Hickey And Wallace Had A Sit Down To Discuss Future

They don't have to be attempted frequently to have its impact, one completion and its 6, not only do we avoid those shots, I don't believe we've completed one in stride, maybe a couple underthrown ones, and one in the run that was special..flacco, Berger, Rogers, they all fire iver 30 yards in the air at least 20 to 25 times a season.

 

They don't have to be attempted frequently to have its impact, one completion and its 6, not only do we avoid those shots, I don't believe we've completed one in stride, maybe a couple underthrown ones, and one in the run that was special..flacco, Berger, Rogers, they all fire over 30 yards in the air at least 20 to 25 times a season.

 

They don't have to be attempted frequently to have its impact, one completion and its 6, not only do we avoid those shots, I don't believe we've completed one in stride, maybe a couple underthrown ones, the runat was special..flacco, Berger, Rogers, they all fire over 30 yards in the air at least 20 to 25 times a season.

 

They don't have to be attempted frequently to have its impact, one completion and its 6, not only do we avoid those shots, I don't believe we've completed one in stride, maybe a couple underthrown ones, the runat was special..flacco, Berger, Rogers, they all fire over 30 yards in the air at least 20 to 25 times a season.

 

Passers like Rogers, Berger, Flacco, attempt I would bet prolly around 25 to 30 of those attempts a year..

 

Ok well, beyond thirty yards in the air not only are we not attempting those plays but only a few have been completed in a three year span..those plays are whatI define as a good deep ball passer.

I would estimate that Rogers, Berger, flacco attempt about 25 to 30 a season..that ain't chump change.

 

Ok well, beyond thirty yards in the air not only are we not attempting those plays but only a few have been completed in a three year span..those plays are whatI define as a good deep ball passer.

I would estimate that Rogers, Berger, flacco attempt about 25 to 30 a season..that ain't chump change.

 

Ok well, over thirty in the air is what I would consider a deep ball, in order for it to have the residual affect your looking for, not only do we not attempt those variety but I believe we may of hit 3 of those in a three year span.

Flacco, Berger, Rogers, I would estimate attempt 25 to 30 a season..

 

As I've said before, a 21 yard comeback route where Hartline is facing the QB and waiting for a pass is different than hitting Wallace running a 9 route. Even Hartline running a 9 is easier than Wallace running it.

Vincent Jackson would have been awesome years ago when I advocated for him before we got Marshall. I think he's at the end of his career however, and they got Evans to replace him. Evans would have been awesome.

Mike Wallace needs someone with pinpoint deep accuracy. With him establishing a short/mid and red zone game I think he is now a most dangerous weapon ... for a better QB. Tannehill isn't it, and he's a better fit with someone else. Hell he might be perfect back in Pittsburgh now.

 

Exactly. A 20 yard pass is not a deep ball, yet people are using 20+ yard completions, not even air yards, just completions, as evidence.

And my favorite, the notion that our down field passing was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co before Wallace came along and messed things up. No mention of how the pass pro and running game took a nose dive the last two years, our deep game has fallen off because we signed one of the best deep threats in the game. I'm waiting to hear about how our run D fell off because of Wallace too.

 

Ok well, over thirty in the air is what I would consider a deep ball, in order for it to have the residual affect your looking for, not only do we not attempt those variety but I believe we may of hit 3 of those in a three year span.

Flacco, Berger, Rogers, I would estimate attempt 25 to 30 a season..

 

Exactly. A 20 yard pass is not a deep ball, yet people are using 20+ yard completions, not even air yards, just completions, as evidence.

And my favorite, the notion that our down field passing was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co before Wallace came along and messed things up. No mention of how the pass pro and running game took a nose dive the last two years, our deep game has fallen off because we signed one of the best deep threats in the game. I'm waiting to hear about how our run D fell off because of Wallace too.

 

As I've said before, a 21 yard comeback route where Hartline is facing the QB and waiting for a pass is different than hitting Wallace running a 9 route. Even Hartline running a 9 is easier than Wallace running it.

Vincent Jackson would have been awesome years ago when I advocated for him before we got Marshall. I think he's at the end of his career however, and they got Evans to replace him. Evans would have been awesome.

Mike Wallace needs someone with pinpoint deep accuracy. With him establishing a short/mid and red zone game I think he is now a most dangerous weapon ... for a better QB. Tannehill isn't it, and he's a better fit with someone else. Hell he might be perfect back in Pittsburgh now.

 

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As I've said before, a 21 yard comeback route where Hartline is facing the QB and waiting for a pass is different than hitting Wallace running a 9 route. Even Hartline running a 9 is easier than Wallace running it.

Vincent Jackson would have been awesome years ago when I advocated for him before we got Marshall. I think he's at the end of his career however, and they got Evans to replace him. Evans would have been awesome.

