Don't need stats for this: Should have been in the playoffs the last two years. Fault we aren't: Tannehill. Played some of the worst football of his average career.
So QBs can't improve, according to you???? because RTH has improved EVERY YEAR. Look at all those stats yourself, genius.
The fact that this debate exists proves RT is not the future. This debate does not exist for: Wilson Luck Wilson has better passing stats (a running QB) on a run first team, then Tannehill!!!!!!!!!!!!
So let's completely ignore Tannehills last season which had 4000+ yards and stats almost identical to the QB who just won the Superbowl. Because Tannehill didn't play AS well in his first 2 years, he is a bust. Nevermind that even the best QBs in history had mostly shakey or downright awful first and second years in the NFL Or that Henne has never improved at all, in 7 years of football, and Tannehill has ONLY improved year to year. So much logic.
That's sooooo tough in this league where they aren't allowed to play defense. Know what Tannehill hasn't improved at..... making the playoffs. Showing up for games with playoff implications. Know who doesn't have that problem? Luck Wilson
I've actually done NOTHING BUT refute everything you said with actual facts, not just spew bias nonsense like an angry fan who has no clue what he's talking about. You're getting smoked, champ.
omg. HOW COULD I FORGET? The nfl doesn't even have teams. It's literally only QBs playing 1 on 1s every sunday.
Lol, so a crazy person running around saying the world is flat can now prove his insanity by saying it must be true otherwise he wouldn't be saying it? Mods have to realize you're trolling by now.
IF I make a defense you will just call it an excuse and throw more strawmans. Like you do every thread. It's like talking to OMAR ffs.
You're gunna make this too easy. Who IS a franchise QB in the nfl? PLEASE enlighten us so we can smack you down again. Tell this thread right now who YOU THINK is a franchise QB in the NFL today. Name all of them that you can. Atleast 8 or so. This will be great. Because no matter who you name, Their first years will look Just like Tannehills. Some worse, Some better. So BACK THEN, you would have said the same stuff about them and would look like a moron today.
It's just funny how a running QB like Wilson who has no targets to throw the ball to. On less passing attempts can have more touchdowns than tannehill. And can move his offense down the field. And can show up when the game is on the line, and can show up when the seasons on the line, and can get his team to the playoffs. And our guys cant.
There's no argument to refute. You literally invented a benchmark out of thin air. You are making stuff up and then saying anything that shows that fantasy to be wrong is not true.
It's just funny how you think an entire NFL team is ran by the QB himself, who also dictates how the entire season turns out, by himself.
There aren't even 8, but because of the lack of franchise QB's. Doesn't mean u sign a non franchise QB to a huge deal. Manning, Brady, Wilson, Luck, Brees, Rodgers. Locks as franchise QB Case can be made for big ben,
It's just funny how it's only a problem here, and it's never the QB's fault. It's funny how all of a sudden seattle is a superbowl contender when Wilson takes over.
Are you aware of what those QBs first 2-3 years stats look like? ALL STATS including QBR? You are a walking contradiction.
OK that's half the equation. Now also tell me what those QB's did in their first 3 years. Where did their teams end up? Making the playoffs? Or watching from home?
It's the QBs fault all the time. You're making that up. This board is WAY harsh on RTH when he does bad. So I guess you walked away from the TV when our defense was giving up 40 points a game and giving away leads that RTH got them in the first place right? Basically, your argument is that Tannehill went to denver and put up 36 points, but HE'S NOT A FRANCHISE QB because he didn't put up 40. That is the equivalent of what you are saying.
Did the TEAMS make the playoffs or did the QBs do it in a 1v11 ?????. Serious question. Does any QB have help from their teams? Ever?????????
HAHAHAHA best thing I read all day. After a bad game by RT. The excuse machine revs up. Philbin... o line.... defense..... refs.... WR. The denver game was great. I'm not saying he doesn't have great games. But he has more average and more bad.
Here, let's make an argument like Marino1385 does. I'm sure others will join in. Step 1) So first, I have to make an outlandish statement: Marino1385 has never watched a football game but is a Jets fan. Step 2) Now, I have to invent a benchmark that I decide proves the above statement: Anyone that puts the numbers 1,3, 8 & 5 in their screen name is a Jet's fan whose never watched football. Step 3) Now I claim since this up for debate it must true. Step 4) Anyone who doesn't argue the specifics of my made up benchmark is admitting it is true. Step 5) If they do argue it, just keep repeating the argument till they stop, then see Step 4.
It's funny you keep going back to that. The states of those teams aren't perfect, but those QB's worked with what they had, and found ways to win. Ours doesn't. You know I'm right, it's the best part.
Think you could make a strong argument that those teams would have been better off going another route.
If you don't think this board trashes Tannehill when he does bad, then you browse here with your eyes closed, or just have never visited a game day thread. I'm glad the truth is the best thing you've read all day, because that analogy is so spot on it's not even funny. So in your opinion, it's Tannehills fault we lost to DEN, GB, and DET, right? If not you're contradicting yourself.
OMG. You use Wilson as an example and then say "he worked with what he had". LOL. I'm sure it was SO challenging for Wilson to work with arguably the best RB and Best Defense in the NFL. Everyone here knows you're wrong, except you. Which is the comedy.