****The Official 2016-2017 NBA Thread****

Brandon Knight sucks. His defense is as bad as Ryan Anderson and Knights own contracts combined. Stay away from both.

And the reason the Knicks pulled back was 2 fold...1) New GM and 2) they dont like the packages being offered. They can always start the season with the team. Id rather let Carmelo play out the season in NY and get nothing back then gake back silly contracts like Anderson or Knight. Let him opt out after the year if no one wants to offer something useful. Youre talking about a 10x allstar and 1 of only 5 players ever to score 20+ ppg for their first 13 straight seasons.

Portland also no longer wants Anderson and is reportedly not interested in being involved unless theyre getting Melo. I know hes not going there (too far from his son and none of the super friends)

 

It makes sense. LMAM shot 39% from 3 last year, better then Gordon. It also allows them to deal Ariza at 7.8m and get some actual assets back to satisfy NYK.

 

Agreed...hes just a killer in FT though.

 

Wasn't there a dude on the rockets recently that shot underhand FTs? I know it looks goofy af, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

 

Couper Moorehead a nice article on what Bam Adebayo showed in Summer League.

http://www.nba.com/heat/newsrecap/bam-things-you-might-have-missed

Some videos there if you can get them to work on your browser (had some issues personally).

Here's another video just to illustrate. You can probably pick out some of the things Moorehead is talking about in his article.

"Baby Dwight" is exactly right. There was a resistance to comparing him to Dwight Howard, I think because that carries too many implications about what a great pick he is/will be, but the simple fact of the matter is physically he stacks up exactly like Dwight Howard in terms of frame and athleticism, and his style is even very close to Howard's.

 

I don't know but Zach Auguste's free throw shooting in Summer League was so damned poor that if I was his coach I'd say you start shooting these underhanded or we're done here.

 

Leslie alexander is selling the rockets. Pretty big news especially when it comes to future transactions.

 

The Knicks have strung this trade talk out so long from initial reports that I think most Rocket fans don't care if Carmelo comes or not anymore. I feel bad for him. We had the #2 offense in the league without him. I'm fine with him coming as long as Ryan Anderson is the only piece we lose. Losing anyone else of importance would piss me off.

Oh, and Portland has no shot.

 

CP3, Harden, and Ariza are all too tight. I can't see him being traded.

 

I remember when he first came into the league...he missed his first 30 or so free throws. I thought Morey had lost his damn mind taking some kid from Switzerland in the 1st round that couldn't shoot. He's worked his way up from that, to a 30% FT shooter, to a mid 50% FT shooter in just two seasons. For a kid that's only 22, he's developing at a remarkable rate. With the way John Lucas has been developing him, I'd be surprised if Capela doesn't become a 60% FT shooter this upcoming season. His 14 points and 9 rebound average in 25 mpg should turn into close to 20 and 10 next season, in my opinion.

 

It's only news to non-Rockets fans. Players and Rockets fans have known this was coming years ago. This is why I've been saying he wants to win that 3rd championship so bad. This is why we don't believe in rebuilding. This is also why Harden has been recruiting his tail off the last few years. Les is a great owner, and Harden/Morey want to win one for him before he sells.

 

Nanu Onuaka. He's still on the team, barely. This was his shot to take over Montrezl Harrell's role from last year. But, he STUNK in summer league. Tarik Black is signed, so he'll likely be part of a trade or cut.

 

Oh I know he's progressed and he's still young enough to continue. It's just that 60% free throw shooters in fantasy can be a killer if there's enough volume

 

There's one on the Knicks summer league team but different then the guy you're thinking of.

 

You don't have many tradeable assets to get you more picks or young players. Arias would be one and he started his career in NY under Larry Brown

 

I'm fine with trading or keeping him. But I'm not taking Ryan Anderson back unless I get 4 picks...2 for Anthony and 2 for taking that bum contract back. I think most knick fans just want this to end one way or another but taking back Andersons contract almost puts the Knicks in an Isiah like cap hell with 55m per committed to TH Jr, Noah and Anderson. That's also why no one else wants Andersons contract because they know it has to be moved to facilitate such a deal. Imo I think Ariza ends up as part of it.

 

Rockets are for sale. The curse of CP3.

CP3 goes to New Orleans, team gets sold.

CP3 goes to Los Angeles, team gets sold.

CP3 goes to Houston, team gets sold.

 

Please trade him to the Knicks!!!!!!!!!! Ill give Anthony, Willy Hernangomez, and a 1st in 2018 and 2020. Just get Dolan the hell out of there!!!!!

 

Uh oh. NY Post is reporting "LeBron James is fed up, and his decision may be made."

http://nypost.com/2017/07/17/lebron...e/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=twitter_app

 

So he begged for them to overpay Tristan Thompson JR Smith and Iman Shumpert for 18, 15 and 10m per and he's wondering why there's no moves made? There this thing called the Salary cap, LeFail. No one wants your teams trash (Shumpert) or overpaid role players (Jr and Thompson)!

