Hot new trade rumors!!! Dallas interested in Lamar Miller?

forte looked washed up to me.

 

i wanted to sign ivory 2 seasons ago, but I think we gotta see where Millers talent is going, he's very young and now has all the experience, I know I'm not the only one who gets baffled from time to time when I look at that 5.1 average, either lazor is genius in the running game or miller had subtleties that are hard to evaluate.

 

To me, look at Miller's FA season, this yr, then decide if he is worth a draft choice or let him have a "career yr" then let him walk

 

That sounds solid

 

Yeah sure. Let's trade Miller, and then just sign Ricky back out of retirement. I'm fine with that. It's a win win!

 

I don't want to trade him, but yeah kinda his fault.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article4706007.html

For someone who said they should go after Tre Mason that would make me very happy (owner of his in a dynasty league) but they need to keep him in case Gurley is not ready to go.

 

Let's not continue the debate on more runs = wise production for Miller. That went nowhere, and people couldn't understand part of the argument against that being true.

 

if theyre willing to part with one of those guards... count me in..

 

Well, to say it's not his fault but through 14 weeks it was 2.8 ypc ... meanwhile Moreno in his first game ever runs 24 times. Just saying ...

But you don't trade him unless they blow us away with an offer

 

Well they did just sign Collins so it's definitely possible. I wouldn't mind rolling with Ajayi and Williams if we get a nice Cowboys offensive lineman.

 

I for one, want Miller resigned..He gets better every year and he is a valuable part of our offense..I am kinda hoping that we could go ahead and lock him up this year.

 

We have enough cap to do it.

 

Kind of his fault? Where is the evidence against him, to support that? Seems like you could blame the scheme, adjustments, play calling, etc... as much as anything else. If Lamar Miller is partially to blame, I think his new weight gain could help.

 

This is where Cautious Coach Joe hurts the franchise, Miller was ineffective for 2 yrs, effective one yr, now is poised to head into FA..Thanks Joe

 

Fun stuff..Miller for Collins straight up trade?

 

You are so right about this^

 

I think it's possible but more likely to be an older offensive lineman with a larger contract unless we sweeten the deal. Collins is too good of a deal for them to trade.

 

That would be my offer, avoid Miller's FA, lock up Collins for 4 years, Cowpokes get a ready to play Rb with big play potential on the cheap.

 

Keep in mind, Miller worked off of the passing game, when THill could not hurt D's deep to Wallace it meant the D can pack the box to stop him...forcing us to play dink dunk and playing to the D's favor

 

If we trade miller i hope is to the vikings for A. peterson or a pick that we can later trade to the vikings for peterson. If we aint getting a replacement for miller for this season then forget it. I really want AP to join the dolphins he had a year off after winning MVP with manning. He can have another beast season with us n help us reach the playoffs n maybe win a superbowl.

 

He tailed off on carries 11-20. It is what it is.

The funny thing is, he gained weight from 2012 to 2013 already. Miller did not have a tailoff in 2013, but did in 2014. Fluke? Possibly. But it'll be interesting to see how he does this year 11-20 with even more weight gain. He doesn't have a big frame. Wonder if it'll affect him. I'm keeping an eye on it.

 

I'd be generally inconsolable for a good while...

 

More often than not this is a statistical anomaly made possible by small sample sizes.

I mean, we're not even talking about a pronounced difference in 2014. From 5.3 yards per carry to 4.7 yards per carry is nothing. I mean you said it yourself, it wasn't the case in 2013. If you're going to attach statistical significance to such weak trends you'd have looked at the 2013 data and swore that Lamar Miller is one of those backs that gets stronger the more times he touches the ball (which is kind of a myth IMO). And in fact I do remember people saying that as they shouted for him to get more carries. Suddenly he's a guy that tails off with more carries?

Statistical hocum due to small sample sizes, IMO.

 

How often, also, did the oline play a factor by not holding blocks in the second half of games, when we wanted to run? If the RB is getting hit in the backfield, it's hard to blame the running back for the loss.

 

Won't happen. Not even sure you are allowed under league rules to trade a rookie UDFA. But listening to the reports, Jerry went balls to the wall all out to get Collins - he was wanted and is not going anywhere. If anyone, it would be Leary (the "other" OG).

 

I would trade Lamar Miller for a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat. He's probably going to be too expensive to keep after this season anyway.

 

1st, 2nd & 4th. LOL

 

You wouldn't trade him for the Cowboys 2nd round pick?

 

For one bro, it's 2015. LOL

#2 we got a new 3 down RB named Jay Ajayi. A second round pick for Lamar Miller is good value for us.

 

Lamar did us pretty solidly last year, but he really doesn't thrill me. Doesn't run w/ power and not that good at making people miss or catching the ball. Quite fast so that is nice. Give him a crease and he can gash a D.

 

Through 14 games. It was 4.7 only because of that run in the last game, in a meaningless game. But through the heart of the season it was 2.5 ypc (through 14 games, I didn't calculate game 15) . You can't tell me that isn't a significant drop. Almost 3 ypc.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article4706007.html

So it was a trend for a whole year, not one game. Or a few games. Of course I did entertain the fact it may be a fluke (it happens) when I said, it may be a fluke. Because he didn't have this problem in 2013. Before 2014 Philbin said he wanted Miller to be more powerful. Much was said about his weight gain to 225 this year. Well he gained weight last year too, from 212 to 220. That's why I'm going to keep an eye on it, to see if it was an anomaly or his weight gain.

http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachp...p-or-hurt-dolphins-running-back-lamar-miller/

Isn't it curious they rarely gave him more than 15 carries but give Moreno 24 his very first game ever? Miller never hit 20 this year, only carrying more than 15, four times, and that's without Moreno. Why?

I'm still a fan of his, but at 225 we're talking 13lbs more than his previous starting weight. Which could be fine. Or not. We'll see next year! As a huge fan of his I've held him on a dynasty league for 3 straight years. Screaming at the TV for them to run it more Picked him up in another keeper league but parlayed him into Mike Evans before Evans blew up (Michael Floyd screwed me). So I'm a fan for multiple reasons. I'd like to see him carry it more though. But Philbin likes his 40/60 ratio of run/pass so it is what it is.

 

You, my friend, will be pleasantly surprised.

 

this would imply Ajayi will be the bell cow this year. Which, he will not it'll be a split. I'd bet all the money in the world that Miller out runs Ajayi as well, baring injury.

 

We ain't getting their 1st. And I wouldn't settle for less than a #2.

 

If we know for a fact we're not resigning Miller I'd give him up for a 2. If we're waiting and seeing I wouldn't. RBs still have been devalued. A workhorse like Mark Ingram can be had for $4m