Merged:Pennington Released/ Dolphins inquire

Got to keep first things first...

 

Sorry to go off-topic but you have to wonder what the hell they are thinking in Tampa right now. They had an extra 1000 tickets ordered for today's practice, expecting Favre to appear there. They also told all the fans about all this Favre stuff and had a PC planned in Disney. Now, they don't have him lol.

 

enjoy it. it will be the last time you'll be "livin" for awhile.

 

Well I think he would be a good addition to help the QB's along and Mcnown should be the odd mans out.

 

thats why i am trying to make sure the bar has the Dolphins game, then ill worry about... strippers, noooo

 

they only offered a 6th or 7th rounder

 

Pennington can stay away from Miami as far as I'm concerned.. He's injury prone, has no upside, and he's past his prime.

I don't care about his career stats because those do us no good. We might as well take our chances with Beck this season and if he doesn't pan out, well then we drafted Chad Henne. That articles' source on how the Dolphins inquire about Pennington doesn't seem reliable, in fact it sounds more like speculation right now.

 

I thought it was fourth? Also, what I meant was, can you imagine how the Tampa fans feel lol.

 

I call the shots!!



I wish

 

I tend to agree with you.

McCown has a consistency problem but if were going to have a vet here to possibly start McCown is mobile and can thrown on the run.
Pennington not so much not to mention his shoulder problems.

Considering the youth on the OLine, an injury prone slow a foot QB dosen't make sense to me.

 

Chad Pennington is a slight upgrade over McKown, but I would have preferred Favre for a couple years here.

 

thats what i meant.. tampa only offered a 6th or 7th

 

Keep the dream alive bro........ as long as you can!

Reality hits like a brick wall!

 

Pennington had a prime?

 

What does make sense, however, is an extremely accurate QB for the short passing game. That's Pennington. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of him either, but I have no doubt that he's way more capable of running this offense than McCown. Beck's that kind of QB as well but he hasn't exactly earned the job yet. This isn't going to be a bigplay offense like Linehan's - this is a run first, ball security, take time of the clock kind of offense that needs an accurate arm more than a strong one. A mere look at McCown's completion percentage tells you that he isn't the best guy to run it. I'd take Pennington over McCown in a heartbeat.

 

Somewhat.

 

I think that is where Pennington's experience would come in, perhaps he can dump the ball off more quickly and accurately then any of the Qb's we have right now.

He had two rotator cuff tears back in 05, he hasn't had a problem since according to Wiki anyway.

 

OK, just playing devils advocate here.....

Isn't all the criticism about Beck stemming from his falling back on checkdowns and the short to intermediate passing game.

Yet here now I see posts supporting getting Pennington with a weak arm but good at short passing and dump offs.

I'm confused.

Not calling you out Padre, just making an observation.

 

Maybe you are right but I just can't get comfortable with the trade off.
Overall if a vet HAD to start this year over Beck or Henne, I'd much rather keep McCown.

 

another qb.......................If this happens mccown gets sent packing I would guess?

 

I think that's more of so called "journalists".

 

Problem is, at the moment Beck is no good at it right now or at least not as good as Penny is.

Things like recognizing blitzes and coverages, Pennington has seen just about everything.

 

I posted this in club, but I think it's relative to the discussion here on Pennington as well.

Let me just begin by saying that I'm not excited about seeing Pennington in a Dolphins uniform, but it was something that was rumored throughout the offseason, so I'm not surprised to see it crop up on the heels of the Brett Favre trade. In some respects, I almost feel bad for Pennington because the team has pretty much used and abused him at this point. He almost would have been better off demanding a trade during the offseason.

There's no denying that our QB play has been shaky at best during training camp, with no one really standing out. McCown has been mostly down, Beck has pressed, and Henne has been average. Carter was brought in to work out (likely for motivational purposes), but failed to really distinguish himself.