 

On the one hand, if LBJ is pissed because he wants a team to operate by his leave, he's not going to find that outside of Cleveland. On the other hand it's a pretty good point that one of the reasons they didn't get Butler, Billups, and Crawford is perceived instability in the organization. Then again I wonder if LBJ contributes to that.

 

They didn't get Butler because they didn't have the assets to get him. Plain and simple. And the two assets they do have, love and Kyrie, they are trying to add to, not replace them with different players.

I wish that they would have gotten billups. I think he'd have been vastly overmatched as a GM. And if he thinks a 37 year old Chuckford was going to solve their issues well then lolz.

He absolutely contributes to that instability. No GM wants to be a puppet for him to cry about.

 

They could've gotten Butler if they sold Butler. They didn't. Butler wanted no part of the Cavs.

 

Going to be a LOOONG year if everyone believes every LBJ rumor that will be out there.

 

I get it. He spent some time in Miami and is longing for a first-class organization. It's like eating caviar for four years and then having to eat spam day in and day out.

 

Nah. But it's fun to watch all of the talk and speculation, and hand-wringing in Cleveland.

 

Why would he? Lebrons there. And no, they could not have gotten Butler.... they really have few assets other teams want. Unless the bulls want bloated contracts or a package of Channing Frye and Richard Jefferson and maybe a 2020 and 2022 1st, I'm not sure they could have gotten it done.

 

Hey, if he wants to join a team that didn't make the playoffs (N the East mind, you) then he may as well team up with Porzingis in NY.

 

No. I'd rather lose and rebuild the right way. I want that douche nowhere near my team. We already have one loser I can't get rid of (Dolan)

 

I have a feeling you and I both will be old men before the Knicks are back into serious contention. May as well find your adopted team sooner than later.

 

Houston (Presuming that's where Melo goes) and T Wolves cause (KAT and Butler)

 

Riley should reach out to Bron and fix their relationship. Riley wants to win rings immediately, so does Lebron, and I'm not sure there's a faster way to get there than having Lebron.

We have solid contracts that should be easy to move to clear cap space if they want to go all out.

Westbrook, Bron, Whiteside? Westbrook vs KD in the finals.

Come home, bron bron.

 

It is starting to sound like Lebron leaving is inevitible, especially if they dont make the finals this upcoming season. Theyve made no improvements, no tradeabke assets. I think its incredible that no one wants Kevin love, i think his numbers are great for beingg a third option, but whatever, hate on the lone white guy making max if you must.

I doubt its Miami though, with the talent we have, you add Lebron and we are instantly contenders, but it comes off very tacky to go back and forth between teams, though he's pulled that tacky move twice.

i think he will definitely be looking at the Lakers closely.

 

If LeBron just wants to win rings immediately he can go to a number of teams that would arguably be better positioned to do so than Miami.

 

Time heals wounds, and there have been some subtle olive branches. Riley made a point in that big ESPN Magazine article to say that he was wrong to handle the situation the way that he did, and that LeBron made the right decision for him. Then you have LeBron posting a picture of himself in Miami thanking the people that got him where he is today. It wouldn't surprise me if the animosity between the two has withered, or is even gone.

That being said, I think there is very little chance LeBron comes back to the Heat at this point. Like CK said, if LeBron wants to win another title, it's going to be hard to do in Miami. I think the best Miami could do would be to trade some parts (like Dragic and TJ), and bring back Wade and maybe bring in Melo next year if all three wanted to take a discount. But that team almost certainly doesn't get you past the Warriors if they're healthy and playing their best. Now, if LeBron is content in just being happy in a great city and a great organization playing with friends, maybe there is a small chance.

 

As for a more realistic reunion, supposedly Dwyane Wade enrolled his kids in school in Miami. With Waiters continually being vocal about bringing him here, and Wade responding to some of it, this is looking like a real possibility.

 

Just my two cents but I think Wade looks like a strong option to get bought out of Chicago in January of 2018 and then end up back in Miami at the MLE.

 

Some pictures of the new Nike uniforms are coming out. It also appears that they are using a new material.:

 

Would rather keep our team than bring in melo and wade and expect to win anything.

I don't see him going west, obviously because of golden state being in the way of the finals.

If Miami can land Russell Westbrook(please Jesus) and keep Hassan Whiteside, Lebron should at least consider us.

I really just want Goatbrook in Miami.

 

I don't think any of this is going to happen, but you're telling me you wouldn't trade Dragic and Tyler Johnson (and maybe someone else like Winslow) for LeBron and Melo? I'd do that in a heartbeat. Melo is on the downside of his career, but that's still easily the best team in the East with the two of them, Waiters, JJ, and Whiteside.

I think Westbrook is a big time long shot at best. Even if he were interested, Miami would need to move contracts just for the chance to sign him. I think other than trades, Miami's next shot at getting a star is in three years.