Week 18- Dolphins vs Bills

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  1. Springveldt

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    Where?

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  2. Springveldt

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    Another angle. I'm sure more will become available when people start reviewing the All-22. He threw it to the open space and Claypool takes his route too deep. Nothing really open though, he probably should have thrown it at Wilson's feet.

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  3. Two Tacos

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    So, the answer to my question as to what a "one read QB" is to you, is a QB that makes no reads after the snap and locks into one receiver? If so, strongly disagree. Bad decisions happen. QBs have bad plays, but that is not how Tua generally plays.
     
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  4. hitman8

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    Wilson was open over the middle. It's not wide open but it's NFL open, and it was single coverage wheras claypool was double covered. He makes a good throw there and the corner was going to have to make a great play to break it up or run through the reciever maybe pick up a flag.

    But he never even looked at wilson, he was locked in on claypool and throwing to a spot the whole time, the safety read him all the way and picked it off.
     
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  5. Springveldt

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    I guess your definition of open and mine are different. The CB has his hand on Wilson't back, that's not open. That's looking for an excuse to bash the QB.
     
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  6. hitman8

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    On that type of route, that is open, the reciever can body the defender out to make the catch, and it was certainly more open than claypool who was double covered.

    He did the same thing on the previous play when he locked in on tyreek and Hung him out to dry and got him injured. Threw into triple coverage when he had a couple of guys open underneath.

    That's why Tyreek was not out there on that last play.
     
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  7. StaleTacos

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    Not to mention, that screenshot was bad. The ball was already out of Tua's hand at that point and Wilson was already slowing down.
     
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  8. Springveldt

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  9. Tuanon4Life

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    I was just imagining Tua throwing two ints in the end zone and fumbling the ball away at midfield. Then I imagine having a chance to get some points before the half but he throws short of the goal line and time expires. I might actually think he sucks if he did all that.
     
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  10. Striking

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    This. Claypool, Chosen etc aren't any good and shouldn't be on the field. We need Waddle back badly.
     
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  11. dolphin25

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    a good ball is a TD there. I think is arm is injured or tired or both.
     
  12. dolphin25

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    how about 450 yards of offense accounted for 2 TD's?
     
  13. dolphin25

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    so, it is back to Tua us only good when he has great weapons?
     
  14. dolphin25

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    Isnt it open at the 29? I'd call that open with a good throw.
     
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  15. dolphin25

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    That is the area (on both sides) Warner said that if you take that away Tua and the Dolphins offense is done.
     
  16. Two Tacos

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    It's a pass that he has made over and over this year. Sometimes throws are just bad, but he did have a throwing shoulder injury going into last week. Tua has just been so good at throwing deep this year that the pass really stands out. I sure hope that if it was the shoulder another week is enough time to get back to normal. Going to need to score a bunch to have a chance I think.
     
  17. The_Dark_Knight

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    Some of you need to scroll back and watch that video I posted. Only a simpleton points his finger at 1 thing or person and says “That’s/He’s the problem”.

    Was Tua a problem with the loss against Buffalo? Yes, but he was not THE problem!

    Was McDaniel a problem with the loss against Buffalo? Yes, but he wasn’t THE problem, although consider this…

    Going into the half, we were leading 14-7. We had thrown the ball 16 times, we had 16 rushes. Achane and Wilson both were averaging over 5 yards per carry.

    Second half? Wanna guess how many times we ran the ball? Three!! 1…2…3!! That’s it! And you can’t say we were having to play from behind because we were still leading 14-7 going into the 4th. That I lay at McDaniel’s feet. We completely abandoned the run and the 3 times we did try, it was that fake pitch one way and back the other. Buffalo had adjusted to that. We had completely abandoned the run, to possess the ball and keep the Bills offense on the sideline. Can’t blame Tua for that. That’s on McDaniel.

    Hopefully this is another lesson learned for the young coach. We hadn’t lost 2 games in a row all season. We certainly shouldn’t lose 3 in a row but then again this is going to be the coldest game these Dolphins have seen in many years.

    Need to get back to the basics and pound the ball. With our defense decimated by injuries and playing in arrowhead, the best defense against the Chiefs is going to be a good offense.
     
