Favre: Packers' $20M offer to stay retired may be best

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  1. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3514071
     
  2. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    Actually according to ESPNEWS the offer is now $25 million. Also this is probably going to count against the cap. Why they just don't trade him to say the Jets for a bargain bin price is beyond me, I guess they prefer things the hard way.
     
  3. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Against the cap? Ouch. That's going to be a pain in the arse.
    They want that first rounder I guess lol. I'm really not sure why. That's a good question. :lol:
     
  4. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    Yeahp :yes: that's what Adam Schefter said the rumor around the league is. He said because it would give them a football advantage that the league would have to count it.

    Also the Packers are stupid and overly dramatic because if they wanted rid of him getting say a 3rd/4th (that's what Randy Moss was so Favre is at least worth that (but I think he's worth more but he has the Pack bent over a barrel and they'll never get top trade value for him now)) from the Jets would be great as that trade couldn't bite them come playoff time (assuming Rodgers can get them there).

    They want the best of both worlds I guess. :pity:
     
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  5. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Well it seems Bus Cook is pushing Favre to take this offer because he would be getting more money.
     
  6. Jaydog57

    Jaydog57 Canes/Fins/Magic fan

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    Ted Thompson better hope his boy Rodgers, who he picked, doesn't suck because he's made such an effort to make sure Aaron is the starter next year. If he turns out to be a bust, Thompson will be checking under the hood of his car before he starts it for quite some time.:shifty: That guy is a bastard. He doesn't care so much about the Packers as he does his own reputation. He wants to prove he knows who's the best guy to have at qb, even if means kicking to the curb a guy with legendary status up there. However it turns out, I think a lot of people will be glad when he's gone as GM.:pity:
     
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  7. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    What a joke Favre is if he takes this. Packers have laid all the cards on the table. All Favre has to do is reject and show up.
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Please. Favre is hardly being kicked to the curb. He's done this "I'm done, no wait I'm back" routine for four or five years now. He FINALLY appeared to have made up his mind and retired for good. The Packers asked him in March if he wanted to come back, and he said no. So the Packers tailored their draft strategy and free agent examinations accordingly. They drafted two QBs, they arranged their roster, and they moved on.

    Now Favre wants to come back at the very last minute with a $12 million salary. Are you kidding me? The Packers are the ones getting screwed here. They have a very good team and a guy they think will give them good QB play for the next decade, and they're now being held hostage by a guy who gave them his word that he was done.

    I'm with the Packers on this one; Favre needs to go the hell away. This is the reverse of getting jilted at the altar, as if someone crashed the wedding and threw a beer bottle at the groom.
     
  9. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    I agree 100% :hi5:
     
  10. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Thank you!

    I've been saying this since it first started but everyone disagreed!
     
  11. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    I think Favre would be a total fool NOT to take this offer! I couldn't imagine someone paying me that amount of money to NOT work!
     
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  12. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Why? He can make that money in 2 years sitting on the bench.
     
  13. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Would you rather sit on the bench in god-knows what weather or would you sit in front of your plasma screen, eating potato chips, drinking beer and watching the team play the games while getting you get payed to do that?
     
  14. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    hmmm get paid now to sit at home, play golf, do whatever the **** you want or wait 2 years to accumulate the same amount, yet you have still go through training camp, preseason, two-adays, practices, etc.



    I'll take the money now please FTW. Then I can go charge people to get my autograph.
     
  15. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    I'd take the 2 year deal.
     
  16. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    Well what if you prefer doing those things opposed to sitting at home wasting your time. You got to remember his job isn't like ours and I'm sure if we got to play football for a living for 17 years and loved it we would rather play than sit at home. Its all about where your heart is, like when you take a lower paying job to be happy opposed to a higher paying job where you're miserable.

