"" Mike Wallace BETTER stay in Miami, that's my guy." Guess who?

I love that you guys will look at ypc for Wallace and marshall.

But not ypa for tannehill.

 

Both wr #'s went down.

 

The Marino dude is pretty clearly blaming Tannehill...

 

Have you seen anyone say that they want Tannehill's ypa to stay low? However, it's like the only thing you can really point to now where he, himself, was disappointing last year. Not wins or fourth quarter stats, as those are dependent on others.

Of course we want his ypa to come up.

 

Tannehill has never thrown a pass to Marshall... Just saying.

 

Seems to me you are being intentionally obtuse. You know what a QB rating is, right? Well, QB rating when throwing to a specific receiver is calculated the same way, but includes only the passes thrown to whatever specific receiver you're talking about.

 

Sure, and so what does it mean, for example, that Ryan Tannehill's QB rating when throwing to Mike Wallace in 2013 was a measly 59, yet a much higher 114 in 2014?

 

It means that whatever they were doing in 2014 was much better than what they were doing in 2013. It also means that Tannehill was very successful throwing to Mike Wallace in 2014.

 

Because Tanny sucks at throwing the long ball to someone fast like Mike Wallace, and if they're running the routes Wallace runs. They eliminated that this year, because Tanny can't do it. So magically the QBR goes up.

 

I do think that there is some merit to the idea that Wallace doesn't look open enough to Tannehill early in his route, so he goes on to his next progression. So, even though Tannehill may watch film, where he sees Wallace come open, he may lack the confidence/trust to just chuck it up there for Wallace go get it. I'm hopeful that if that is the case, that he can get over that, and start just putting the ball up and trust him.

 

I've been saying this since last year. Tanny waits until Wallace is open before pulling the trigger. He's still young, so it's not a terrible thing. But if he anticipated it better (recognizing Wallace will have a step on the DB before he actually passes him), and if he was confident Wallace would break up a pass or fight for it if he didn't get open (Wallace's fault) I think he would have been better.

 

22.2% of Wallace's targets in 2014 were deep (20+ yards in the air), and 26.3% of them were in 2013. Wallace was targeted deep less than one fewer time per game in 2014 than he was in 2013. In other words, there wasn't a significant difference in how Wallace was targeted deep between 2013 and 2014.

 

You are attempting to use a moderately advanced stat to spew a bunch of bull****.

He had a 7.6 YPT in Miami in two years.

He has a 7.6 YPT in Chicago in three years.

How bout this....he had 9 TD's in Miami...31 in Chicago.

167 catches in Miami and 279 in Chicago...

you see...if you are going to use a moderately advanced stat, you should know that the larger sample size that holds the same number while producing much more in boxscore stats...is the BETTER SAMPLE.

He got better in Chicago. He was clearly better in Denver as well. There is no debate about this.

 

Receptions per target were 0.6 in Denver, 0.58 in Miami, and 0.6 in Chicago.

Yards per target were 7.42 in Denver, 7.76 in Miami, and 7.63 in Chicago.

TDs per target were 0.05 in Denver, 0.03 in Miami, and 0.07 in Chicago.

 

And that's probably a "maybe," since in some cases Wallace may not pass the DB at any point in the route, and may never get separation. If he were better at route-running, he would get separation sooner, and his speed would only increase that separation as the route progressed.

 

And that trumps the stats he just posted?? Cmon now.

 

That crappy route runner had a pretty good year being forced to grab 800+yds and 10tds on comebacks and hook routes. Weird

 

I suppose it all depends on how much meaning you prefer to assign to the number of times a receiver is targeted. I'm of the persuasion, personally, that a receiver will produce less when he's targeted less. You may not believe that yourself, however.

 

That's the point. Tanny needs to recognize the patterns that indicate he will get open and release it. But he didn't. So he has to make a 60 yard throw instead of a 40 yard throw.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d82366a57/Roethlisberger-hits-Wallace-for-95-yard-TD

See how Mike goes to put his hand up once he's open but immediately takes it down? Because when he looks back to Ben the ball is already on its way. Tannehill has an arm but he underthrew Wallace quite a bit last year because he's waiting. And that is something that can be corrected. Big Ben is experienced. His legacy is secure. Tanny isn't, and isn't.