Should Interim Head Coach Dan Campbell be Retained?

This is a rediculous thread being the season is at the midway point but I'll answer. I don't see it happening unless he's allowed or wants to picks his own staff. Something tells me that he's biting his tongue when it comes to Lazor. Given the type of player Campbell was and the coaching tree he was born from, some of these players and the offensive system that is being used here is most likely not to his liking.

 

I do think Dan can succeed as a head coach. He is more of a rah-rah type of HC which means that he has to have damn good coordinators to have long term success. This is possible (see Bill Cowher), but it's rare that it's sustainable. I'm not sure this administration can put together a staff to complement Dan Campbell, but I'm very hesitant to to go out and hire someone that can't motivate our players to the same extent as Dan. I would be interested in Hugh Jackson to see what he can do, but I'm very paranoid that going after any other coordinator will give us another Joe Philbin. And unlike others here, I'm not crazy about the idea of going after S Payton.

 

Didnt vote because there needs to be a "need to see more" option. Love the passion and emotion that he brings to this football team. I don't think theres a guy on this football team that doesn't respect him, but he's handicapped with an offensive coordinator he didn't choose as well as players he didn't choose to fit the mold of how he would like this team to look. Everything considered hes doing a pretty good job under the circumstances 8-8 or anything better he needs to be viewed as a serious candidate, I think he would do an excellent job with an offseason to find his type of guys and coordinators that fit his mold.

 

NOPE....waited this long to finally be in position to have synergy with a front office and coaching staff completely on the same page and that's what will happen when Tannenbaum hires a new coach and GM...he's done inheriting people, he's lucky as hell to be running a team for the 2nd time, no way he blows it on a 5 year TE's coach.

 

I voted yes because as of right now I would retain him. If the team falters down the stretch then no but the way he has us playing right now is enough to show me that we could be a playoff team with him as a coach. Now is he a guy that can take us all the way? I don't know but I do know that he is a much better coach than Philbin. It isn't easy to find a coach that can actually inspire and lead a group of men. People act like its easy to find guys like him that can lead men, it isn't. As of right now I would retain him.

 

No, I don't think so.

I think he has potential, but he's not a viable head coach right now. I don't think he has the X's and O's or the game management skills, and I'm not sure he can appropriately identify the kind of coaches he can delegate to and get the results he needs.

If he plays he cards right, a couple years down the road he should be getting head coaching interviews. As it stands now, not so much.

 

I would say yes. Tannenbaum did hire him, so he is his guy.

He can motivate players, and they are playing hard for him.

With that same mentality I believe he could get good young OC to come in to work with him too. I'm thinking the DC might be ok to keep.

 

Lol..I love how the OP spells out what the vote is about...assume you have to make a call..and still people go on their own tangent.

Guys..just follow da damn directions.

I voted yes cuz thats what he asked. If I had to answer right now..I would say yes

 

I am not sure at this point. I would like to say yes because I'd like to see what he can do if he had a full offseason and a full season to work with. Plus if he needed to choose coordinators or other coaches.

 

There are some things I like about coach Campbell, but I vote no based on his game-management. At this point one of the worst I've seen at clock-management. Over the course of a season would likely hurt Miami's chances at winning a couple of games.

 

I vote no, I've decided to never waver (because I did with Philbin and have learned my lesson ) from my stance on the most important trait a coach can have...

A track record of exceeding expectations of the given team's talent level by adapting to his players' strengths.

Now Campbell may show that in the future, but at this specific point in time, he hasn't because the data set is too small.

 

True, between that and the Cowboys game the Giants could easily be running away with that division. On the flip side Belichick once again showed why he is the best in the business in all aspects of the game by how he managed the game.

Why coaches who struggle in that area don't cover all aspects of clock-management in preparation and have a person right next to them or on headset to tell them whether to call timeout or not is beyond me.

 

yes..you don't give up on a guy with this sort of potential because he has some rough patches to learn..you don't risk letting him go thinking you might get him back..

from what I look for in a new coach I say yes, and allow him to grow into the coach of the future, show patience, he's the youngest in the game at this point..He's the kind of coach this franchise, playing in this town, playing in that stadium need.

 

I voted yes at this point. Not because I think he is a good coach right now. I think he has the necessary intangibles to be a great one. On top of that, the right mind set of competitive practices, etc. I think there will be some rough moments with him. But, unless there is absolutely trash rest of season, I think I am willing to ride it out with him.

 

Who are you going to be able to bring in?

The irony is, this isn't an issue with Campbell. It's an issue with being unable to adequately fill out his staff.

 

hear hear...he didn't pick those assistants.....where is the room for error and growth in folks evaluation of the head coach when it comes to the fact that he did not pick his staff?..I think we have to factor in these things and the end of the day {sun's favorite phrase} when evaluating whether or not we might of hit the mother load in head coach.

 

there are always up and coming assistants looking for a coordinator job..do you think because he's dan campbell and so young he cant get those?....He just needs to do his homework this offseason, and make the calls..trust is part of this..

 

So your answer to my question appears to be, "let Dan Campbell figure it out!"

