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Charlotte, from what I can see, is not a GREAT wrestler. She is very athletic, and obviously, she has a golden, built-in fast track due to her pedigree. But she isn't as good as the WWE is trying to make her out to be. Bayley and Sasha are better, all around performers.

But as a point of clarification, just because I think she is overrated, I do not think she sucks. She is still light years ahead of the last generation of divas (including AJ Lee) and will most likely have a long career, if she chooses to do so. Her technical skills are simply, okay. Sasha and Bayley are far more natural in the ring, and I think that shows.

 

Haha it's not a narrative if it's true.

Also there could be problems with the stock soon:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2872636-wwe-burning-through-cash-and-running-out-of-options

 

Fight! Sick, Fight!

 

I disagree with the author of that piece. Maybe that author should own a business before he writes about it. Typical stock monkey BS.

 

That tag team tormoil match from Smackdown was incredible story telling, and awesome television. Great stuff!


Also unrelated from ROH amazing spots!

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Stock always goes up around this time of year, after WM it will go down again

 

That Flair/HHH segment was really well done.

Say what you want about the WWE, but they have done a great job of building up Rusev. Rollins, Ambrose and a few others get the praise (and rightfully so) but WWE has done a masterful job of building Rusev up as a monster, an undefeated done at that (without making his entire gimmick about his unbeaten streak).

They have also done a good job with the Goldust/Stardust angle despite the obvious outcome. I think they have handled it about as well as they can and still keep it entertaining. The angle of Cody being off his rocker so much that even GOLDUST is concerned, is a nice touch. The next step is for him to best Goldie at WM, and make Stardust even more sinister. Have the makeup become smeared on some appearances and him being very slow, methodical and brooding, and have him with pristine makeup and a more upbeat wrestler at other times. Essentially a Manic Depressive. I would be interested to see what Cody could do with it. Essentially half Heath Ledger Joker/ half Cesar Romero Joker.

 

Yeah I am a fan of both Cody and goldust so I am actually excited for this feud and match at WM

 

Eh I think it's too little too late with Cody and Goldust, it should have happened last year when people really cared about them. Now both guys are pretty stale since they haven't really done anything meaningful since they lost the tag titles to the NAO last year.

Agreed about Rusev but again not sure how over he actually is or its just heat because he's anti-American and what his future in the WWE is. Also is it just me or does it annoy others that he doesn't wear boots, him with bare feet just seems strange.

 

I know we (rightfully) give a bunch of **** to creative and to WWE.....however, its been real good recently, I know I know, Wrestlemania season....however...Theres a chance, if rumors are true, that for the first time we will have someone main eventing WM who is younger than the event itself (Reigns). Seth Rollins is a mega star. Bray Wyatt, Rusev, Ambrose, Cesaro, Bryan, are all young 30s or younger. Hell Randy Orton seems like hes been here forever, and hes the same age as Ziggler (34).

Not to mention Owens, Zayn, Balor, Kenta, Neville......the next 10 years is going to be insane in the wrestling world.

The **** Bryan and Reigns are doing right now is gold. Everything has been great, Bryan has gotten even more over in my eyes with his cockiness, his smug attitude....his confidence knowing hes been to the top and knows what it takes unlike Reigns. Roman is so much better as the quiet, assassin tweener. Thats his role. Good move not having him on commentary last night. Then they sold it as "hes here to watch, he doesnt need to talk" type thing. The one thing I hate is Roman no-selling 2 chair shots last night, however Bryan seemed to be stiff a couple times with him for his trouble, blooding his mouth, which adds to the fuel.

I am terrified Shameus returns to screw Bryan over Sunday....but thats probably the case lol. Ziggler/Seth, ambrose/BNB....also happening at Fastlane.....Rusev/Cena....great stuff!

For a **** show in between Rumble and WM like Fastlane, its pretty cool. And I am glad it's not a gimmick ppv anymore like Elimination Chamber.

 

Lebby has on Shawn Michaels on now.

Great interview.

 

The talent is there, the creative isn't.

