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Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Jt0323, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    drop your carbs at nite...eat a liquid meal for breakfast
     
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  2. Boik14

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    Key,

    There’s more then one way to lose weight. Personally, I try and take in my calories during breakfast and lunch so the body has time throughout the day to work those off. Anything I eat at night is either fruit or milk and cookies (shaddup!). Any food in moderation is ok, but I never buy potato chips or soda since self control is non-existent once I get started lol. Anything is ok in moderation but moderation is not a subjective term when it comes to nutrition...you have to read and follow the serving sizes recommended on the packaging. And no, single serve packages don’t make it healthier, it just means you can’t go crazy and eat a ridiculous amount of your favorite junk food.

    I’ve always been of the opinion that cardio is the enemy of weight loss because of the chemicals it causes your body to produce. When I do cardio, I swim. Stressful cardio can be good, like wind sprints or playing basketball. Running for miles is not good for everyone as your body can become bloated.

    The reason you’re gaining weight while lifting is because muscle weighs 4x more then fat and protein has more calories per gram then fats or carbs. It doesn’t mean you should eat fats or carbs. Your body will always burn carbs and fats first. For many people though, myself included, weight loss and working out need to be done sequentially. In other words, some people need to first lose the weight then build a better body. Walk briskly or swim to burn the calories you take in before you start lifting. Carry a 1 liter water bottle with you everywhere...you should be filling that 7-8x a day. That will squash any hunger besides your meals...if you have to snack, it should be fruit or some thing reasonable (granola, certain nuts like cashews and almonds are healthy, etc). Stay away from grease and sugary candy. Meals should be lean proteins (fish, chicken, turkey) and should be baked not fried. And no, you shouldn’t eat the fat. Meat should be a once a week deal unless you cook it well done to burn the fat but I don’t like hockey puck hamburger or a steak that tastes like a leather belt hence why I said once a week.

    Lastly, go to your local health food store and do a body cleanse. GNC has one for like $40 that’s filled with healthy probiotics and you’ll drop 5lbs just from that lol.

    Hope there’s some stuff in there you can use. :)
     
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  3. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Luckily I don't go for junk food often UNLESS it's in the house....so we just don't buy it (well, we buy crap the kids like and I don't like). But you're 100% right, my main problem has been skipping breakfast, skipping lunch and then having a big dinner. The body doesn't work like that and it's a great recipe for gaining weight.

    Here's my big problem- I have a bulging disc in my lower back that goes insane after about 1/4 mile of walking. So for now, I'm limited to exercise bikes...I grind out about 30-45 minutes a day. It doesn't feel like I'm getting anywhere though other than the workout value for my legs. Sure, I might breathe hard as I "sprint" the last quarter mile....but it's not real cardio.

    It's a catch 22 though- to avoid surgery, I need to walk A LOT and lose weight. But I can't walk and most physicians think surgery is not the answer anymore since you're fusing the spine and limiting yourself. Dieting, lifting weights and the exercise bike isn't cutting it though....on an average week, I'm breaking even or gaining a pound. I know it's good weight (muscle) and muscle ultimately burns fat, but it's just frustrating when you're doing everything right and the scale doesn't agree.

    I'm guessing the back limitations would go away around 270 pounds...so dropping 30 is the immediate goal and then I can get serious. I jogged 4 miles a day in my 20's so I want to run (or even walk), I just can't right now and that's the frustrating part.

    I've been drinking about a gallon of either water and/or tea with splenda for about six months now and I don't eat bad...except maybe for breakfast. I am never hungry in the mornings but I'll eat something like a bagel with cream cheese if it's here, so the doctor told me to eat it. For lunch I usually have a Healthy Choice steamer....which is insanely good people! Very low calories and the flavors will surprise you. For a $3 quick lunch, you can't beat it.


    A health nut buddy of mine out in LA has been pushing me to do a juice cleanse...I've been thinking about it. I'll check out GNC too though and see about the body cleanses. I've tried a couple of different colon cleanses over the years and that DID NOT end well! LOL, those things are evil!

    I appreciate all the advice though...there were some great nuggets in there!
     
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  4. ToddPhin

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    :lol: at Santa Claus giving us weight loss advice.
     
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  5. Boik14

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    Santa aint Jewish fool :dunno:
     
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  6. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Some gyms have pools with in water treadmills. If you can find one that would be a good option id guess if you need a low stress workout for your back.
     
