3 trade potential candidates

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  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    With training camp just around the corner, and the regular season not far behind, the Dolphins have some decisions to make. They obviously have to trim the roster down to 53 players, but there’s also trades to consider. If Miami can get some value out of players who may have been cut anyways, then it makes all the sense in the world to do so.

    With that said, here are three Dolphins who may be on the trade block as training camp approaches.

    3. Cedrick Wilson, WR
    Wilson joined the Dolphins last offseason in free agency, but his first season in Miami was kind of a flop. In 15 games, Wilson had just 12 receptions for 136 yards and no touchdowns. Compare that to his final season with the Dallas Cowboys, in which he had 45 receptions for 602 yards and six touchdowns, and its easy to see the drop off.

    At best, Wilson is a No. 3 receiver behind Hill and Waddle, but even that seems unlikely. The Dolphins brought in Braxton Berrios this offseason, and he may have the inside track to winning that No. 3 receiver role. If that happens, then Wilson’s days in Miami may be numbered.

    The Dolphins could look to recoup some, albeit not much, value by trading Wilson rather than outright cutting him. More importantly, they would also save $7 million against the cap if they were to trade him, as opposed to the mere $2 million they’d get from a cut. Wilson is still just 28, and just two years removed from a 600-yard season, so he may draw some interest.

    2. Robbie Chosen, WR
    Formerly known as Robbie Anderson, Chosen has been a productive receiver in the past. He previously recorded a 1,000-yard season with the Carolina Panthers in 2020, but his production has fallen off dramatically since then. This past season marked a low point, as he had just 20 receptions for 282 yards and one touchdown while splitting time between the Panthers and Arizona Cardinals. Granted, Chosen hasn’t played in ideal quarterback situations at all, but the huge drop off is still alarming.
    The Dolphins picked up Chosen this offseason, hoping to get production more akin to his earlier years in the league. With the two stars getting most of the targets, though, Chosen may not have much chance to shine in this offense. If the Dolphins view him as expendable, he could be on the move again soon.

    Chosen’s market around the league could depend on his performance in the preseason, so don’t expect anything imminent. If he does impress, though, a receiver-needy team could come knocking on Miami’s door.

    1. Myles Gaskin, RB
    Gaskin has been a solid enough back in Miami, with back-to-back seasons of over 800 total yards in 2020 and 2021. However, it’s somewhat surprising that he’s still on the roster.

    Gaskin didn’t see much action in Mike McDaniel’s first year as head coach, with just 14 touches in four games all season. The Dolphins’ backfield is also very crowded, as they re-signed Raheem Mostert and Jeff Wilson while also drafting Devon Achane this offseason. If Gaskin struggled to get snaps last season, it won’t be any easier this year.

    Knowing all this, it’s fair to wonder if Gaskin will be on Miami’s opening day roster. The Dolphins may end up cutting him, but they should at least try to get something back for him. After all, he’s only 26 and has shown he can be productive, so he should attract some interest.

    If some team needs a running back before the regular season starts, they should be checking in on Gaskin. He may not fetch the Dolphins much in return, but they can at least get something for him while giving him a fresh start.

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  2. djphinfan

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    sure, I don't think Chosen will be moved but if someone wants to offer a pick for any of those players for sure.

    we'll have to pay a team some of wilsons salary though.
     
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  3. VManis

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    I don't think there is much trade value there, although you may be able to pair one of these players with a pick to sweeten the pot in a trade for another player.
     
  4. Unlucky 13

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    The Dolphins have about as much odds of trading Gaskin for anything as they do trading one of us, lol.

    He might potentially catch one with another team as their 3rd or 4th RB once he's cut from Miami, but no way are they getting even a 2025 7th rounder back for him. He's a body and insurance in case we suffer multiple injuries in camp.
     
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  5. dolphin25

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    I'd say Chosen is least of those to be traded and less then a 1% chance he would be traded. Quite honestly it would be stupid for them to trade him at his contract and reports of how good he looks.
     
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  6. Unlucky 13

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    He's a cheap lottery ticket. There's no real reason to move on from him if he looks good and seems like he's going to fit the offense and be productive. He and Berrios both chose the Fins so that they could showcase their skills in this offense and hopefully get big deals a year from now, so he's going to be highly motivated to perform.

    The only real way I see them trading him is if other, longer term answers like Ezukanma and Higgins really look awesome in camp and the preseason, and Anderson is then a progress blocker for them getting onto the field.
     
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  7. The_Dark_Knight

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    The wide receiver room is very crowded at the moment.

    Hill
    Waddle
    Wilson
    Berrios
    Anderson
    Craycraft

    Did I miss anyone?

    Don’t see more than 5 being carried on the roster.
     
  8. Unlucky 13

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    I would rank them like this:

    1. Hill
    2. Waddle

    Then a huge gap

    3. Berrios - very safe roster spot, but far below those two

    Then another big gap

    4. Erik Ezukanma - safe based on being drafted last year. Not necessarily even a threat to be the #4 WR on the depth chart

    5. Anderson - safer based on his cheap contract and previous performance

    6. Wilson - based purely on ability and production, he's far superior to anyone below him. Probably above EZ and maybe Anderson. However, the team would immediately gain a net of 6m in cap space by trading him, making him appealing if the chance comes up. Cutting him does not create cap space, so if no one offers a trade, he's absolutely on the roster.

    7. Cracraft - based on performance last season and familiarity with McDaniel, he's the next man up if one of the guys above him isn't on the roster. If not, I think that they'll try hard to keep him on the PS.