I'm not a Pennington fan. For me, he's the Anti-Favre, a weak-armed short passer who doesn't take a lot of chances. Factor in that he plays for the rival Jets and it's easy to understand why most don't want to see him here. Favre is all about deep balls and gambling, Pennington is about the underneath crossing routes and playing it conservative.

That said, he is a good for this latest Dolphins team - as we are trying to be a run-first, conservative offense that doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Pennington gives us a veteran that won't make a lot of plays with his arm, but will adequately manage the game for us. For a young rebuilding team, that's exactly what Sparano and Ireland are looking for. While the Jets look for that superstar to put them over the top now, we're looking for that veteran QB to help us be competitive while building for the future, without mortgaging the team's future in the process.

I'm not surprised in the slightest to see us inquire about him, and when all is said and done, I wouldn't be shocked to see him on our sideline. Just like we are building for the future - the Anti-Jets, if you will - we're probably interested in the Anti-Favre. Besides, the irony of a Pennington-led Dolphins team vs. a Favre-led Jets team would lend more luster to an already sure-to-be exciting opening day.

 

Yeah, likely.

 

He better be.

You don't give up on a young prospect beginning year two to make room for Chad Pennington.

 

Well this will be the day we will never see a 30 yard+ Pass

 

Not true. Every four or five games or so Chad musters up enough strength for a 45, 50 yard lob. However, your receiver needs to get at least 10 yards of seperation before he would dare to throw it.

 

Pennington helps us in no way, though. So we win an extra 2 games, it isn't going to put us in the playoffs so it doesn't matter, IMO. I'd much rather see what we got with Beck.

 

I rather have Beck learning from Pennington than McCown.

 

If we just needed a Qb, then sure, but we have 5 new starters on offense, and when I say "new" I mean 1 years starting or less:

Long, Fasano, Ginn, Long, Hagan, Thomas.

Adding a green Qb to the mix is not going to help things come together for the rest of the offensive, if CP is acquired and starts, at least that we be a start towards getting those guys up to speed instead of struggling along with a raw Qb.

 

" B I N G O and Bingo was his name-o"

Bringing Penny in doesn't make a lick of sense for this team. I might start questioning the thought process of the FO if they make a move for him. I don't mind the players believing that they have a chance to make the playoffs or win the SB, but I don't think that our FO should feel the same way when it's very apparent that we are not a playoff team. Their ability to judge and evaluate talent (and our chances) would come into question IMO.

 

But then you are basically writing off the rebuilding process and trying to "win now". Penny doesn't want to be a backup and that would mean that neither Beck or Henne have a chance.

Not a good move IMO.

 

That's fair, but why not let them learn together because those could be possible 10 year starters for Miami...

 

But theres still competition. Nobody wants to be a backup. But right now we have 3 guys that are playing like backups. Having a starting-caliber QB here would raise the performance of the other QBs...

And while we are arent trying to win now, we are trying to win in 2010. Theres no certainty that either Beck or Henne will be at Pennington's level in 2010, as pessimistic as that sounds.

 

Because when the Qb is screwing up, it stalls the entire offense out.

Why not let the Ginns and Fasanos learn how to be starters with a guy who can deliver the ball where it is supposed to go the first time?

"If" (granted we are still there) we bring in Pennington, he could have the offense operating sooner then any of the other Qb's on the roster.

That way, if CP is injured or whatever later in the year, the position players will know where they are supposed to be, and what they are supposed to do in a given situation without them doing everything right, and then the Qb mucks things up.

 

Wow, we've been Dolphins fans for a long time haven't we?

 

you know, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him end up in New England.

 

Its the reality of the NFL. Poor QB play is all over. Look around the league, and half the teams are in the same boat as us. The chances of a QB succeeding in the league are slim right off the bat. Pennington isn't great, but hes good. I don't think I would pass up a good QB when you aren't sure what will happen with Beck and Henne.

 

If you're ok with McCown competing for the starting position, you should be super-ok with Pennington competing for it instead.