Week 7 - Dolphins at Eagles

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  1. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    Defensive line at least showed flashes but they have zero room for error with that secondary
     
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  2. brandon27

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    I want to see McDaniel call out the NFL and it's officials this week in his press conferences. Show them we're not going to take this corrupt bull**** laying down. It's time to hold this league accountable for their BS and pure garbage officiating.

    Show the the Phillips sack that he somehow managed while being held. The facemask/DPI on Wilson, the "roughing the passer" on Wilkins, the ineligible man downfield on the Philly TD. There's an endless list of bull**** non-calls you can show from this game. No team in an NFL football game is perfectly free from penalties. It's insane to think that's even possible.

    Just air it all out in public and hold Godell and his corrupt crew of refs accountable for once in their lives. I'm sick of this ****.
     
  3. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    On to the next one, i fully expect Tua and McDaniels to bounce back next week.. we giving new england a 40 piece nugget.

    we had opportunities to win, i expected this to be tight and it was a 4 quarter game against the NFC champs. Still got 10 more games left to improve, get healthy and get to where we need to be for the postseason
     
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  4. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    In New England. Oh, wait I forgot I thought the Dolphins only beat bad teams. Now the Pats are good again.
     
  5. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    The whole hype of the "best offense ever" is going against them. All Tirico and Collinsworth could say is how Philly shut them down, shut them down, shut them down. And were happy about it.

    I feel like the media anointed them and want to take them down at the same time.
     
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  6. hitman8

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    I said they have a good defense, not that they are a good team. I don't see us beating them by 4 touchdowns as you claim. It's going to be a close game again.
     
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  7. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Ah well. I called the 17.
     
  8. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yup, that's all they do. Run with a headline... then depending on how the game goes dictates how the story goes. All while leaving out all of the context of what actually happened.

    That's why I want to see McDaniel throw those refs under the bus. Not one of them deserves to keep their job. Anyone that thought Philly played a penalty free game today needs an education on the rules of football and needs to get their eyes checked. This game was clearly decided before it started.
     
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  9. cbrad

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    NFL is a business, and a very profitable one at that. I think the biased reffing is deliberate, otherwise they would have done something about it by now. In fact, I think the NFL benefits from the occasional egregious call that swings games as long as it doesn't happen too often. Controversy sells! It certainly leads to more headlines. Also, there is a clear statistical bias towards home teams with penalties. There's no way that isn't deliberate either. So I think McD would only hurt himself and the Dolphins if he made a big issue out of the reffing, unless it's just a one-time thing — note how few teams complain!

    At least that's my cynical view. But it does make sense from a business perspective.
     
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  10. brandon27

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    It does.... until it doesn't.
     
  11. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    10th time in 103 year history of the league that one team had 10+ accepted penalties while the other team had zero called on them.
     
  12. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    The numbers haven't been updated this week, but coming into Sunday. Outside of the Bills who are ranked 6th best in passer rating against, the 2nd best team the Dolphins have faced are the Pats at 20th. They really haven't run into any legitimate passing defenses outside of Buffalo (Eagles 24th).
     
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  13. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Historical effort.
     
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  14. cbrad

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    And until today Tua outperformed expected passer rating (passer rating allowed thus far) in every case.

    LAC: 100.2 allowed, Tua puts up 110
    NE: 92.0 allowed, Tua puts up 92.2
    Denver: 117.8 allowed, Tua puts up 155.8
    Bills: 76.6 allowed, Tua puts up 92.8
    Giants: 94.5 allowed, Tua puts up 100.4
    Panthers: 96.3 allowed, Tua puts up 126.0
    Philly: 94.7 allowed, Tua puts up 87.5

    On average, Tua is putting up 13.2 passer rating points above passer rating allowed. That's pretty impressive even taking defensive passer rating into account.
     
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  15. Alan in England

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    I got the 31 points conceded correct. WRT to Tua unless he cuts out the silly mistakes I don't think he will ever be regarded as an elite QB
     
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  16. Fishhead

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    The return of Ramsey, Needham and Howard should dramatically help that situation.
     
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  17. Fishhead

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    With all the love for Jalen Hurts, I wonder how he does with 60% of his OL missing, especially against a top tier defensive line.
     
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  18. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I think that DT was purposedly doing that. Might as well if it is not going to be called.
     
  19. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I gave up being upset when i started seeing the calls being made against us and not against them.
     
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  20. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that was totally stupid. Just ridiculously stupid and disappointing. Take the 3 and be down one score.
     
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  21. dolphin25

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    Collingsworth was kinda hinting at it most of the night.
     
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  22. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    They will call some BS call when game is out of reach so they can claim they did call against the Dolphins
     
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  23. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    that is one reason i have the NFL access. I can live my life then watch the game in 1.5 hours later
     
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  24. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    It fits to their narrative.. the eagles and the chiefs are america’s team.. now they can say it in every eagles game this season how they shut down the best offense in the NFL.

    while also saying we have played a bunch of nobodies in dolphin broadcasts.. just braindead reporting.
     
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  25. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    They are double digit favorites.
     
  26. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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  27. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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  28. OwesOwn614

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  29. cbrad

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    Announcers made a good point though about how having 2 WRs in the same area increases the chances of an INT, which happened later in the game. McD should probably rethink that.
     
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  30. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    This view of Hill's drop brings it into focus. Seemed so odd at the time. SMH.
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  31. Two Tacos

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    Horrible take. Which QB makes no silly mistakes? Why do you think Tua makes more than other elite QBs? You are letting recency bias color your perception. Peyton Manning couldn't win the big game until he did.
     
  32. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    It's not a "horrible take."
     
  33. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    The worst reffed game I've ever seen.
     
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  34. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    If he cuts out the mistakes, I guess he can get up to 80% completions and a 130+ passer rating. Just odd that somebody expects him to not just be better than other QBs, but the best ever BY FAR.
     
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  35. KeyFin

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    Huh, in another thread I said there was PI on two Tua TD throws. That makes a 3rd.
     
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  36. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well argued. Good points.
     
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  37. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The expectations and analysis of Tua are so weird and detached from any sort of perspective sometimes. I don't understand it.
     
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  38. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    As a Drill Sergeant in the Army, I would have a “daddy talk” with my females about week 11/12 into training. I was hard on them. Brutally hard on them because after 18 years in the Army at the time, I saw what the “typical” female in the military was like, but I digress. Anyhow…

    I used to tell these females that they had to be twice as good just to be considered good enough.

    Amazing how that same lecture to my female soldiers seems to apply to Tua. For some people, it doesn’t matter WHAT he does. It doesn’t matter what stats he leads the league in, if those stats aren’t at least TWICE what ever other quarterbacks stats are (which is impossible) he’ll never be good enough.
     
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  39. OwesOwn614

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    Actually, in hindsight, I think I should have thought twice before posting this. Not to suggest that #1 isn't playing remarkably well, but because there's nothing wrong with thinking there's room for improvement with every player. I'm sure Tua and McDaniel would actually agree with Resnor's post, not because it suggests that Tua isn't already good but because it's an honest truth that he can be better.

    Yeah, he's playing well right now. But for as scary as it might seem, there is another level for him to attain. Let's hope he does it.
     
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  40. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I would agree with this. Any player, regardless of position…regardless of how great they are, there’s always SOMETHING they can improve on.

    The same thing can be said for anyone in general. No matter how good you are at (fill in the blank), there’s always something you can improve upon.
     
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  41. RGF

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    Your team beat the Eagles and even THAT doesn't make you happy. You STILL need to play the "misery loves company" game here to get your giggles. Strange, but whatever.
     
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