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  7. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Since when did you become Jewish? I thought you were Italian.
     
  8. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Common error :001_rolleyes:
     
  9. ToddPhin

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    :lol:
     
  10. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Watch this masterpiece at x1.5 speed without laughing.

     
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  11. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Why on Earth would you know to put a video at 1.5x speed? I didn't even know that was an option....but that was hysterical.
     
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  12. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    You figured it out though right? Just click on settings and voila. It's makes porn much more entertaining. :shifty: It's also what I used to see what Hartline would look like as a sub 4.5 receiver.
     
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  13. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    LOL! Yeah, I figured it out. My wife said it was stupid so we brought the kid in for the deciding vote...and she laughed like crazy.
     
  14. ToddPhin

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    My work is done!.... and give your daughter a fist bump for me..... and tell your wife Ebay's got a great deal on a knock-off brand of sense of humor right now.
     
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  15. ToddPhin

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    LOL at some of the comments. "Is there an English version of this song?"
     
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  16. McLovin

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    right before he says Chacarron and the guy mumbles, is how I picture Todd talking on the phone.
     
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  17. ToddPhin

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    Growing so DAMN TIRED of listening to these MORONIC BLOWHARDS pushing the ridiculous narrative that it's the AR-15 that's responsible for these mass shootings, not the psychopathic kid but the gun itself, as if the weapon is telepathically whispering in the kid's ear "Hey, buy me buy me, then go all Rampage in a school with me!!"........ or as if, if the AR-15 didn't exist, these psychotic kids would think "man, I got no semi-auto rifle so I might as well not go through with it, ho-hum."........... Or that, if the AR-15 didnt exist, a pair of 45's with extended clips wouldn't cause mass damage in a crowded confined space. If a kid is determined to inflict serious damage and the AR-15 weren't available, he will find another way. He'll make homemade bombs that kill twice as many kids.

    Here's an idea: how about changing this country's health approach to preventative based medicine rather than pharmaceutical based so that this country isn't being pumped full of neurological altering drugs that are rampantly fu**ing with this collective nation's mental/psychological state. Then have parents actually do a better job rearing our kids.

    I've read history books. I'm smart enough to heed their warnings, and I'm certainly not ignorant and naïve enough to believe that history cant or wont repeat itself here. If the day ever comes that this country needs to defend itself, or if the citizens ever need to defend ourselves against our own govt, and society and freedom as we know it are at stake, then we are going to need every firearm we can get, especially if we ever have to square off against our own military. Aint nobody ever won a war or conflict without being weaponized. Look at some of these nations that are struggling during conflicts bc their citizens aren't weaponized, with them desperately relying on countries like America to supply them. That could be us one day.
     
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  18. danmarino

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    Here's my opinion.

    I'm a combat Marine vet. I own 3 AR's and many other semi-auto rifles and handguns. I conceal carry every day. I am a member of the NRA. Guns aren't the problem... per se.

    However, I think the "AR" style weapons are empowering today's youth. I hate to say it, but this guy could have done the same damage, or worse, with a few handguns or shotguns. But...the AR empowered him. The truth is, the AR is no more lethal than a mini-14, or a 30/30, or a .30-06 or any of the other hundreds of types and calibers of rifles. But...the AR empowers people. Why? Probably because they are hyped up as an "assault weapon". They are called a "military style" weapon. Neither are true. But...it empowers people.

    Better background checks need to happen. MANDATORY training and psych evals need to happen. It's time. Not because of "guns", but because we as a society have become apathetic and callous. These two things go against nearly all gun enthusiasts beliefs. They (we) like to tout "It's a slippery slope". Well...at this point I just don't give a ****. Yes, "guns" are a right, but not for the untrained or mentally unstable. If I have to jump through hoops to own one and it saves a school from being shot up I'm all for it.
     
  19. ToddPhin

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    interesting take and makes some sense. So essentially you're implying that the media and govt blowhards who continue to GLORIFY these AR-15's in their pursuit to ban them, are ironically actually serving to empower our youth to use these weapons and go on these rampages that we're trying to prevent. hmph.

    Shared sentiment on the last paragraph.