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  18. Springveldt

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    The Chiefs defence is outstanding against the pass but it's actually pretty poor against the run. To have any chance Miami is going to have to run the ball well and McDaniel is going to have to stop calling those boom or bust pitches on 1st down that either go for 12 yards or leave us in a 2nd and 14.

    The offence has to win this game. It needs to control the clock to keep Mahomes off the field as the Miami defence has no shot at containing him, bad WR's and all.
     
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  19. Tuanon4Life

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    If Tua played like Josh Allen on Sunday and we won the narrative would be Tua sucks and the defense bailed him out and you know it.
     
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  20. Striking

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    No it's back to having players who can run routes correctly and create separation
     
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  21. Finatik

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    All Tua has to do is read the defense, throw the ball, run out and catch it and it would be all good.
     
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  22. Tuanon4Life

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    Maybe he should draw the routes on his hand in the huddle so Claypool knows what to do. It worked great playing two hand touch when we were kids.
     
  23. Two Tacos

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    I don't think he had a throwing lane for Wilson. I don't think it's a pick with a proper route by Claypool, but I think the far better decision was a throw away. Stop the clock and have time to get set for 4th down with a good play call.
     
  24. StaleTacos

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    He absolutely had a throwing lane for Wilson. The defender was behind him and he was running open with no one else around him.

    Throwing deep and to the sidelines will always be a bad look for Tua.
     
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  25. dolphin25

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    it is very important for a QB to throw to the open receiver, however, it is much easier to throw into double coverage and hope for the best
     
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  26. dolphin25

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    We basically have no linebackers and 2 backup ends.
     
  27. dolphin25

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    Too bad Tua did not play like Josh Allen.
     
  28. Springveldt

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    Seems like the coach may have thought differently than it was a "throw into double coverage and hope for the best".

     
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  29. dolphin25

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    I'm sure coach was hoping for a different outcome, but isn't it odd how often that play is called and how the other team knows that is where they like to go?
     
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  30. Tuanon4Life

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    If Tua played like Josh Allen we would have been shut out.
     
  31. resnor

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    Omar Kelly is a buffoon.
     
  32. texanphinatic

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    Too bad he only turned the ball over twice instead of 4 times?

    Does that negate what he said?

    I mean, that last throw could have been a bad decision, but it also looks like Claypool may have jacked it up. Let's be real, dude was a bum in Pitt and a bum in Chicago. We took a late round flyer on the frame and raw physical status, but he doesn't seem to have really improved his game or gotten the message.

    I am 100% looking at revamping the WR corps behind Tyreek and Waddle. Not a single guy has been able to step up.
     
  33. resnor

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    I'm just saying, Omar Kelly is a buffoon, and if he is right, it's not because he knows "what everything means." Lol

    I'm more inclined to not believe it since he is so proud of his discovering it.
     
  34. hitman8

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    Even if Claypool runs the perfect route there, the safety was all over it and it was double covered. Tua is throwing to a predetermined spot ignoring coverage. He did the same thing on the previous play and got Tyreek injured because Rapp was all over that one as well. He makes up his mind pre snap where he is going with the ball and throws it despite it being double or tripple covered, and there being other open guys underneath or over the middle being single covered.
     
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  35. Springveldt

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    Totally agree but even he can spot if a player is on the scout team or not.
     
  36. Tuanon4Life

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    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/bills-fan-killed-shooting-outside-dolphins-stadium-game-police-say

    I'm sure many of you already heard about this. I used to go to NE and NY for the Pats and Jets games every year but stopped going about five years ago. Believe it or not the NE fans were getting worse than Jet fans. Fans are getting way too aggressive in recent years. I guess it's a product of today's society. After going to my first game Miami this year I'm going to make it a priority to make it down for one game a year. It's just not worth it anymore going to road games.
     
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  37. dolphin25

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    Led game winning drive.... but, I guess that is over rated/
     
  38. dolphin25

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    I am a Kelly fan. People don't often like his bluntness, but he is often not wrong.
     
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  39. dolphin25

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    Allen had 2 TD's 60 yards of rushing and accounted for 450 plus yards of offense, I seriously doubt the Dolphins would have been shut out
     
  40. dolphin25

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    Can I give this 2 thumbs up?
     

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