Perfect example, the WWE has been protecting the crap out of Reigns since he has been brought up full time in 2012, and rightfully so. But what do they do the minute he gets put in the main event at WM? Have him job to the Big Show on RAW, seriously, it was the first time Reigns has been pinned in over 2 years, how the hell do you expect people to get behind him or the company to sell Reigns as a threat to Brock? Even last night's RAW, Reigns beats Kane by count out. Reigns should be destroying the Big Shows and Kanes of the WWE on his way to WM, instead he's getting exposed. Makes no sense. Then they wonder why fans don't get behind these guys, it's too much 50/50 booking.

 

Maybe I am being a mark. But dude. I really think bryan is going over reigns. Bryan has mainevented everything since his return. I know reigns won the rumble but damn that got burned and Vince prides himself in listening to the crowd. Bryan has been pushed to the moon since.

Hopefully he's not being used to catapult reigns which he may be. I am too optimistic. But I hope they're doing the right thing.


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I hope you're right but I just think this is a way for the WWE to shut up the smarks by saying "hey we gave Bryan a shot" now it's time to move on.

I'd be very shocked if Bryan won on Sunday.

 

Me too. But I'd also be surprised if it's not a dirty finish making it a 3way for mania.


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I really hope not. I'm kind of sick of the triple threat matches for awhile, especially since we have already seen a damn good one at the Rumble. If they are going to do a triple threat, might as well add Rollins or someone else and make it a 4 way since there hasn't been one at a WM since 16.

 

Really would love with all of this building up with bryan and reigns. And they work together to take out brock. Then have an epic battle with either winning. Exhausted. Brock is furious. Destroys the winner. Rollins cashes in and wins. Building a feud with either reigns or bryan. Reigns would be an awesome story. Bryan would be an awesome fued for matches. Amazing.


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Samoa Joe and TNA parted ways today. Mildly interesting.

 

Apparently Rhyno is back with the WWE on NXT and THE Brian Kendrick will also be returning to NXT next week.

 

So according to people who handle WM advertising they are being told the WM main event will be Lesnar vs. Reigns vs. Bryan. Ugh.

Also the general feeling now is that Brock is going to resign with the WWE.

 

Yeah I was gunna say Brock is leaning towards staying due to concussion issues going back to UFC....

I like the 3 way if they do it correctly. WM is a huge stage, and all 3 of those guys are huge draws at the moment.

It's not Cena, so I am happy lol.

 

Imagine if Reigns wins, Rollins comes to cash in.....does so...Ambrose screws him keeping his promise, leading to a 3 way shield battle at WM 32

lol

 

Would much rather see Reigns/Lesnar then a 3 way. That match would be super interesting just based on train wreck value alone.

 

So CM Punk and Colt Cabana are getting sued by the WWE doctor who they bashed during their podcast:

http://www.sportingnews.com/sport/s...awsuit-colt-cabana-chris-amann-nelson-frazier

 

JR was asked about it and he said "No surprise"

Wonder if that means no surprise punk is being sued, or no surprise that the WWE Dr is going through with this? He wouldn't elaborate.

And hes been doing some side work with WWE recently (JR) so I doubt hes burning any bridges....

 

I'm assuming he means no surprise Punk is being sued and that the WWE DR is going through with this. I mean you can't make a big claim like Punk did, which was basically malpractice, and not expect a reaction from the DR even if Punk is 100% correct and telling the truth.

 

Hey there, i really like to read what you guys post in this thread. Sometimes it's like fantasy raw and I love it.

Anyhow do you think bray wyatt is actually talking to the undertaker in his latest promos?

Take care

 

I think so. But they're keeping it a mystery in case Taker can't go come March. Supposedly Jake Roberts said he wants to face him at WM 32 lol.

 

Yeah the rumor for the last few months is that the WWE wants a Bray/Undertaker WM match which is why Bray has been booked super strong beating guys like Ambrose and Bryan and going far in the Rumble. Although apparently the WWE hasn't gotten official word if the Undertaker will even wrestle (or be able to since the last few photos of him make he continue to look extremely old and sickly) at the event. If for some reason Taker doesn't wrestle, I think Bray would most likely face Randy Orton.

I think right now the WM32 plan is for Taker to have his last match in Texas against Cena.