    Why are all these news analyst idiots treating this rifle as though it's equivalent to a .50 caliber? This one idiot just called it an automatic weapon.... and another one asked "how do we possibly let such a powerful weapon onto our streets?!" At least report sh** accurately instead of pulling nonsense out of your arse.
     
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  20. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Yes. The lies and hyperbole about this particular rifle is why it’s the weapon of choice for crazies. One of my handguns is a .357 revolver. It holds 5 rounds. This guy shot kids from very close range while they were in large groups. Give me a couple of speed loaders and my .357 and I’d do more damage than he did. Yes, that’s with training, but the point is, he could have killed a dozen people with the same handgun. He didn’t choose a handgun, however, because the AR has reached mythical levels.
     
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  21. danmarino

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    And let me just say... my AR’s are not like the M-16 or M4 I carried in the Marines and am AR is NOT an assault rifle.

    But I am just tired of all of this. People need mandatory training and mandatory psych evals...This goes against most gun owners beliefs, but this is a great way to prevent these thins from happening.
     
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  22. Carmen Cygni

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    I'm a Marjory Stoneman Douglas alumni, class of '96. My wife's soccer coach still coaches there, my good friend is the DC for the football team, we know teachers, officers, and first respondents that were all involved whom are our friends and former classmates. Pulling hard for coach Aaron Feis to make it thru his heroic efforts to save his kids. **** today.
     
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  23. danmarino

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    Damn... I’m sorry bro. So horrible...
     
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  24. ToddPhin

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    So at the distance these shooters are operating from, wouldn't a 12 gauge 00Buck inflict significantly more damage and more damage per entry wound than an AK whose bullet doesn't yet begin tumbling upon impact at that range?
     
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  25. danmarino

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    For home defense, ie close range, nothing beats a shotgun. That’s my weapon of choice for defending my home and I was trained with one to clear buildings.
     
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  26. danmarino

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    Also, the “tumble” of the 5.56/.223 is a myth. (I’m assuming you meant AR and not AK)
     
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  27. danmarino

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    The Feds need to get involved.

    I suggest a mandatory training program for ANYBODY that has not had previous military weapons training if they want to own any type of firearm. I specify military weapons instead of just military because some branches of service and jobs in the military don't require the service member to have any real type of contact with rifles/handguns. In the Marine Corps every Marine shoots their M-16/M-4 multiple times per year no matter their job. In the Air Force, for example, some members shoot 20 rounds through an M-16/M-4 in basic training and never touch one again. Some member in the military get handgun training and some don't.

    This mandatory training should be long enough to not only teach weapons safety, but also familiarize a person with the weapon(s) they want to purchase and also require that they are proficient. Not Olympic or Marine Corps Expert badge shooter proficient, but they should be able to safely hit a reasonable target at a reasonable distance. If not, no gun for you. And if they go through the class for a pistol and then want to purchase an AR they need to go through an accelerated AR/Rifle class too. On top of this, each instructor should have to go through some sort of mental health eval training. They should be able to pick up on certain types of mental health issues from their students that would preclude them from passing the course and thus not be able to purchase a weapon. Yes, I realize that this is subjective and is that "slippery slope" that some want to avoid, but tough ****. If you're crazy you can't own a weapon. If you're violent, you can't own a weapon.

    When you do something that can potentially take a life, drive a car, perform surgery, etc, you should have to go through extensive training. That time has come for people who want to own a gun.
     
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  28. eltos_lightfoot

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    Sorry, Carmen! That really, really sucks! Hug anyone you can for those of us from far away. We are all thinking of you guys!
     
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  29. Paul 13

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    It's hard to talk about what happened yesterday without bringing up the gun debate. Thoughts and prayers to all those affected yesterday. It's a complex problem. You can't solve it by doing one thing (banning assault rifles as an example). And part of me wants to do the AR ban just so a certain segment of the population can shut the **** up when the next mass shooting occurs with whatever gun that wasn't banned.

    -I think broken homes doesn't help (divorced parents or single parents raising a child, or in this case apparently both parents were deceased)
    -video games sensationalizing first person shooters doesn't help.
    -violence on tv doesn't help, kids getting desensitized to people dying as if it's no big deal. EX. I saw Clint Eastwood in Magnum Force when I was in my teens in the 80s... that one scene where the shooter kills all those people in the pool gave me nightmares. Now though? A scene like that is common place. Kids these days aren't affected by it.
    -parent disconnect doesn't help. Gotta stay on top of our kids and what they digest mentally on a daily basis. Near impossible task with all the phones/ electronics/ access these kids have these days.

