Interesting interview with Bess

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  1. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if any of you watch the All Dolphins Podcasts on Utube, but they do a really good job and have something almost daily.
     
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  2. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for sharing this! He's one of my all time favorites players for us. My son was born in 09...His middle name is Davone. So yeah...Bess was my favorite Dolphin from the era. I hate that we traded him. Glad he's still doing his thing. What a cool person.
     
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  3. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    That is awesome. I was a big Bess fan too. Glad to hear he has put things back together. I like those podcasts and some of the insight they give into Dolphin locker room.
     
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  4. KeyFin

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    I wish we knew what happened to him after the trade and those few seasons in....Cleveland? Cinci? I can't remember, they wore orange though. He was cut from the team and rumors surfaced that he had some pretty stiff mental health stuff going on. One teammate said he was into witchcraft or something like that. I never did hear what actually happened though.
     
  5. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Did you listen to the interview?
     
  6. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I thought I did- maybe I got busy and never got back to it though. Does he go into that stuff?
     
  7. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    He pretty much covers it all. Not in exact specific detail, but it is all discussed.
     
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  8. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I didn't listen then. I will check it out this afternoon...thanks!
     
  9. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    He had a mental breakdown is what happened. Anyone that's ever had one will try anything to get out of it and be free from it. I don't remember hearing about witchcraft, but if he was practicing that, it was probably because he was desperate to feel normal again. The only thing he said he was doing was smoking a lot of marijuana. Whether weed is bad is purely subjective in my opinion. Some like it and consider it medicine, others think it's evil and bad.
     
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  10. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Lots of research is starting to show the high potency levels of weed now is showing major physiological effects on teen age brains. The connection between depression and suicides and the high concentrated pens, daps and weed usage is becoming apparent. It never affected me like that, but now I’m feeling very despondent over this.
     
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  11. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Like most things they affect people differently. I'm in the hey don't try it boat and you don't have to deal with the bad.
     
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  12. dolphin25

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    Isn't it more powerful now? not to mention the things they mix in with it that are taking a lot of lives. No wins in illegal drugs.
     
  13. KeyFin

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    My brother partakes in all the new stuff and yes, it is definitely more powerful. If he brings some weed inside, in a sealed Ziplock bag, you can smell it in the house for a couple of hours. And the liquid stuff is concentrated up to 99% THC, so it's way more powerful.

    I'm with you- I want nothing to do with it (legal or not).

    With that said, I will occasionally smoke a little Delta-8 if I get back spasms. I don't get high from it but my body instantly relaxes and I feel great. I will use that as medicine when I absolutely have to.
     
  14. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    That's where I'm at. Moderate use is all I'm looking for. I have kids to look out for. Being a full time stoner just isn't in the cards for me anymore. Those days were fun, but they've been over since 2001.
     
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  15. KeyFin

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    Awesome interview- thanks for telling me to go back to it! I must have listened to the first minute earlier and then got busy with work. He hit everything I was curious about. TY!
     
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  16. dolphin25

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    Glad you went back. I really enjoyed him being on their podcast.
     
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  17. Puka-head

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    To each their own. I take my first few hits within minutes of waking up, have for decades, and then every 2-4 hrs thru the work day. After dark gets a little heavier. Only reason I'm still alive so...
    But yes, Potency has gotten more consistent and readily available. Options for consumption continue to expand but consistency is there thru the process also. Testing confirms what it is so ya know b4 ya go.
    Marijuana has been medicine and a mostly non harmful drug for centuries. It's certainly less dangerous than alchohol or tobacco. Open markets, regulated trade and following the science is the way to end the drug problem in the US
     
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  18. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Yessir, can't argue with any of that. I view it the same, I just can't indulge like I used to. I'm in Tennessee where it's still not legal due to their bronze aged belief system, but they sell this Delta8/9 stuff everywhere. In Gatlinburg they're growing it in the windows of shops. My question has been is that stuff safe as an alternative to the real deal I get when I go to Cali and get it?
     
  19. KeyFin

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    I'm actually friends with one of the inventors of Delta-8 and it's a pretty cool story. Delta-8 is weed, Delta-9 is weed, etc, but it's modified to not test as THC...there's one molecule difference and that makes it legal. However, when you smoke it, you'll still test positive for weed because it's weed, LOL.

    The industry created it to sell to mass-markets while bypassing the FDA. It has not been deemed "legal", it's actually the exact opposite because they haven't been able to prove why it should be illegal yet. That's probably coming but maybe not before weed is legalized nationally, which is why there's no rush to make an entire new classification ban. Even if they did, my friend says that they already have dozens of "legal" new strains lined up that aren't THC and not Delta-8, 9, etc.

    This is the weed industry gaming the system, using their own laws and slow bureaucracy against them. And it's had some great consequences as well, since many states are backing off weed arrests in small quantities. That's because people are getting caught and saying, "Oh, this is Delta-8." And the states don't have testing that can tell the difference, it would cost tens of millions of dollars per state to get there and once they do, the weed industry is just going to change another molecule or two to invent the next thing states can't test for.

    I might not be conveying this properly to give the full scope of the awesomeness, but I think it's an amazing story that needs to be told someday in theaters or a book.
     
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  20. Puka-head

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    You want to read a great book about the history of Cannabis and prohibition in the US read "The Emporer Has No Clothes" By Jack Herer.
     
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  21. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Actually, I think you simplified this for me. I appreciate it man. It makes a lot more sense now. I was thinking something totally different.
     
