Today marks the 1 year anniversay of Ireland being fired

...and was disposed of quickly after the draft. He hasn't been offered any kind of role in the league since. You'd think if a moron like say Randy Mueller still has a job somewhere, Ireland should too. I suspect it's because of his sour reputation around the league.

 

You're absolutely right. Tannenbaum and Ireland are both Parcells disciples and likely have a shared vision for the type of players they want. They should've put this structure in place last year.

 

OH come on now. Part of the job of the coaches is to develop the guys that a GM thinks are talented and have what it takes to make it in this league. These guys are either athletes or there not. Ireland made some mistakes in judgement - yes but there is just as much blame, if not more, on the coaches for not developing the talent

Hell Case and point : Dion Jordan

 

The reason Ireland hasn't found another job is because the NFL is a good ol' boys network and he betrayed his head coach in their eyes. Also, Parcells remains a powerful figure in this league and he has admitted that he doesn't talk to him anymore after what he did to Sparano.

 

you guys keep saying the same **** over and over.

It was not and is not the GM's job to develop the talent.

That is the job of the coaches. We had Parcells, then Sparano and then Philbin during Irelands reign.

Just about all of you give Hickey a pass and say he gets time, but offer none to Ireland. Instead Ireland is expected to dismantle and rebuild both sides of the ball 3 times in 6 years and we are supposed to be good.

There may actually be something to not changing the coach and GM again. Although I do believe whatever is the right thing Ross will do the opposite

 

Because he is still being paid by Miami, and accepting a formal job with another organization would mean Miami would no longer have to pay him. Instead, he does consulting work for NFL teams, which means he's getting two checks.

 

How do you know he hasn't

 

absolutely.

 

Ha - I knew there was something-----most will ignore this post

 

So why do so many of his players are no longer on our team or in the league? Do you really miss his collosal failure to get decent players midround? Do you really miss players openly stating they didn't want to come here because of Ireland? I sure as hell don't.

 

I call b.s. on this one. If teams really wanted him they could just buy out his remaining contract to avoid any conflict of interest.

 

How many screen names you have on here Jeff?

 

Ha Ha your funny

 

I'm hilarious

 

See post #17 and post #32.

Ought to sum it up for ya

 

You know what they say about opinions...

 

Huh? They will just hire him as a consultant like Seattle did last offseason. Its not about conflict of interest, its essentially the same off-set language that drives most coaches/executives to take a hiatus.

 

What % of players drafted by Ireland are out of the league, and what is the league average?

 

I'm talking about being a full-time GM or director of player personnel/scouting.

 

I can't pull that stat out of my *** but I can tell you he had a knack for selecting guys with limited upside and *repeat* hardly any playmakers */repeat*

 

Points well taken, and I was a defender to a point of Ireland (yes, I was wrong), but he wasn't fired...he was asked to take a lesser role in the organization and resigned...but either way, he's gone and we're better for it...

 

Disagree, I think he selected a lot of players that had a lot of upside, and have delivered on that upside, both in FA and the draft.

 

Hickey > Ireland

 

Ireland threads still have legs. I'm just thankful that no matter how many people on this board defend him, he's gone and is never coming back. That's all that matters.

 

Amen. No more having to keep flying banners over the stadium to get our point across to get Ireland fired. Now Philbin...

 

Actually I remember a statistic a few years back that showed that Ireland was the best at picking players who remain in the league. He was good at picking talent in the late rounds.

 

I do not agree with this at all. Hickey is going to have to do much better in free agency.

Hickey is pretty much equal to Ireland. (Only if some of the players like Turner, McCain, and Fede actually turn into good players)

 

The work he did is all that matters, at the end of the day. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Tannehill, life is good.

 

The thing that most forget about or ignore is the alignment and subsequent coup inside the Dolphins organization. Ireland resigned he was not fired. Another fact most ignore. No one really knows for sure why Ireland has been invisible, except that most contracts have there clauses and most likely he is still getting paid.

Until the people involved in that debacle are no longer around this franchise will suffer in mediocrity because no one trusts to come here.

Go Tanne!!!!!!

 

I think we can credit Sherman with the Tannehill pick.

 

Nice try, his finger wasn't on the trigger. If your going to rightfully fault Ireland for his mistakes like Wheeler and Ellerbe, you have to give credit where it's due. The trigger man.

 

Just like how ALL coaching decisions eventually fall back on failbin. No he probably doesn't specifically coach the defense, I doubt he has the football IQ for that. Still though ALL the coaching decisions made under his authority DIRECTLY fall back to him. Just like how ALL the moves made under Ireland (or any true gm's reign) fall back on him. That's the responsibility that comes with power. Shula would probably agree.

 

Cheers!

 

Totally agree.

 

Wait, aren't you a Philbin supporter?

 

Hindsight is 20/20 but damn I'd love to see what would have happened if Ross had listened to Ireland and hired Mike McCoy instead of Philbin.

Instead of Sherman we'd have had Whisenhunt as OC, he's now a HC. He was replaced by Frank Reich who's now being interviewed for a HC job. Having assistants leave to become HCs is a good sign imo, as is making the playoffs. Philbin has done neither.

McCoy stayed with the 3-4 that SD had prior to his arrival, he may well have kept Bowles to run it for him. We could have kept Soliai, Dansby, Burnett, Vontae, Smith, Carroll, etc. to go with Wake, Vernon, Jordan, Jones, Misi, Starks, Odrick. Bowles could have done some serious damage with those guys.

Ditto for Bush and Marshall. A lot of talent was sent packing unnecessarily and to what end?