Stop. Gase said Weddle doesn't know what he's talking about. Adam Gase. Head coach of the Miami Dolphins, in case you didn't know. So tell him your absurd and debunked theories.
No, he hasn't. Big Ben made it work with Mike Wallace and Tannehill fell way short. Now he's a lot more efficient with Stills, but let's not pretend Tannehill has made a lot of deep ball plays. His YPA has almost always been mediocre. That was college with Luke Joeckel. And I wouldn't say it was great. It was slightly above average for a college QB. He wasn't known for great pocket presence or great anything, mostly just an intelligent, athletic guy. He was clearly a project QB. I'm not gonna even entertain that last argument. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hey bro, first off want to thank you for always trying to keep the board (Main Forum and Club) moving with different topics, asking questions, etc. when there's a major lull. You've been doing it basically since the start of the board, much appreciated giving others stuff to read/think about regarding the team who for some people is their only hobby. I know there are some things you need RT to show, but when I read what you replied to here.....it made me think there are FOUR things that a lot of people can agree he is great at....I agree with those 4 things. Last year he was a great deep ball thrower too. I know "them's fighting words" around here, but it is the truth (in my eyes). Anyway....gets me thinking, there are probably 10 starting QBs in the league who aren't really great at any single thing. Good maybe, but not great. Do people agree with that? Tannehill is probably the most "old-school" sort of incremental QB learner we have in the NFL IMO. Most guys seem to be what they are year in and year out, I give him major credit for improving on something every year. Off-topic, but I have seen P. Rivers' name mentioned here and other threads, and I just want to throw it out there........our boy RT has already outplayed him what, 3 times head-to-head?
Yes, he has. The stats prove me right. "Not only is Tannehill not a bad deep thrower, he’s one of the best deep passers in the league when you set the threshold at 20 yards." http://presnapreads.com/2016/03/24/the-mike-wallace-effect-deep-ball-accuracy-and-ryan-tannehill/
You're proving my point. That chart is based on when Mike Wallace left and he was throwing to Stills. I said he showed promise with Stills but never got it working with Wallace like Big Ben was able to. And who's ranked ahead of Tannehill in that chart? Hey, I'm glad if Tannehill has the right pieces to make his deep ball effective, but let's not pretend he can do that with anybody. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
My favorite part of the deep ball argument....scratch that...make it my two favorite parts about the deep ball argument... 1. The complete and utter lack of understanding of a timing based offense. I mean, Wallace's last year with Big Rape was on par with his Dolphin years. Why? Because the Steelers changed systems to a timing based one. Fact. 2. The push to reinvent the definition of a deep ball from the industry and long-time standard of 20+ yards to 40+ yards.
Hartline is easier to hit, think about it. Anybody can handle a Camry but not many can handle a Demon. It's not much of a knock against Tannehill, it's just something I can't get past much because I was disappointed he couldn't mimic what Roethlisberger was able to do. He did do well with Hartline and he is doing well with Stills. I'm just not giving him a pass on Wallace is all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Such craziness. People won't admit they're wrong. Just keep repeating the same arguments from years ago, despite evidence to the contrary.
It means he's difficult to hit, but Big Ben did it, which is why he's the top deep ball passer. I already acknowledged Tannehill did well with Hartline and Stills, but I can't overlook his body of work with Wallace. It takes a special QB to do what Ben did and Tannehill isn't special. He's just average or slightly above average like I've always maintained. If he maintains what Stills helped him do last season, he'll be more than slightly above average at hitting the deep ball. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
