Tua...''He's the greatest prospect ever''

I agree unless the person admits that the QB is an elite QB in that system, and that the great majority of QBs wouldn't be capable of playing elite in that system. Then it's not a negative. But if the claim is somehow that you can just replace the QB with a bunch of others and get similar production, well then I've got an issue with it (assuming the QB in question is putting up elite stats).

 

Didn't a reporter make that suggestion to McDaniel in yesterday's media session? Coach was restrained in telling him that no system works without everybody who's playing in it being capable of doing what's required to succeed. It's ludicrous to suggest that since Tua's putting up monstrous advanced metric stats, then any QB could be just as good (and presumably, better QBs could be even better).

This idiocy of the question is that it's basically saying McDaniel is the best coach ever to squeeze historically great stats out of a team with a mediocre QB. Personally, I would have replied "Not even going to address that. Who has a serious question?" and kept it moving.

 

This totally disregards two of Tuas strengths; his ability to process quickly and his footwork both of which are essential to making this offense work. While any of those guys are capable of hitting Waddle and Hill downfield, I think we'd all be *****ing about the OL not being upgraded if they were behind center.

 

They had only (2) 3 and outs to begin that game, hardly an abnormal thing for a normal team. But it feels different when it happens to us. Going down 14-0 early was more on the defense than the offense.

 

Here’s my take on the whole “system” argument. If it was JUST the system, then ANY quarterback would be able to step right in and have success.

But seeing how Teddy Bridgewater (who was a starting quarterback) and Skylar Thompson had losing records, it can’t be JUST the system. Even Mike White threw a pick 6 last week in “the system”.

It’s a symbiotic relationship. Does the head coach implement a “system”? Of corse he does. EVERY coach has THEIR system. That’s why they were hired to begin with. But every coach has to have players that can execute THEIR system.

McDaniels system requires a quarterback that has pin point accuracy, quick decision making process and able to process the defensive scheme. That’s what we have in Tua.

McDaniels system requires receivers with speed and the discipline to run precision routes. That’s what we have in Hill and Waddle.

Take any one of those 3 away and the Dolphins wouldn’t have the historical success they’re having this season.

 

This is exactly what the reporter said to McDaniel. Although I appreciate his answer of "who the F cares?", he should have said:

"You're an idiot. There are not tons and tons of QBs that can excel to this level in this system."

Frankly, people are lazy and they are making lazy assessments. Jimmy G. is the guy that is regularly pointed at to show that the system makes the QB. People point to his 102 passer rating in 2019. They ignore the fact that his average intended air yards was tied for the second lowest in the league. His air yards to the sticks was 2nd lowest in the league. His aggressiveness % was middle of the pack. His YAC per completion was #1 in the league. His pressure % was 12th lowest.

Let's compare Tua to Jimmy last season:

Passer rating: Tua - 105.5, Jimmy - 103. (this is where most people stop the comparison)

YPC: Tua - 13.7, Jimmy - 11.8

Air YPC: Tua - 8.8, Jimmy - 4.8. (Here we see the difference. Tua gets the bulk of his yards from the depth of his throws.)

YAC PC: Tua - 4.9, Jimmy 7.0. (Jimmy gets the bulk of his yards from YAC.)

Air yards to the sticks: Tua - 0.7 (tied for 3rd best), Jimmy - -2.1 (tied for 4th worst) (Again Jimmy is relying the receivers to get the 1st down yardage, while Tua is throwing past the sticks.)

They are not just different once you dig in, they are on opposite ends of the rankings. Tua was #1 in air yards per completion, Jimmy was #1 in YAC per completion.

 

How about we dig even a little deeper? This season Jimmy G is 4th in air yards per completion, so he is throwing the ball farther down field. Take a guess what has happened to his passer rating? It has dropped by 20 points to 82.6.

 

And Tua is doing the high air yards while still having one of the quickest releases.

IMO, not too many quarterbacks in the NFL can do that.