    8. Braylon Sanders - based on him being on the active roster for a few games last season

    9. Freddie Swain - active NFL experience on offense with Seattle before coming to Miami

    10. Chris Coleman - played on ST with the Titans in 29 games over two years.
     
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  9. The_Dark_Knight

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    Damn, forgot about those others. I’d like to see Cracraft and Ezukanma have a breakout season.
     
  10. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Braylon Sanders is the guy I'm going to keep an eye on. He just needs an opportunity.
     
  11. Unlucky 13

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    I don't think that Cracraft or Sanders have a future. Bottom of the roster guys. Cracraft could be a fine #4 for this year if the worst happened, but I don't think he's around beyond that regardless.
     
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  12. dolphin25

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    Thinking you way underestimate Chosen.
     
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  13. Unlucky 13

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    This is my ranking on how safe they are to make the 53, not now good their 2023 season might potentially be. And I feel very strongly about my top four in that regard.

    Is there a chance that Anderson can capture what he had with the Jets here and there this year? I hope so. I don't think that the volume will be there for him to be a 50 catch, 700 yard guy, because Waddle does what he does better and is more important to the team. If Waddle and Hill are healthy, then I think that Berrios is next in catches because he provides a short area skill set that we need and Anderson doesn't possess.
     
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  14. dolphin25

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    That's fair, I think Chosen will be the 3 WR.
     
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  15. The Goat

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    If Chosen keeps his head on straight, he's going to be the #3 receiver, imo. I'm a fan of Berrios AND Ezukanma, but there's no way I rank him below either. Anderson has had a season that's equivalent to Berrios's career...and EZ has one regular season NFL target.

    Am I confident he keeps his head on straight? No. But I'm hopeful.
     
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  16. Unlucky 13

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    Regardless of whether you think Anderson is better than Berrios, if all of the top four are healthy, do you see Anderson getting the looks and targets on the field at the same time as Hill and Waddle?

    Last season, short to medium area routes and conversion was a real weakness for us. It killed drives and/or forced the team into 4th downs because we tried to go too deep too often. Unfortunately, we didn't improve the run game this offseason, but I feel really sure that they signed Berrios to improve that area in the slot with the pass game. If its 3rd and 4, hit him for 6 yards and move the chains, like a lesser Wes Welker, who happens to be his position coach. In 2020 and 21 with the Jets, that's what he did.

    Anderson has gifts, but that's not his game. When he was at his best with the Jets, he was a big play guy, averaging 15-20 yards a catch when he was on. He just doesn't offer the skills that we need as a compliment to the main two, especially given that we don't have anyone at TE and our RBs aren't great at pass catching either. So I think that Anderson ends up mostly as a guy who gives Hill and Waddle a breather, but spends a lot less time on the field than Berrios does.
     
  17. dolphin25

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    Yeah, but Waddle and Hill do, they can be interchanged in the slot so defenses never know who really is playing that position.
     
  18. Unlucky 13

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    To this point, I don't think I've seen McDaniel use Waddle in the slot as any more than a deep route. I could be wrong, but there weren't a lot of other cases. I think that he could excel a lot at drag routes due to his speed and quickness, but we'll see. They didn't use him that way last season. Regardless, I do worry about him getting crushed after catching a slant if the defender reads it right. He's not built like Jarvis Landry who could do that all day long.

    I would love so much to have someone like Deebo Samuel who we could use that way to compliment the fast guys. Maybe next year.
     
  19. dolphin25

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    Waddle has added LBS this of season. He is looking much thicker.
     
  20. Unlucky 13

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    He's still tiny though. I know a lot of WRs seem to be, and I don't quite get what's chanted. I guess different body builds at the position.

    Makes me wonder what happened to all of the bigger guys that used to play WR. Are they at different positions now?
     
  21. dolphin25

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    not sure what the average size of NFL receiver is now. I just think our 2 stars are shorter. Can be short and thick though like Hines Ward
     
  22. texanphinatic

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    I'm not sure Gaskin has any real trade value. Maybe as like a late round pick swap or something. He's a non-value player at a non-value position.

    WR we definitely have a surplus, but again we shouldn't expect anything outside of late round stuff at this point. The Jets just traded a young former second rounder for a conditional pick swap that becomes literally nothing if the Lions cut the dude. Like, they are just giving the Lions a free look.

    Wilson might get you like a 6th at this point. I think it's between him and Anderson though - one isn't making the roster. Berrios probably makes it on slot specialty and special teams.
     
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  23. Unlucky 13

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    Ward wasn't that short. Listed at 6.0, 205. I think he likely played heavier than that a lot of his career.

    A lot of the young WRs coming into the league are not only listed around 190 or less though, but they're just slight, and have really skinny legs. If feels like for every guy with a solid build like Ja'Marr Chase, you have three built like Stefon Diggs.
     
  24. tirty8

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    One thing that I keep seeing that blows my mind is that we could trade a RB. Gaskin is currently be floated, and there are rumors that if we acquired Dalvin Cook, Jeff Wilson or possibly even Raheem Mostert could be traded.

    For the life of me, I do not understand how anyone could objectively think that. The fact that Dalvin Cook is currently sitting without a team is a testament to just how bad the RB market currently is. Imagine you are a GM with a team in need of RB depth or your team suffers an injury in camp. Are you giving up a draft pick for one of our RBs? No chance. Here are a a list of RBs that you could currently sign for zero draft compensation:

    Ezekiel Elliott
    Leonard Fournette
    Kareem Hunt
    Darrell Henderson
    Kenyon Drake
    Mark Ingram
    Rex Burkhead
     
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  25. texanphinatic

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    I mean, the Giants just signed James Robinson for a penny. Anyone thinks Gaskin is getting value when dudes like Robinson are desperate just to get rostered ....

    RBs man.
     
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