Mike Wallace needs someone with pinpoint deep accuracy. With him establishing a short/mid and red zone game I think he is now a most dangerous weapon ... for a better QB. Tannehill isn't it, and he's a better fit with someone else. Hell he might be perfect back in Pittsburgh now.

 

Exactly. We're counting 20 yard pass plays as deep balls now? LOL. Not even 20 air yards, just 20 yard completions. LOL.

And my favorite, the deep game was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co, before Wallace came along and messed it up. No mention of the pass pro, lack of run game, or defenses adjusting to Wallace being on the field, the problem with our deep game is that we added one of the league's best deep targets. I'm waiting to hear the theory on how the falloff in run defense was Wallace's fault too.

 

Exactly. We're counting 20 yard pass plays as deep balls now? LOL. Not even 20 air yards, just 20 yard completions. LOL.

And my favorite, the deep game was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co, before Wallace came along and messed it up. No mention of the pass pro, lack of run game, or defenses adjusting to Wallace being on the field, the problem with our deep game is that we added one of the league's best deep targets. I'm waiting to hear the theory on how the falloff in run defense was Wallace's fault too.

 

ok well, over thirty is what I would define as a deep pass and what constitutes a deep threat, and what provides a residual benefit from doing so.

I believe i can count on one hand how many times that has been executed in the past three years, 2 were under throws, I would also estimate that abs like Flacco, Berger, and rogers attempt about 25 to 30 a season...that aint chump change.

 

ok well, over thirty is what I would define as a deep pass and what constitutes a deep threat, and what provides a residual benefit from doing so.

I believe i can count on one hand how many times that has been executed in the past three years, 2 were under throws, I would also estimate that abs like Flacco, Berger, and rogers attempt about 25 to 30 a season...that aint chump change.

 

Exactly. We're counting 20 yard pass plays as deep balls now? LOL. Not even 20 air yards, just 20 yard completions. LOL.

And my favorite, the deep game was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co, before Wallace came along and messed it up. No mention of the pass pro, lack of run game, or defenses adjusting to Wallace being on the field, the problem with our deep game is that we added one of the league's best deep targets. I'm waiting to hear the theory on how the falloff in run defense was Wallace's fault too.

 

Exactly. We're counting 20 yard pass plays as deep balls now? LOL. Not even 20 air yards, just 20 yard completions. LOL.

And my favorite, the deep game was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co, before Wallace came along and messed it up. No mention of the pass pro, lack of run game, or defenses adjusting to Wallace being on the field, the problem with our deep game is that we added one of the league's best deep targets. I'm waiting to hear the theory on how the falloff in run defense was Wallace's fault too.

 

Exactly. We're counting 20 yard pass plays as deep balls now? LOL. Not even 20 air yards, just 20 yard completions. LOL.

And my favorite, the deep game was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co, before Wallace came along and messed it up. No mention of the pass pro, lack of run game, or defenses adjusting to Wallace being on the field, the problem with our deep game is that we added one of the league's best deep targets. I'm waiting to hear the theory on how the falloff in run defense was Wallace's fault too.

 

Exactly. We're counting 20 yard pass plays as deep balls now? LOL. Not even 20 air yards, just 20 yard completions. LOL.

And my favorite, the deep game was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co, before Wallace came along and messed it up. No mention of the pass pro, lack of run game, or defenses adjusting to Wallace being on the field, the problem with our deep game is that we added one of the league's best deep targets. I'm waiting to hear the theory on how the falloff in run defense was Wallace's fault too.

 

Exactly. We're counting 20 yard pass plays as deep balls now? LOL. Not even 20 air yards, just 20 yard completions. LOL.

And my favorite, the deep game was better with Hartline, Bess, Nannee & co, before Wallace came along and messed it up. No mention of the pass pro, lack of run game, or defenses adjusting to Wallace being on the field, the problem with our deep game is that we added one of the league's best deep targets. I'm waiting to hear the theory on how the falloff in run defense was Wallace's fault too.

 

Over 20 yards is, and should be, considered a deep pass.

 

Over 20 yards is, and should be, considered a deep pass.

 

Over 20 yards is, and should be, considered a deep pass.

 

Over 20 yards is, and should be, considered a deep pass.

 

Exactly.

Totally absurd to to imply that the deep game was better with in 2012 or that Wallace is the reason for any perceived dropoff. How bout the lack of pass pro or consistency in the run game? Nah. The problem with out deep game is that we signed one of the best deep threats in the leave. LOL. I'm waiting to hear how The falloff in run defense is also Wallace's fault.

 

Exactly.

Totally absurd to to imply that the deep game was better in 2012 or that Wallace is the reason for any perceived dropoff. How bout the lack of pass pro or consistency in the run game? Nah. The problem with the deep game is that we signed one of the best deep threats in the league. LOL. I'm waiting to hear how The falloff in run defense is also Wallace's fault.

 

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