    So common theme in my mind... the parents... and if they aren't around, society needs to help out with these kids/young adults.

    And this is getting political so probably gonna have to delete this :sad:
     
  30. danmarino

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    Did you watch any of the kids being interviewed? None of them seemed scared, or even affected by the events that they just witnessed. Some talked about the "dead bodies" they saw, the blood, etc, without even an ounce of emotion. It was just stated as matter of fact as I've ever seen.

    Scary times we are living in.
     
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  31. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Yes, I saw some kids that had to have been in shock and couldn't emote what they were feeling. There were kids that started to break up when speaking about it as well. It was a mix that I saw. Couple of the girls I saw had no emotion, like they were robots talking about the facts. It did make me think there might be something wrong with them beyond the obvious circumstances of the day.
     
  32. Ohio Fanatic

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    You expect a gun instructor to be able pick up on mental health issues? If the person is an obvious nut, then yes. But overall, there's no qualification to do that. The issue here isn't training with deadly weapons. I won't get into the real root cause - which is poverty and negative environments around these kids that lose it, because we know that will never change. THe issue is that even when a school (or any type of official) identiies someone that needs help and is a potential danger to others, there is neither a good system to help those people or resources to help these kids before it happens.
     
  33. Ohio Fanatic

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    very good points. I'd throw on top of that another issue - these school shootings are now so common place that these kids in trouble feel like it's now the best way to maximize their damage. used to be horrible enough when an adult would shoot up an office place, but murdering kids is just a higher level of awfulness IMO.
     
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    A good friend from high school was on the other end of that equation yesterday- he was a surgical tech working on all the teachers/kids being brought in. He can't talk about patients but he said that it was one of the worst days of his life with all the chaos at the hospital...that really made this feel a lot more personal for me.

    As to a solution, I don't think it's a gun problem or a mental health problem...it's 100% a society problem. If you look at all the shooters over the past 10 years, every single one of them started out being a victim- whether it was bullying, abuse at home or something similar. Because of the way kids use social media as their real reality these days, your life is being monitored under a microscope and it makes these types of folks feel 10x more alone. They get depressed, think about suicide, and then wake up one day angry...and it leads to this. The key is paying attention and someone reaching out before these people get to that nuclear level, and that can only happen at home and in the schools.

    This is a MUST WATCH video from Sandy Hook Promise, a non-profit awareness group started over the shootings-

     
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    That's why I said the instructors should have to go through additional training.

    The biggest and quickest thing that would HELP lessen these incidences is making the availability less easy. Poverty is waaaaaaaaaaay down on the list as to the reason why this happens. Mental health is waaaaaaaay high on that list. It's very difficult to address those two things, but it's not as difficult to do what I suggested. Creating a system that requires every person to undergo intensive weapons training carried out by weapons instructors with mental health training.

    The resources are there. It's just that people turn a blind eye or think, "Naaa, he would never shoot up a school".

    Obviously these kids/adults who do this are mentally deranged and most came/come from bad environments. But without the weapon they can't do what they do. This 19 yr old either purchased this AR himself with no background check and legally, stole it from a careless owner who didn't keep it locked up, or "borrowed' it from a friend/relative. If the first is true, my recommendation would have stopped him from getting this rifle. If the second is true, better mandatory training may have prevented the owner from being careless, and if it's the third the relative/friend could also be held liable under my training regulations. (I'd also make it illegal to allow anyone to loan a weapon to another person who hasn't gone through the mandatory training)
     
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  36. Carmen Cygni

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  37. eltos_lightfoot

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    Out of curiosity, who enforces all of this?
     
  38. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    The state would enforce it.
     
  39. eltos_lightfoot

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    At least you didn’t say would enforce it well. Because something that nuanced would be very difficult.
     
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    That's horrible! I heard he stepped into the gunfire to shield his students though...it does not get more heroic than that. We should start a Go-Fund-Me campaign for his family as a site, then we can all share it out on social as well. If you guys are up for it, I'll write a compelling tribute in the morning and get the campaign launched.

    Let's make it your call Carmen. If you want to do it though, I'll go big with a press release to the media stations, etc. to give us a shot at a large number.
     

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