http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/23qb/23qbs.php This is a Scott Wright article not my own, and while I dont even like Wright, he makes a strong argument. Will it apply to Henne? Who knows, but the odds are against him. Note: This was not made to start an argument or be viewed as smacking the Phins its simply to spark discussion, I like Henne and reviewed him favorably in my draft guide.
Good read and I do see Wright's points. The one QB that stands out, Brees, really should've been a first rounder and I mean should've been drafted by us instead of Fletcher. With quality scouting and a bit of luck, I don't think drafting in the 1st round really deserves the stigma it gets.
Depending on who comes out, could be as many as 5. The reason more and more QBs are being drafted in the 2-3 range is simply because the overall crop is not that good. There are certainly individual gems, but the overall quality of draft-eligible QBs is declining. There are some serious #1 overall QB busts out there: Michael Vick, Alex Smith, David Carr, Tim Couch. Those guys have set their teams back by quite a bit a bit. Then you have the general first round busts: JP Losman, Rex Grossman, Byron Leftwich, Ryan Leaf, Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, Cade McNown, Akili Smith, possibly Jason Campbell, possibly Matt Leinart. (In four years, when this same topic is broached, Matt Ryan's name will go here.) Drafting a quarterback in the first round is risky business these days. I can count on one hand the amount of first round QBs who have worked out recently: Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, maybe Philip Rivers. That said, the trouble is not when you draft a quarterback, it's which quarterback you take, it's how you develop them, and it's how they were developed in college. College football is less about being the NFL minor leagues and more about doing their own thing. Those programs are arguably more competitive than the NFL. (Not as talented, but more competitive.) Quarterbacks will continue to be taken lower and lower until they begin producing again. We're a far cry from the class of '83. But for what it's worth, Matt Stafford could actually work out as a first round pick next year.
Pretty good overall analysis of the situation One thing that might work a bit in a lower rounders favor is the fact that not so much pressure to produce might be heaped upon them from the start. Also, we might be seeing QBs going about where they should, instead of having an inflated value. Granted, its a hugely important position, but if the talent doesnt justify it, why pass up a guy with superior talent who will almost certainly succeed, a guy like Patrick Willis come strongly to mind, over a QB your hoping will turn out to justify a spot you might really be taking him to high at.
Agreed. I doubt the Ravens and Falcons are killing themselves for drafting Flacco and Ryan. The determining factor is not the QB prospects but the GMs. A smart GM will pass over a bust QB (Mario Williams over Vince Young). The reality is there are never that many QBs who deserve the first round slot. The Falcons and Ravens did the right thing by grabbing their franchise QBs in the first. We'll see how long it takes the Chiefs to land their franchise QB. If they're still looking in three years they blew this draft. I'm cautiously optimistic that Henne is going to be a good QB for us but if he turns into a bust and Ryan and Flacco are the real deals, this draft will go down as a bust no matter how good Jake Long becomes
Chiefs will definitely be in a position to draft a 1st round QB. People keep thinking first round QB's have a high propensity to become a bust but I think it's no different than any other position. It all comes to scouting. I felt QB's like Russell, Young, and Alex Smith were not worthy of 1st round selections but QB's like Eli, Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Cutler were. The last three Super Bowl winners were from that pool of 1st rounders.
1st round QBs have a higher success rate than any other round. I think people just are afraid of picking that high. You dont win if you play scared
I thought next years crop of QB's was supposed to be very weak. I thought I saw that written over and over again by those that were adamant we pick a QB this last draft.
Yeah I think its a horrible class with Stafford possibly being the one exception. Still we'll have to see if any of the QBs really step up. We'll know alot better in a few weeks
Put the list of non-1st round QBs who dont; make it and the list would be substantial. Of course there are going to be 1st round busts. But there are 1st round busts of every position, not just QBs. Teams should just give up their first round picks then. That list is a good list and it's just the 2nd round. Regarding Ryan, gotta disagree there Des. I think he's going to be a good'n. It was just one game, and it was just one pass, but it was his first ever pass, and it was a beaut!
