Week 16 - Baltimore vs Miami

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  1. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Baltimore is just a better overall team. No shame in losing this. Hopefully we can make it competitive in the 2nd half. Frustrating to be another year away, AGAIN, but at least they’ve made strides this season
     
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  2. dolphin25

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    First time this year I've felt the other team was just better.
     
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  3. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yup, played and coached. In your 2 minute drill / rush offense the team knows those calls, that's a routine playcall in that situation for all of them. Notice how the D had no issues with their "rushed" playcall as well? The simple fact of the matter is you're trying to score and use every second you can to do so. "Rushing" a playcall is very routine in those types of situations. The simple fact of the matter again is the QB didn't do his job. That's on HIM, not the decision to run a play there. Just like it would be on him if that play call is made with 25 seconds to kill. Rushing it impacts nothing because once you snap the ball you aren't being rushed. Do your job, read the defense, look off the defender, then throw. He failed in every aspect of the play post snap. That's why you have an INT not because they tried to squeeze in another play.
     
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  4. dolphin25

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    right, only thing i wonder is how does this team get better? we are scheduled to be 40 million over cap next year already.
     
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  5. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Uh...why would Smith have a problem? The DEFENSE is why Tua is in the high pressure situation. Smith want in a high pressure situation. They are controlling the game.

    Your argument with me is simply wrong.
     
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  6. Berezo

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    Every year this roster isn’t healthy. Big time players always missing. Baltimore just looks like they are either better coached or have more roster depth.
     
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  7. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yup, they rushed it. Big deal. Everyone knew their jobs. The QB made a poor play that has NOTHING to do with rushing it.

    Once you can accept the reality of the situation you'll have a clue. Thanks for reminding me why everyone hangs out in the club chats.

    Blaming the coach for a piss poor effort post snap from the QB. You can't make this **** up.
     
  8. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Right so then you understand that rushing a play when you're up 50 and in cruise control is very different than when you're losing, and your last however many drives have been awful, with interceptions and sacks and ****.

    Just cause in one situation the rushing didn't affect, didn't mean it didn't affect in this situation. I mean, maybe your being attic and arguing that the rushing isn't the problem, it's the other factors...that's fine. But that's simply half empty vs half full.
     
  9. Berezo

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    They won’t be. They created a tiny tiny window and this year was it. Biggest question is if we pay Tua and how much?
     
  10. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Nope. It's not. D was rushed into a call just like we were. That is a FACT. IT didn't affect them, but it did affect us.

    Why?

    Because the QB didn't do his ****ing job post snap on the playcall.

    It has NOTHING to do with rushing to the line. It has EVERYTHING to do with the QB making a poor play. It's really that simple unless you just don't want to admit you're wrong. The play was called. Everyone lined up and knew what they were supposed to do. The ball is snapped, the QB makes poor decisions and a poor throw. THAT is what gives you the end result of an INT, not the fact they rushed the playcall. Unbelievable this has to be explained.
     
  11. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve wondered the same thing. Wonder if we move on from Baker, Ogbah, Howard, Armstead. We have all of our picks. We still have a young core of players. Players getting better in the system.
     
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  12. JJ_79

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    With this game likely over, unless another unbelievable comeback, for me this team has to win next week and one playoff game to say that they really made strides this season.
     
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  13. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    We get it. You blame Tua. You're beating a dead horse.
     
  14. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yes you're right, of course. I dunt know that anyone used the specific word "trash," I just summarized what I thought I remembered hearing.

    I know for a fact that were many saying that Jackson was not better than Tua and they didn't want us to get him.
     
  15. Berezo

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    I agree. We have to win a playoff game or there was literally no difference other than Tua stayed healthy.
     
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  16. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    If Tyreek doesn’t drop the easy TD;
    +4 Miami

    If Tua doesn’t throw the 2 minute drill INT;
    -7 Baltimore

    A couple defining plays have made a big difference.

    I would say Miami has been ‘in this game’ and are still in this game. It’s not like they are getting boat raced IMO.
     
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  17. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    You're being obtuse.

    You're claim is that the pressure on that part was as great on the Ravens defense as it was in the Dolphins offense.

