The Hill of it all

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  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the guy was wearing a Jets hat or something. Then……
     
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  2. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Then it was justified.
     
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  3. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    They're calling it "assault and battery." WTF. How is slapping someone one the back of the head "assault and battery"? I used to work with at risk youth, they always were slapping each other on the back of the head when the person did something stupid or said something stupid, they would call them "Son."

    Yes, you shouldn't slap people...but this sort of stuff happens when people of drastically different backgrounds are interacting.

    Hill is still mostly a PoS, though. Lol
     
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  4. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Striking someone in the head who doesn't want to be hit in the head is always going to be considered assault, slap or fist. All depends on how hard he hit him, but a slap can be pretty violent and cause plenty of damage.

    Hill is a tremendous player and fun to watch, but he was a PoS before he was a Dolphin and becoming a Dolphin didn't magically make him not a PoS.
     
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  5. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he’s definitely an idiot. When you give people who are basically kids, multi million dollar contracts to play a game, things like this happen, especially with goofs like Tyreek.
     
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  6. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Wowsa!
    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/0...-give-man-200-after-slapping-him-report-says/
     
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  7. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    If the guy initially wasn't going to press charges, I don't think it was a slap that you would see in like those crazy slap competitions.

    I already said I think he is a PoS, that has nothing to do with my opinion of pussified men who call the police because they got slapped.
     
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  8. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Hill said "I'm number 10 from the Dolphins"? Seems pretty made up or exaggerated.
     
  9. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    Well there is a lot of room between a tap on the back of the head and something that could knock him out

    Guy definitely sees it as an opportunity for a little payday and I don't blame him because I would take it too.
     
  10. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    To me, men who run around striking people in the back of the head and thinking they can do it without consequence are the real pussified men, not the men who decide to hold them accountable for their actions so that maybe they learn a lesson and don't do it to somebody else.

    To me pussified is 2 guys decide to have a fight, one guy loses, then calls the police. I fully support anyone, man or woman, for pressing charges to the fullest extent of the law if they are assaulted. Lately where I live, I keep hearing about guys and girls sucker punching each other and then high tailing it out of there. Now that's pussified! And I think that's more akin to what Hill did here. Smacking an employee in the back of the head who likely was not expecting it or engaging Hill in any way. I don't blame him one bit for having him held accountable, whether he's looking for a payday or not.

    And yes, at minimum - we both agree Hill is a PoS.
     
  11. dolphin25

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    The second guy did what he should have done. Thank goodness someone was there to hold Hill back from doing more damage. He was defending the girls who should never have gotten on the mans boat in the first place. That is like someone coming into your house uninvited, not cool at all. Really disappointed in Hill.
     
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  12. Tuanon4Life

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    Very well said my man!
     
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  13. VManis

    VManis Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There is always two sides to every story and right now we are only hearing the other guy's side. Generally these types of altercations take two to tango so while what the boat captain is saying maybe technically accurate it is being frame to paint him in the best light and Hill in the worst light.
     
  14. TheHighExhaulted

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    Remember also that nobody wanted to press charges in the beginning. Lawyers obviously got involved pretty quick looking for a payday.
     
  15. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately for Hill in this case there was video of the event in question. And that evidence is backing the accuser's claims according to the police reports.
     
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  16. resnor

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    Right.

    I'm saying that is pathetic.
     
  17. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Oh I agree, those examples you gave are also pussified men.

    I'm just saying, someone slaps me in the back of the head, they're getting slapped back...I'm not calling the police.
     
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  18. TheHighExhaulted

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  19. StaleTacos

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    It was clear enough to "Officers reviewed surveillance footage that recorded the arguments, which backed up the boat captain’s and employee’s accounts, the report said. The employee identified Hill as the man who slapped him in a photo lineup, and officers referred him to the State Attorney’s Office to pursue charges."

    What article in the Miami Herald is he referring to?

    EDIT: LOL. I found it. "What they viewed was a copy of the surveillance video taken by a police officer’s cellphone camera."

    That's why it wasn't clear. Not because the actual video didn't show what Hill did. of course Kouffman left that part out.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article276758436.html#storylink=cpy
     
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  20. TheHighExhaulted

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    There's nothing in that article that says there is clear video of Hill slapping the victim. Only that officers reviewed the footage that recorded the "arguments".
     
  21. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    I am sure a 57 year old man fighting a 29 year old professional athlete will end well
     
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  22. StaleTacos

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    Because that article is based on state investigators watching a cellphone camera video taken from a police officer from a "distance not very clear or helpful" of the actual surveillance footage. The police that did the initial report saw the actual footage and said it backed up the boat captain’s and employee’s accounts and referred him to the State Attorney’s Office to pursue charges. This is stated in the police report:

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/0...-give-man-200-after-slapping-him-report-says/

    The State Attorney’s Office just received preliminary materials thus far (ie cell phone video of surveillance footage). The actual footage will eventually make it's way to them if the victim is moving forward with charges "who has not spoken with state prosecutors yet." This stuff takes time to play out.
     
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  23. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Hill will plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of assault, receive a $10,000 fine, so many hours community service and the league will suspend Hill for 1 game IAW the leagues personal conduct policy.

    Then this guy will sue Hill which will be settled out of court for a 6 figure settlement.
     
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  24. VManis

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    I think Hill reaches a settlement with the guy and the charges are dropped. I’m not sure what the league will do then.
     
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  25. dolphin25

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    typically i would agree with this, but there has been like zero coverage on this on the NFL app
     
  26. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Personally - I agree with you 100%. Someone strikes me, I'm hitting back. I wouldn't call the police, but if they showed up, I'd hit 'em with the double whammy. Hopefully F 'em up pretty good and blow them in for assault. With any luck they would learn the lesson twice, the hard way.