 

The WWE responded to the DR/Punk/Colt lawsuit, obviously backing their doctor:

http://www.sportingnews.com/sport/s...ement-cm-punk-chris-amann-lawsuit-colt-cabana

Also interesting that they posted a video from the Rumble on their YouTube channel with extreme close ups of Punk's back.

Can't wait to hear Punk's and/or Colt's response, if they even do.

Edit: here's the YouTube video posted

[video=youtube_share;alLmQFx801M]http://youtu.be/alLmQFx801M[/video]

 

I just clicked on this thread for the first time ever. And I'm flat shocked that there's actual discussion happening in here that looks like discussion that happens in other threads.

 

Wyatt's recent promos are an homage to the early Undertaker promos where he used to build caskets for his opponents. Wyatt is building a casket, as well. So yes, he is gearing up for a WM run against Taker.

 

Please give me a thorough breakdown on Dean Ambrose hips and low center of gravity when running ropes, and we've gone full-circle...

 

Watched Fast Lane with very high reluctance, still disappointed Roman Reigns is getting pushed heavy. Will probably tune in for WM only to watch Sting perform.

 

I thought Fastlane was overall a very RAWish PPV nothing special at all, just kind of there. Although the crowd was completely dead all night and all the finishes were crap. If you didn't see it, you don't have to.

The 6 man match was ok however I still don't understand how/why in 2015 either Kane or Big Show are scoring pin fall victories on PPVs, especially over Ziggler. It's got to be the WWE trolling the fans.

But hey Orton is back. I think the only thing that would make me cancel the WWE Network would be if Orton forms a stable with Kane, Big Show and Sheamus.

The Goldust/Stardust match was pretty boring, again they waited a year too late to have people care about this feud. But Goldust and Dusty did have a great promo before the match and I actually wish that promo factored into the match instead of the roll up finish.
The tag team title match was ok. Glad Kidd and Cesaro got the win and hopefully they get an extended run with the belts before the Usos win them back yet again.

The Triple H/Sting interview was ok, got the point across and I'm glad they didn't have Sting say anything. Man thought Sting is showing his age big time. Hopefully Triple H has his working boots on at WM.

Paige/Bella match, eh. Next.

Ambrose/BNB match was just there. Again a typical RAW match. Ambrose losing streak in PPV matches continues and it's been 9 PPVs of straight losses.

Cena/Rusev match was pretty good although I was actually rooting for Cena here simply because although they have built up Rusev well this year I really don't see where the character can really go. I don't think we'll ever get WWE Champion Rusev and again I question how much heat he would be having if he wasn't anti-American. Oh well Cena will get his W back at WM.

Bryan/Reigns match was probably the match of the night thanks to Bryan working his butt off. Once again Reigns was completely exposed by his lack of offense there. Can't wait for the train wreck Lesnar/Reigns match at WM simply because I just hated the idea of yet another Triple Threat match.

 

Man last night sucked. The crowd was ****ing awful. The endings were predictable as hell for a filler ppv before mania.

The wyatt thing was awesome...trolled the hell out of the WWE universe. Other than Wyatt and Bryan stealing the show. I hated it.

Now where does Bryan go? Obviously Shameus or a surprise come back (Rock/Bryan or Austin/Bryan) who knows...WWE sucks right now. Bring on NXT.

 

Come on now, you really think the WWE would bring The Rock or Austin back to face Daniel Bryan? It speaks volumes as to what they think of Bryan, there's no way they're going to put him in a match with either of those guys.

Bryan will face either Sheamus or Ziggler, I'd guess.

 

Didn't see the show as I had a stand-up gig (where posters of Mick Foley were everywhere as he is doing a show at the same venue next month during Wrestlemania Week), but it sounded like a filler PPV. Which is exactly what this PPV is, and has always been. At least with The Elimination Chamber match, you had SOMETHING to look forward to with the gimmick. I think the only other sizeable thing to happen at the February PPV was when Eddie G. beat Brock in San Francisco for the title. Otherwise, it is simply a necessary evil for the WWE to put this event on. At least for now. If the WWE Channel ever truly takes off, I could see them possibly dropping it and running a super RAW or something to accomplish the same thing.