    Well I myself side with Favre and against Thompson on this argument and I agree with you on pretty much everything you said. The only thing I disagree with is your last sentence and not by much. I think if Rodgers stinks it up then yes Thompson will be ran out of town if he doesn't he'll be good to go,

    Other than that we agree on everything. Glad to see someone has some common sense around here. :wink2:
     
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  17. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    Well, if he truly liked doing these things he wouldn't always put off his decisions to retire/unretire until the last minute for the past 4 years. They guy is truly selfish, and he should just take the money and run. Go out with some dignity, get ready for the HOF, have his number retired in week one, and live the rest of his life being known as one of the top 2-3 players......ever.......in this sport.
     
  18. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    I totally disagree with that. Just about every NFL player will say that when the season is over their bodies are so beaten that all of them would like to retire. Put on top of that a rough season for the non-Super Bowl winners and you have an extra potent problem. Now look at the way Favre went out.

    He was 37 I believe (mid 30s for sure) and you know his body is strung out put on top of that the tough loss in OT versus the Giants (that he helped cause) and you can see why he wanted to retire. However time went on and he felt better and wanted another shot. I think a lot of us find ourselves finding renewed interest in something after getting space from it for a while.

    The only place I see Favre being selfish is wanting to come back as the starter but if he hadn't retired he would have been the starter anyway. Because of that I don't understand how the Packers can say Rodgers is better for the job where if Favre hadn't retired he would be the starter. This is all a power play from Thompson because he was tired of Favre being bigger than him in GB. Favre is a big time QB he is a diva but so are the rest.

    The Packers owe him for saving their franchise from mediocrity the last 2 decades and they repay him like this. Well I say shame on them. :pity:
     
  19. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    I say Favre is selfish because this isn't the only year that he has done this. For the last 4 years he has had Green Bay wrapped around his finger because all of the decisions were based on whether or not he was retiring in that particular offseason. And this is the only year that Favre actually made up his mind early in the offseason, only to renege on it later and attempt a comeback.

    Favre doesn't care about his team. He cried like a little girl when the team didn't go after Randy Moss. Look at how the team played without Moss BTW. He shows that he doesn't care about the team by wanting to play as a starter on a different team rather than be a team player and do what he's asked by GB management.
     
  20. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    I agree the year where he drug out his decision until like July was selfish but what he is doing now isn't and to me they are not interrelated. The guy wants to play and he wants to play for the Packers but the Packers don't won't him. So he can stay retired or he can move to a team that wants him. He's not betraying the fans because the Packers are forcing him to leave if he wants to play, so the blame is on the Packers if Favre is in another uniform next year.

    Look at it this way, if this was 1999 and Marino decided that he wanted to come back but in response the Fins organization said no, Jay Fiedler was the man for the future. After Marino tried to work with the organization to come back as a Fin and the organization told him to F off, if he wanted to play for someone else how could I blame him; I would blame the organization. Wouldn't you?
     
  21. cnc66

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    I keep hoping the Florida lotto will do exactly that someday...
     
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  22. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    No, because prior to 1999, Marino never pulled that bull**** once. Farve, that stat chasing selfish prick has been doing it for almost half a decade. every damn off-season, "this is it, Im done" with tears in his eyes. and then come july he changes his tune. do you have any idea how hard that must be on the front office?

    and what has farve saved green Bay from? They won a superbowl with him, also with a huge supporting cast of talent from Reggie White to Sterling Sharpe. it wasnt just on his shoulders. and prior to mike mcarthy, the packers have SUCKED. Coach rebuilt that team into a winner, and if the Dallas game is any sort of barometer, its INSPITE of Farve.
    Say what you will, if he takes the money, he's a piece of ****. He's holding the Packers up at gun point, putting them over the railing, and giving it to them where the sun dont shine.

    He's pissing all over what is becoming a joke of a stubborn, selfish legacy. And he's pissing on the franchise that stood behind him when he went away to rehab, and all the times he's had family and personal issues.

    Marino, Elway...those guys announced their retirement, didn't shed a tear. didn't sit there and blubber like an idiot. (not that theres anything wrong with emotion). they said they were done, and god damn it, they were honest and were men about it. farve has done this blubbering tearful good-bye garbage for more years than the average man plays in this damn league.
     