Haha, that's fine. I have no problem with that except I'd like to go beyond it for the sake of conversation.

I think right now there are 2-3 very appealing HC candidates who may be available. Each would bring a successful background, years of experience and a motivational attitude much like we see from Campbell.

The question is, do you like Campbell enough to pass up those other options and if so, where are your coordinators going to come from?

I like Campbell and I can live with watching Tannehiill to be quite honest but I just don't see where Miami is going to get coordinators that are qualified and will give them an edge.

 

I appreciate his ability to fire up the team. I appreciate his ability to bond with the players.

There are multiple facets to being a HC, and Campbell has put positive checks in only a few of those line items.

What has he done to instill in you confidence he can recognize a good staff? He retained Lazor, who most of us agree is crap, for example.

 

Should he be retained as the Head Coach... probably not. Should he be retained on the coaching staff I think so.

 

I'll say "No" as of right now. There are still some low-hanging fruit changes that *should* be made that haven't been in terms of personnel moves, as well as some schematic things that I think have gone overlooked. For instance personnel-wise: benching Dallas Thomas, playing Mosley and/or Phillips over Earl Mitchell, limiting Walt Aikens' snaps more, figuring out how to better utilize Jordan Cameron, etc. Schematic-wise: protecting Tannehill better, Bill Lazor's play-calling and play designs, figuring out how to stop the run consistently (though it has gotten better overall since Campbell got rid of Coyle, but it's still not where it should be).

I think Campbell's got potential, and *IF* Miami does keep him, I think you have to very seriously look at replacing Lazor and your defensive coordinator needs to have a LOT of experience. I just would rather go with Hue Jackson, especially if Miami continues to play up and down the rest of the way and continually struggle against playoff-caliber teams (a problem that plagued Philbin).

 

While that's true, what has Campbell done to instill confidence in his ability to pick coordinators? Also note, that Tannebaum's and Campbell's desires for a staff may be different and each may have different secondary motivations for those wants.

 

I think if they were able to land Jim Schwartz (they already reached out) if Campbell is retained, I'd feel pretty confident about the defense. Bill Lazor should be under a LOT of scrutiny the final 7 games, but I'd probably land on the side of the fence where you remove him. If you don't, then you really need to clean out some of the assistant coaches like Taylor, O'Keefe, perhaps Benton, and give Lazor a better surrounding staff. I'd trust a lot of Al Saunders' input here.

One thing to keep in mind is that Saunders is a confidant of Hue Jackson and Jackson spoke pretty glowingly about Jim Schwartz vis a vis the Bills vacancy this past offseason. Just saying.

 

I think Campbell is a compelling head coaching candidate in a couple of years with grooming- He should go to a team that is going to let him be an assistant head coach and gain experience in the bigger picture of gameplanning, scheme, and in-game management without putting it all on his shoulders.

I don't like the idea of just trying to hire quality assistants. You need to be a good schematic guy to identify those guys- or at least an experienced coach. You're risking another Joe Philbin situation where you have a guy who lacked the experience just picking up the guys he has worked with in the past.

Picking them for him is just ***-backwards, too.

 

Since I am limited to a yes or no response based on your criteria, at this time my answer is no. Yet check back with me in 7 weeks and I might have a different answer for you.

 

If we all thought that was true I think we'd all vote to bring Campbell back. Why wouldn't we?

Until we know that for sure though I think the burden of proof is on the ones who make that assertion.

 

you wanna go beyond what?, the guy has the intangibles that should be coveted by this franchise considering we haven't sniffed those things in decades..so yes, I'm doubling down on the traits, and am wiling to let him grow into the schematic parts even if it means losing a bit in the process..

the prospects you speak of, do you think they have the correct leadership and intangibles?, cause I sure as hell don't, I dont get that vibe from the usual suspects being talked about, Malzahn yes, Urban meyer yes..Hue jackson, sean payton?, Im not sure.

who are your prospects over Dan?

To me this is about identifying the foundation of a great coach..of course we have to see how he handles the rest of the season but the question was based on right now..from what i have seen going back to hard knocks, I would say he has that foundation, and I'm just not willing to give that up..roll the dice man..

 

There are too many good candidates out there to simply hire someone based on potential.

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No, No, No, and hell No

I like the guy and I am rooting for him to succeed but the fact is that he has not shown anything special thats worth investing in.

yes he is handicapped with what he inherited but thats life you gotta play the cards your dealt. He has not played them well enough to be offered the job yet.

He let 3 safities in a row occur under his watch. that must be some obscure nfl record. The play calling that he oversees has been mediocre. Execution has been lacking. penalties from being undisciplined.

There is time for him to turn it all around and make these guys competitive but wait and see is not an option so no frigging way if I have to pick today and i like the guy.

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If the choice is Jackson, Payton, or Campbell, I'd rather stick with the up an coming Campbell all day every day.

Not many prospects that intrigue me this year. I'd rather let Campbell have his choice of GM/staff.

Honestly though, its less of an endorsement on him and more of a fear of the other options. Can't say I'm crazy about Payton, but I have a feeling he might be the man already in a certain *someones* eyes.