From what I have read, Reigns looked pretty good, mainly on account of Bryan being Bryan. I expect the Main Event to be STIFF at Wrestlemania as I think Brock is going to have to carry that match (which he is more than capable of doing).

I like Rusev, but no way he is winning at WM over Cena. The anti-American gimmick is probably starting to near its end, and in fact, I think the WWE recognizes that too. I look for a slight repackaging after Wrestlemania. They will have to have him attack someone (possibly female?) and go from there. I do think he would make for a credible challenger/champion for the off months. A Reigns/Rusev match for the title could absolutely work. I also wouldn't mind a Rusev/Bryan program.

I don't care about Orton. I am intrigued by Sheamus, assuming he comes back as a surprise heel.

Bray Wyatt needs to beat Undertaker at WM. That would be two losses in a row, but it lends itself to an awesome story about how the formally unbeatable is now unable to win. Plus, it gives Wyatt some much needed credibility and a signature win. Granted, the shine is a little less because Brock beat UT already. But running a storyline where Brock beat the Streak, but Bray broke the man, totally works for Bray's character. Sets up a nice retirement match at WM 32 too, where he ends his losing streak and walks out on top (I would even consider letting him retire as CHAMPION, then hold a tournament to crown the vacated title at the PPV after WM32).

Ambrose losing doesn't matter. He has the closest career resemblance to Austin than anyone I have seen. Austin lost a ton of matches but still came out smelling like roses. Ambrose will be fine.

Sting/HHH sounded interesting. I have always been a Sting mark so I do want to see this match. It certainly has a big match feel to it. I think spending too much time on WCW is a mistake, though. That ship has sailed. It should be more about Sting doing what he always does, standing up for what is right. As someone else said, he is essentially a goth boy scout. The Sledgehammer/Baseball bat standoff sounded like a cool idea. I almost think you have to make this match a No DQ to hide Sting a little bit. Either way, it will be awesome to be in attendance for his first (and possibly only) match in the WWE.

I actually think the card for WM looks fairly solid. I assume Orton faces Rollins, Sheamus faces Bryan (those are good matches, both of them), on top of what we already know.

 

I totally disagree on the Ambrose front. Not only does Ambrose keep losing in PPV matches but the way he loses is comically bad. From getting DQed for no reason, to slipping on the banana peel and getting fluke losses it does nothing to help his character. At least when Austin lost there was an actual reason why and the losses made sense and help build his character.

As far as Austin goes, once he dropped the "Ringmaster" gimmick and became "Stone Cold" the only PPV matches he lost before he became the MEGA star (basically from March 1996 to April 1998 when he finally won the WWF title) was to Savio Vega in a strap match at the May '96 PPV where they explained that Austin threw the match on purpose to get rid of Ted Dibiase as his manager, Survivor Series 1996 & WM13 to Bret Hart that were such great matches that it turned Austin into a bigger star, May 1997 to Undertaker due to the Hart Foundation interference to set up the next month's PPV and the July 1997 PPV where Austin was pinned in the 10 man tag match so he could start a program with Owen and win the IC title.

You really can't compare Austin losing to Bret Hart in 2 matches that were considered all time greats or losing to the WWF Champion Undertaker at a throwaway PPV to Ambrose having a TV blown up in his face against Wyatt or getting DQed for no reason against Barrett. If Ambrose was having 5 star classics and just barely coming up short against established main eventers but looking like a million bucks in the process it would be one thing, but he's not. He's looking like a goof.

I personally think the WWE has done a really poor job building up Ambrose, he was super over in the fall and the WWE basically killed all his heat. Now he's just another guy in the upper card instead of possibly having a legit main eventer for Brock to face at WM this year. And fans have started to notice he's been losing all of his big matches.

I suspect it will lead to him winning the IC title at WM and then continue to lose every match he's in until he finally loses the IC title because that's how the IC champion has been treated for the last 10 plus years.

 

Bushwhackers are going into the WWE HOF. Because if Koko B Ware is then why not them?

Word is Kevin Nash will also be going in this year.