  22. KeyFin

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    Yeah, a lot of people think it's synthetic weed made from scratch- but that makes no sense since it would be way more expensive to make and definitely get banned quickly as people had side effects. This is just good old fashioned weed that's technically not weed.
     
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  23. danmarino

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    Weed, for some, is a life saving medicine. For others it's a curse. Overall, however, it's way less dangerous than nearly all of the "legal" medicines out there, including OTC meds. Sure, there can be side effects, like with all medicines, but they are typically more mild and less dangerous.

    With weed, and like nearly anything else, whether it be alcohol, gambling, food, video games, TV, etc. etc...you can indulge too much and it can become unhealthy. If a person has a predisposition for addictive behavior or has certain mental illnesses weed can do more harm than good, but that's the case with just about any medicine. Someone mentioned weed and the immature brain, well, there's great evidence to suggest that TV's, processed foods, iPads/cell phones and the like will do more harm than weed ever will. Of course if a 13 yr old is getting high all day everyday that's not good.

    I rarely drink, but I do on occasion. I've smoked weed maybe a few dozen times in my life (including edibles and tinctures). I'm extremely lucky in that the only addiction I seem to have is with an historically bad football team. lol I do love the feeling of a nice high and I sleep really well.

    My parents and siblings all are, or have been, addicted to drugs. When I was 5 years old I remember walking in on my parents and aunt shooting up heroin. My mom was a pill head and my dad was drunk everyday my entire childhood. They both smoked weed everyday, also. Weed, pills, crack, alcohol, heroin, meth, and a number of other drugs ruined my younger brother's life. He's 48 years old and homeless half the time. I've paid his rent, bought him a car, bailed him out numerous times. I believe if he had just stuck to weed he'd be far better off than he is now, but his addictive personality trait (inherited from my parents, I'm sure) has been his downfall. However, even with just weed he'd be worse off than if he just stopped everything. That's due to his addiction problem.


    My point is, most drugs should be legal, but it's up to the individual to know if it's good for them or not and whether or not they are abusing it. Abuse means something different for everyone. I could probably smoke weed everyday for a month and just give it up. I'd have no long last effects. My brother, on the other hand, wouldn't be able to stop. I think drug laws are counter intuitive and do more harm than good.

    Not sure where I'm going with this rant, lol, but here it is.
     
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  24. dolphin25

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    Interesting view you think drugs should be legal based on your personal experiences. Has there ever been a person that said I'm going to get addicted to this, just can't wait? I'm betting no person has ever thought I know I will get addicted, but I'm going to do it anyway. Do you think brother would be in a better place if he had not done any drugs at all?

    Have many friends and classmates that have died from alcohol abuse. I'm thinking none of them thought they would ever become alcoholics.
     
  25. KeyFin

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    I couldn't agree more.
     
  26. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    My stance and support of marijuana definitely differs from most other drugs. Heroin has ruined my little brothers life. He's overdosed twice but pulled through only to go out and do it again. THAT is how powerful the addiction is for him. I'm also not a fan of over indulging on alcohol as I think it turns people into first class jerks. Pain meds, barbiturates, amphetamines, opiates...Those are problems I don't want to have. They are also far more addictive and powerful than some marijuana. The worst part is that they all come in legal forms for use which is absurd to me. But because oxycodone is legal, it's ok to use while marijuana use here in Tennessee where I live is considered bad because it's the "devil's lettuce."
    Now one thing I won't argue about is if weed is a gateway drug. It most definitely can be if you have problems with addiction. I mean that's how it started with my brother. He decided to take it to another level and never came back from it.
     
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  27. KeyFin

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    Question- if you knew a friend or classmate was addicted to drugs, which would be better?

    1) The buy it from a street dealer and hope that it's not laced with too much fentanyl or other deadly substances
    2) They buy it from a store, for far less money, and know that their heroin is actually heroin

    Neither is a "good option" since we want to believe that if we could just eliminate drugs, there would be no drug addicts. That's a war we've been losing for decades though and it will not change. If drugs were legal and regulated at an affordable price, there's a chance we'd see all the other crime associated with addiction decrease and overdoses would decrease as well. That's the theory anyway.

    There have been a few countries that have legalized everything, but I haven't studied enough to be able to say if it's the right move or not. I do know that they reported decreased crime rates and drug related deaths...but I'm not sure if that would stand long-term. The idea that other countries pitch is that the revenue from drugs can be put back into drug prevention training and rehabilitation services, while also reducing the need for police officers, courtrooms, and jails for drug-related stuff. It's definitely a big win for the economy.
     
  28. dolphin25

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    Better not to get addicted in the first place. Best not to try it in the first place. There really are no wins.

    Neither of your suggestions fixes the issue. If drugs were regulated and legal you would see an increase in their usage, which would make the entire thing much worse. Making them legal in no way stops the addiction nor the need to buy drugs, thus crime in no way should decrease. Unless of course they claim that since it is now legal, the crime of buying decreases. I would argue crime would increase because you now are making it easier for people to become addicted and commit violent crimes to get the money they need.
     
  29. KeyFin

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    Yeah, I'm not really sure. Mexico legalized everything and I believe Amsterdam? A few European countries have tried it as well and claim it's a successful project. Who knows though.
     
  30. Finatik

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    Take a look at Seattle. The pretty much legalized everything and are regretting it. May try to re-criminalize it. I think if you leave some people to their own devices they will go out of bounds. Some people just need structure.
     
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