    GFTO with that **** dude. That's absolute ****.
     
  18. brandon27

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    None of that ****ing matters!! What matters is what happened post snap. The QB didn't look off a defender, the QB stared down the WR which allowed Smith to undercut it. Watch the high angle replay for **** sake. IT's plain as day to see what the problem was. It would have been a problem even if they had 25 seconds on the play clock to stand around. Why? Because the QB didn't do his job on the play. He stared down the WR from the snap, Smith read him like a book and undercut the route. Tua had no clue because he didn't make an effort to keep the defense honest. He made a poor decision and a poor throw. THAT is why you have an INT, not because of a playcall being rushed or a high pressure situation. That's a routine play whether you like it or not.

    To blame that INT on a rushed playcall is just pure stupidity. It's 110% on the QB. Rushed getting to the line or not doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is what he did, and didn't do once he went to execute the play. That's where the play failed. Not because it was called.
     
  19. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    The offense was trash other than the first drive.
     
  20. Berezo

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    It’s about to be 35-13, this defense absolutely has been cooked. They can’t stop anything today.
     
  21. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ill gladly GTFO.. I'll go back to the club with everyone else hiding from this nonsense. You kids have fun now.
     
  22. Dan S

    Dan S Phins up!

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    Punched in the mouth for 30 minutes, time to respond.
     
  23. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    I'm sitting here watching the game right now and my feelings haven't changed at all. I wouldn't trade Tua for Lamar. Yes Lamar is having an MVP season. Yes Lamar is outplaying Tua so far today. Let's see how things play out the rest of the year. This isn't the Super Bowl.
     
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  24. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I'M NOT BLAMING THE INTERCEPTION IN IT.

    I'm saying IT CONTRIBUTED to the interception. Does Tua USUALLY state down his receivers and telegraph his passes? No?

    Then why the **** did he do it then? It's absolutely ****ing asinine that your are going to continue to argue that rushing plays doesn't make them harder. If it didn't, everyone would run no huddle sky the time. It's basic human behavior. When things are going wrong, performance tends to drop, and if your rushed, performance tends to drop even more.

    You can have the last word, even though you're wrong.
     
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  25. mlb1399

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    If it wasn’t already ugly, it just got there
     
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  26. Dan S

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    And that's not how you do it.
     
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  27. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    Looks like we're in the road to start the playoffs.
     
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  28. resnor

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    That's fair.

    But if you offered me Jackson for Tua straight up? I'd probably do it.
     
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  29. Dorfdad

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    The team is just not going to win the Super Bowl. Hell we probably don't win the division now. Baltimore is just a better team at this point. Unless we have some magically second half. Buffalo is winning and they are going to come to Miami Super motivated and on a resurgence. Our only chance of winning the division is to root for New England to win.

    going to get hate here but I think our season is one and done as a wildcard, and to me that a complete failure as a season. We had so many chances to win the division and choked. Were a good team, but were not going win it all this year, and we have major contract issues starting next year
     
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  30. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    K bye

    Enjoy your echo chamber
     
  31. Serpico Jones

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    Just a complete embarrassment. This game could have big negative repercussions down the road.
     
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  32. brandon27

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    I'm not actually, but whatever makes you feel better Res. Have fun playing with yourselves out here grasping at straws
     
  33. JJ_79

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    Hope that‘s just for this game…
     
  34. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yuuuuuuuup.

    I've brought the contract stuff up before, everyone wants to ignore it.
     
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  35. Serpico Jones

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    Don’t go anywhere, dude. We need you on here.
     
  36. mlb1399

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    Never envisioned the first game were all of our secondary is healthy and we have this many blown assignments in coverage.
     
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  37. resnor

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    Your argument isn't even remotely logical, Brandon.

    Take a step back and actually think about what you are arguing.

    And your haven't even once refuted what evidence I'm saying, other than just that I'm wrong.
     
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  38. Fishhead

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    What was the D doing on that play?
     
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  39. JJ_79

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    Same as against the Bills, we‘re getting punched in the nose and don’t have an answer and are overwhelmed.
     
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  40. resnor

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    And I wasn't literally telling him to stop posting in here. GTFO just meant I didn't agree with his stance.
     

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