  23. Jaydog57

    Jaydog57 Canes/Fins/Magic fan

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    Whatever. You play that long and see how much you really miss it when you're gone. Especially when you get that close to going to the Superbowl. Whatever happens, nobody's going to remember your boy Ted Thompson in 20 years. If Brett Favre ends up playing somewhere else I hope he does well and shoves it down their ****ing throat. And I hope that worthless **** Ted chokes on it.:shifty:
     
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  24. unluckyluciano

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    Not from what I remember, from what I remember, he was asked and said he had to talk to his family about it. That is all.
    Given last years performance I don't think you can honestly believe that.
     
  25. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    what year are we talking about 2001? this year he said he was done, and actually retired...hence the whole goodell having to reinstate him "thing".

    and his performance last year was solid, but that team was amazing. every facet of the packers game was awesome. ryan grant exploded, the defense was lights out. the one opportunity to compare the two, Rogers out performed Farve in Dallas.
     
  26. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    and the same to his 52 other teammates who are getting splattered with his shrapnel.
     
  27. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    sooooooooo once is 7 years?


    Yeah well I suppose you can keep chalking it up to everyone but him. That seems fair.
     
  28. Jaydog57

    Jaydog57 Canes/Fins/Magic fan

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    I seriously doubt that, although I do feel bad for Aaron Rodgers. He's kinda stuck in the middle of all this. Well that's all for me. I'm not going to get agitated over a debate on a team I don't even really watch, cause at the end of the day I'm still a Dolphins fan. It's been real.:up:
     
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  29. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I wouldn't be surprised if all 52 other teammates chipped in to that $20 mil to make him stay retired.
     
  30. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    hey, i said he was solid. and theres been many a draft the packers went into, not knowing where Farve stood.
     
  31. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    whatever. I hate you.
     
  32. Sethdaddy8

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    :hump:
     
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  33. Desides

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    It sounds to me as if you have man-love for Favre and man-hate for Thompson. I can't explain that reply any other way. You're going on emotion rather than reason.

    As for getting close to the Super Bowl... were you watching the same NFC Championship Game I was? Favre is directly responsible for the Packers NOT getting to the Super Bowl! Meanwhile, when Rodgers had to replace Favre against the Cowboys, he was arguably better. If the Rodgers that shows up in 2008 is the same Rodgers that showed up against the Cowboys, then that team won't skip a beat.

    Brett Favre is done. He knew he was done after last year. The reason he thinks he isn't done now is because there's no one available who can say to him "No, Brett. You can't do it anymore."
     
  34. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    He'd be a upgrade over Jackson.
     
  35. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I read that Favre is considering spurning the retirement offer of $20 million and considering playing again.
     
  36. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Well a post from a Packer site stated their trying to work out some things for this "contract"

    Like if Rodgers goes down he can comeback and play, sit out the 08 season but outright release in 09.
     
  37. alen1

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    That would be pointless, he still ends up with the Vikings. Why don't they just release him now if they plan on doing that?
     
  38. Jaydog57

    Jaydog57 Canes/Fins/Magic fan

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    Just get tired of people hating on a good quarterback. I've never heard people say much bad about him at all until this crap came up.Yeah I watched the same game, how much closer than overtime in the NFC Championship game can you get besides actually going to the Superbowl? Yeah it was his fault they didn't make it, but it was also partly his fault that they got that far. Maybe Aaron Rodgers can do better this year, but I doubt it. You'll have to pardon me for having a little respect for a qb with such an amazing career that started out dirt poor and worked really hard and became a Hall of Famer. As I said in my last post, I'm done with this crap. I'm a Dolphins fan first so I'll let my blood pressure go up arguing for a team I watch. BTW, I don't have man-love for anybody, so no need to make personal jabs. Have a nice day:up:
     
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    I don't blame him if he is indeed taking the money. Get paid to sit on my *** is great.
     

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