 

You have to go way down (but not to the bottom) to find #1 on this list:

 

I’m curious…I have to assume this is not actual completion rate. Tua’s doesn’t have a 96.7% completion rate.

Is this chart saying that the ball was RIGHT THERE for the receiver to catch, whether he caught it or not?

 

I believe it refers to the number of routes that are considered to be open, which most are decidedly not. There has to be a definition for how it is used per the comparison.

 

I believe it's saying that when the receiver is open, Tua only misses the receiver 3.3% of the time. It's not the competition rate, it's that he's putting the ball where it needs to be.

 

Still leads the NFL in most major passing categories.

 

I didn't think Tua was terrible in the Eagles game. Our O Line was getting destroyed all night long. He made a bad decision on the INT late in the game, but one could argue that Mostert was interfered with. For the most part, though, I thought he did the best any QB could have done in that situation. Time of possession went Philly 36:43 Miami 23:17. They did a great job of keeping our offense off the field. They whooped us in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I don't care if you have Peyton Manning at Quarterback. When you get your *** kicked in the trenches, it's going to be a rough night. Given the circumstances I think Tua played fine. He wasn't amazing, but he never really had the chance to be in that game.

 

This is why I've advocated for years for a powerhouse offensive line. I know brad and I often "argue" over it...his "Dexter's Laboratory" causation/correlation computer citing stats left and right but..

When you're playing a PHYSICAL team...and the Eagles are, in order to win, you have to dominate the LOS. We lost that battle.

Granted, the one sided officiating had a significant effect on the game's outcome...SIGNIFICANT but our OL was being dominated the entire game.

 

It wasn't a bad decision, it was a bad throw off of his back foot.



https://i.ibb.co/ph5YMtg/Mostert.png

As you can see Mostert has the LB beat and if Waddle runs a post to the middle Mostert is wide open. A combination of a bad throw (which Mostert still had a chance to make a play on if the LB doesn't tackle him) and Waddle cutting to the back of the endzone dragging Slay over with him was what doomed the play.

If you watch a half second later, Mostert knows he has his man beat and is already looking back for the ball, I've no idea why Waddle is going over that way though. Without Waddle it's DPI on the 1 at worse or a TD if Mostert can fight through the interference.



https://i.ibb.co/XJVYNt2/mostert2.png

Tua made the absolute correct decision on the play and just didn't put enough into the throw. (cue the he hasn't got the arm crowd now...)

edit: so it appears I can't use imgur or imgbb to upload images? They work fine in the preview but fail when I post the message.

 

The weird thing about that play is that McD's was asked about the lack of spacing between Waddle and Mostert and his response made it sound like it was part of the play design.

 

I heard him say that but I think he is covering for Waddle.

 

He did say it was a play design they had been working on. I’m not sure what the goal is with the defenders seeing how they would be doubled up covering the receivers but then again, I’m not an offensive genius like McDaniel

 

Tua has to be it. All QB's who were good/great in a Dolphins uniform have one thing in common, their first Name only has three letters.
So first Bob, then Dan and now Tua, let the legend continue...

 

Of course Tua is short for Tuanigamanuolepola lol.

 

Don’t forget Jay…….twice……or Gus.....

 

Dan is short also…

 

Yep! Had we had our entire starting offensive line, maybe we win, maybe we don’t but there would have been a better chance for the offense to win the LOS.

 

Nice Highschool footage but I‘m happy he now plays like he plays. I don’t wanna see any of that Cam Newton, Tebow or whatever stuff on Sundays.

 

Does seem to show how much his speed and quickness was reduced by the hip injury. I wonder if he gets any more of it back.

 

I‘m fine with that but I don’t wanna see him running like he did in the beginning of the clip and I don’t wanna see him trucking people. I’m happy he plays a lot smarter now!

 

The head coach is much more important than you seem to be indicating.

 

He's the most likely of our guys to get a gold jacket. Especially since he won a ring in Kansas City.

 

Tua is so good that they are trying to change the analytics out of his favor now. All we heard for two years was Tua had no air yards, all he throws is 2 yard slants. Now he's the leader and this is happening.