    We also have to keep in mind though, not everyone is in a position where they're able to defend themselves, be it age, out of shape, or maybe just much smaller and weaker. Personally - I'm defending myself regardless and either come out on top or go down swinging!
     
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  27. Sceeto

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    Dolphins' Tyreek Hill declares he will be first player in NFL history to get 2,000 receiving yards in a season

    Hill says he'll break the all-time receiving record in 2023 season and Miami will win Super Bowl LVIII

    By Garrett Podell
    Among all the records that exist in the NFL, 2,000 yards in a single season stands out among the crowd. There have only been eight running backs in league history to accumulate 2,000 yards on the ground in a single season. Hitting that benchmark presents multiple rewards coming in various forms like nicknames (CJ2K for Tennessee Titans running back Chris Johnson), new contracts, hardware (Offensive Player of the Year and MVP awards), and immortality (four of the eight are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame with Adrian Peterson a lock to join that group one day). Miami Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hills proclaimed he will hit the mark in receiving yards, something that has never been done in NFL history.

    "I will break 2,000 yards next year, bro," Hill said on his "It Needed To Be Said" podcast on Saturday. "2,000 yards was on my bucket list to get before I leave this league ... 2,000 yards and another Super Bowl -- we getting that. Believe that."

    The single-season receiving yards record holder is Hall of Famer Calvin Johnson, the former Detroit Lion, who utilized an NFL single-season record nine games with over 120 receiving yards in 2012 en route to the record of 1,964. He averaged 122.8 receiving yards per game, 16.1 receiving yards per catch, while playing all 16 games and hauling in an NFL-high 122 receptions on 204 targets that season.

    Hill's confidence in breaking that mark isn't entirely unfounded. He's a seven-time Pro Bowl selection -- every year of his career -- a four-time First-Team All-Pro and 2010s All-Decade Team member who set career-highs in receptions (119) and receiving yards (1,710) in 2023, his first season with the Dolphins, after six years with the Kansas City Chiefs. That production allowed him to become the new record holder for the most receiving yards with a new team in NFL history, while his 119 catches accounted for 32% of the Dolphins' catches as a team, the highest rate in the entire NFL. Crazy enough, Hill had the best season of his career and one of the best in the league in 2022 despite admitting he didn't really have a grasp on the new playbook after going from Andy Reid's Chiefs offense to Mike McDaniel's Dolphins offense.

    "For me going into Year 2, it's all about learning the playbook more, understanding where Tua (Tagovailoa) wants me to be at on the field and how just everything operates," Hill said on June 8. "Last year for me was like a blur. I had to come, I had to learn the playbook, I had to get to know my teammates. And this year everything has slowed down. Last year, I was just out there balling. I was just out there just using all athleticism. Like, 'Here, Tua, I'm going to be here and we're just going to do that.' So this year should be a crazier year."


    While Hill himself should be in a better position to ball out in 2023 with a greater understanding of the offensive system he's running, his production ceiling is tied to the health of Tagovailoa. The Dolphins quarterback led the NFL in passer rating (105.5) and yards per pass attempt (8.9) in his first season with Hill and McDaniel, but he also suffered multiple concussions, causing him to miss five games last season. Those absences included the last two contests of the regular season and Miami's AFC wild-card round loss at the Buffalo Bills.

    Between Tagovailoa's focus on training his body to bounce back better with martial arts training this offseason and another year of building chemistry together, Hill is exuding plenty of confidence that he can hit the previously unattainable receiving yards milestone.

    "I feel like I've got the right tools around me," Hill said. "I've got obviously the most accurate quarterback in the NFL, I've got one of the best head coaches in the NFL and also my position coach is a monster also. So just having those three things and me just keeping the same mindset each and every day that I want to get better and I want to break the record and I do want to break the record. So I feel like this is one of those years that I can achieve it."
    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...tory-to-get-2000-receiving-yards-in-a-season/
     
  29. TheHighExhaulted

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    Seems like Hill isn't worried about his off-field incident.
     
  30. VManis

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  31. Finatik

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    I just wanna get paid.
     
  32. plc001

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    I wanna piss off Tyreek…
     
  33. OwesOwn614

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    Video shows Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill appearing to slap man in back of head in alleged assault incident


    MIAMI GARDENS,Fla. – Local 10 News obtained new surveillance video from South Florida radio host Andy Slater Wednesday that shows Miami Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill appearing to slap a man in the back of his head at Haulover Marina last month.

    The video shows Hill walking behind the man that was standing on a dock when Hill appeared to slap him in the back of his head.

    Moments after allegedly slapping the man, a large group of people were seen trying to calm Hill down.

    Hill addressed the media for the first time Wednesday following his alleged assault.

    Hill recently reached a settlement with the man he allegedly hit at the marina on June 18.

    On Wednesday, at the team’s second official day of training camp, Hill called the incident “a boneheaded mistake” and said he is fully cooperating with the NFL during its investigation.

    “This issue has been resolved and I’m currently cooperating with the NFL and giving them all the details on what happened that day,” Hill told reporters at training camp.
     
  34. dolphin25

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    It is settled and should be done with now.
     
  35. OwesOwn614

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    I would never endorse putting your hands on somebody else. But that's as much a physical assault as burping next to somebody on a city bus is a battery. Don't get me wrong, Hill is a turd for doing it. But that guy called the police for the general principle of getting him back.
     
  36. Finatik

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    I agree. That's really ticky-tack.
     
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