I was wrong about the Jets and here to eat some crow

True, but it takes a total team to win a SB or else we would have seen Marino with a handful of rings.

I guess my point is, Brady showed that it wasn't BB. He is a huge reason for his team's successes. I don't think he's the GOAT, but I can't think of anyone else who worked harder than that guy.

(Writing that last part made me sick to my stomach. lol)

 

The biggest reason Brady won so much in NE is because he took less money.

 

That's a great point. But that also lends credence to him being a great QB. He was smart enough to realize that putting all your money into one player hampers the team. Not many players are willing to do that.

Hell, the guy sacrificed his own wife and kids to play. lol...Not really funny, and kind of sad for his family and I wouldn't expect any player to do that for this game, but he did.

 

Trolls love to lurk and then only post when they can create arguing. They are also cowards when they don't show up to eat their crow.

 

I disliked him before the breakup, but I lost all respect for the guy for abandoning his family to seek football glory. Worst move he ever made and easily the most selfish.

Think about it, he traded his wife and kids for a ring in Tampa to show us he was better than Belichek. He will regret that decision.

 

I agree 100%. He's not a good human being. I mean, I don't know him personally, of course, but he cheated on his pregnant girlfriend that was carrying his first child, and then abandoned his wife and kids from the second woman.

 

Keep in mind, before I say what I'm about to say, as a Dolphins fan I despise everything there is about Tom Brady and have often wished him a slow painful gonorrhea infested death. That being said as a Dolphins fan!!

But from a human being and alpha male point of view, didn't Giselle KNOW what she was marrying, or at least SHOULD have known? Should Brady have evolved from what he was into a man that thought of more than football as his life? Sure he probably should have, but you can't truly fault him for being WHAT he was. He was a professional football player. It's not like he was married to her and then CHOSE to go into that profession.

It's kind of the same thing being in the military. Women who marry soldiers often seem to forget WHAT they are marrying, which is why the divorce rate in the military is often so high.

God, I can't believe I just defended Tom Brady.

 

I can't see the comparisons between an NFL football players wife and military wife. The NFL player isn't in jeopardy of going to jail if he decides to spends more time with his family. Sure, a spouse should support their loved one and sacrifice when needed, but expecting a woman to forgo her entire career and life while her husband plays a game, when they are already set for life moneywise, isn't reasonable. Brady, it seems, made no concessions for his family when it came to football. It sounds like he made promises and broke them, kept her waiting in the wings with promises of retiring and how they would be more of a family, then spat in her face and kept playing past his prime. That's called being selfish.

 

Here's the thing though- Brady was essentially the trophy wife since Giselle was the bread winner of the family. As popular as Brady is (in New England), she's much more popular throughout the world. She's the first billionaire model...billionaire!

The thing was, he said about 8 years ago that he'd retire. He promised his wife and New England grabbed Jimmy G as his successor. Everything was in place and when Brady refused to retire, Belicheat tried to force his hand and Brady convinced Kraft to trade Jimmy G away. So Brady betrayed his coach as well and his team...only to abandon them for Tampa.

Meanwhile, he kept telling his wife "one more year, one more year" while her and the kids patiently waited. She finally saw him for what he is.

The QB conundrum NE has been in for 4-5 years, that's 100% on Brady and his selfishness. I guess we should like him for that but I just can't do it, I hate the guy and everything he stands for. He's betrayed everyone closest to him and I just can't respect someone like that.

 

Probably still in mourning over his team getting shut out.

 

If he didn’t play for the Patriots, I would be fine with him. When it comes to his personal life, most of us (if not all) here don’t know what kind of life those people are living and when one has never experienced being a celebrity, no one knows how they‘d respond being in that situation. When it comes to his retirement, I could imagine that it’s hard for one to walk away from something you really love doing and will never be able to do again, especially when you’re good at doing it.

 

Greatness often requires huge amounts of sacrifice, and also prioritizing what you want to be great at over everything else. So for me Brady’s willingness to do what it takes to be the greatest ever is something I respect.

 

It's one thing to keep working at a job you love that takes you away from your family when your family needs to eat, but this isn't the case. He basically threw his family in the trash to play football when he didn't need to. I mean, if football is the most important thing in your life, and you know it's a job that's going to not allow you to be a good husband and father, then don't get married and have kids. When I was in the Marine Corps I never married because I knew I couldn't support a wife with that lifestyle. My job was dangerous and kept me away from home a lot. When I was medically retired, I got married. Then, I loved working as a PA in the Cath Lab. I made great money, but I had to work in order to support my wife and kids. When that lifestyle with call, (being gone most holidays on call, missing birthdays, special occasions, etc) was affecting my wife and kids I made a change. Not because I wanted to, again I loved it, but because I will always put my wife and kids over myself. Now, I'm lucky in that I make even more money, still love what I'm doing, am home 99% of most evenings, never miss a holiday or birthday, and can be around way more, but it's not a change I would have made if I were single. Brady could have gone on to other things, been around football, and made even more money, but he decided to be selfish. I can't respect that. He wasn't curing cancer or anything...he was playing a game.

 

He "didn't need to" play football is seeing things from your perspective. If your goal is to be the greatest player ever, what he did is exactly what he needed to do. Without that SB in Tampa, he's be up there among the greatest, but people would keep crediting Belichick as much as Brady. With that Tampa SB and Belichick's subsequent average W/L record, he showed who was really responsible. So seen from the perspective of someone who wants to be the greatest, it was necessary.

I agree it's just sports and nothing really important in the grand scheme of things, but the mentality is what I'm referring to irrespective of value to society (football can go away and it wouldn't matter for human society).

 

I don't think cutting off your leg to win a Gold Medal in the Special Olympics is a need in anyone's perspective. My bet is if you were to ask any Special Olympic gold medalist if they'd rather have their leg or a gold medal 100% would pick their leg.

 

Probably true, but that's not what we're talking about here. Nothing serious happened to Brady's family as far as I can tell, and certainly not compared to many other families that have so much fewer resources.

 

Well, ask any kid how they feel about their parents divorcing and I'd bet, sans any abuse going on, that the kid considers it serious and wishes it didn't happen. In this case, and obviously we can't know for sure, Brady's wife seemed to be all in for him and gave up a lot for a long time to make him happy only to have him sh!t on her at the end. I'm sure she thinks it's serious.

 

I was happy when my parents divorced lol. They constantly fought.

And yes I'm sure Gisele thought it was serious. Doesn't mean she and her kids are worse off because of it though. Depends on the situation, and of course all that wealth makes it easier.

 

lol...Well, I can assume, and because what else would they fight about, they mainly argued over him being selfish.

 

Recall that even after the divorce Giselle and Tom were still taking vacations together with the kids. It wasn't a hard feelings divorce as much as a mutual agreement.

 

I don't remember this. I do remember, however, Brady on vacation with another woman shortly after their divorce and Giselle on vacation with her (I think) personal trainer and the kids right after the divorce. lol

 

I don't follow the Access Hollywood type programs but I seem to recall that Brady took the kids on a Mediterranean private yacht cruise one winter and that Giselle joined them for part of the trip. I could be wrong but, what's the chances of that?

 

Bless you for your service. I don't have the patience and never will. I have zero tolerance for belligerent stupidity. Thank you and the other MODS for doing the unappreciated dirty work of trying to maintain civil discourse in todays environment.