high enough pressure situation. We have 2 seasons of data with a large number of games demonstrating that. All that seems to break down when the pressure is too high. And speaking of McD he also doesn't have the killer instinct. I absolutely hated that conservative play calling in the 2nd half of Buffalo for example. Lots to work on in the offseason.
Tua is PHYSICALLY weak. Physically lacking in freaking everything. EVERYTHING. It's like saying I can't bench 400 lbs because I'm mentally weak. My mental game has nothing to do with this. No one knows how someone else is mentally. Especially a fan on a forum who has never met or talked to the other person. Tua is PHYSICALLY a complete disaster, and the system that McDaniel built was a system that worked with Tua's EXTREME physical limitations, but that type of system can only take you so far.
I think the conservative play calling comes down to Tua’s limitations. The guy goes from Cinderella to pumpkin pretty quickly when things don’t go according to plan. He’s got a sub 84 passer rating against play off teams. He throws stupid and untimely INT’s because he throws to spots in spite of what the defense is giving him.
Im baffled by this "elite decision-making" we assume this guy actually has and I don't want to be condescending in this. The media has fed this narrative but the media sucks. In big games against winning teams this year I think we are averaging like anywhere between 19-22 points. So what apart of that is actually 'elite'? The defense carried us in our only big win against Dallas.
He performed very well despite his physical limitations throughout much of the last 2 seasons. And yes you can tell when someone has the fire to be the best. Brady had it, Tua doesn't (yet). I think the best explanation for this failure is mental, not physical, especially when we saw how well the offense worked despite Tua's physical limitations.
I mean specifically the accuracy with quick release. There's generally a speed-accuracy trade-off in almost everything you do. At least when it comes to football Tua has demonstrated less of such a trade-off. And yes I agree McD has designed a system to accentuate Tua's strengths, but not any QB can do what he did.
Mac Jones had the 2nd quickest release this season. Elite decision making isn't a thing. It's just some QBs are gifted with ridiculous talent and scheme that allows them to make VERY easy decisions and throw balls into windows. Most decent QBs can do this, the things that Maholmes, Allen, Burrow, Jackson, ect... aren't easily replicated. Most QBs can't do that, but most decent QBs can do what Tua does.
Of course it is. Peyton Manning wasn't a physical specimen, but he had elite decision making to a degree almost no QB had. He was like an OC on the field. Yes it's a thing.
I was buying in on Tua this season. However, down the stretch here I'm out again and back on the fence but this time I'm more on the other side. Your points here though are all great, his quick release and accuracy are something we haven't seen since marino really. bUt his decision making and his composure in big spots... just isn't there. I dont know what's happened because i dont remember this from him at Alabama... but his performance tonight is not something you can use to justify paying the guy long term that's for sure. So the way I see it we either tag and trade him to someone willing to sign him long term or we tag him and do this again next year and we either end up with a deep playoff run, or we end up blowing it all up again.
It's the culture. The coach. McD has created a culture where it's supposed to be fun to play football. I think that really helped Tua gain confidence in himself, but it's the exact wrong culture to survive adverse conditions, i.e., win in do-or-die games. You need that "you're a failure unless you succeed" and "never let your guard down" type of attitude constantly reinforced through practice and after games. After wins you don't celebrate too much unless you won the SB. After losses you systematically look at what to improve on and keep going. McD has the wrong culture. I hope he realizes this. And btw Saban has the right mentality. So does Belichick, even if he needs a great QB to succeed.
Trade him and I’m being honest though many here would say that’s absolutely crazy! There are plenty of QB hungry teams but TUA isn’t going to be the long term Super Bowl answer. He didn’t step up once this year and carry the team. Every opportunity he was given he failed. Ryan tannehill would have Been close to his stats with this talent. I’m seriously….
