I'm out on Tannehill

You can't base current play off of their career numbers.. Nor can you just erase a season of play.

 

Comeon Dj even you have too see the clear bias in this now. If not, nothing else needs said

 

To each their own.

 

Respectfully disagree. I got to believe his agent (if he is any good) walks in with Dalton's and to a certain extent C-Kap's contract numbers and they will stand on very solid ground to get those type of numbers from Miami. That's the market for a QB in today game....

You think Miami is letting him walk?

 

Because to say yor out on RT based on what he has done and then basically make statement tha kaep will rebound based on nothing but faith to me comes off bias

 

Really depends on how he plays next season, needs to keep showing improvement like he has every year so far. If he plays similar to this year, you really have to think about exploring other options.

 

One thing to remember is C-Kap's contract is very 49er friendly.

 

Good point. That's why this extension doesn't scare me all that much. The deals that are used as a starting point (Dalton and Kaep) are both pretty team friendly.

 

So kaep has proven he will rebound and not continue to regress? As in its fact, non debatable?

 

I was not saying that the negotiations won't start there, I'm saying they shouldn't. Both Dalton and Kaepernick are overpaid IMO (maybe not next year, but overall deal), so I don't think Tannehill should get a deal that would overpay him either.

If he plays up to par, no Miami won't let him walk.

 

It's kind of obvious the Dolphins have Tannehill in their long term plans. A huge reason Philbin is still HC, probably the biggest reason is they don't want to do anything that would mess up his development. I know it's hard to look at 17 and know hes the guy right now. You have to look at what kind of QB will he be 2 seasons from now. Look how Tannehill's numbers began to drastically get better as he began to get to know the offense better. This offense when run at its peak efficiency is like Brazilian soccer. It's fluid.. With timing and movement. But you have to be in it for awhile to get to that point. Project 17 as you have ready seen him improve. He has all the tools. He has the intelligence. He has the drive and toughness. He has the desire. It's all there, people just need to be patient.

 

And in my opinion, Miami will be much better served working on a contract for him now. His numbers next season will put him inside the top ten, maybe even closer to 5, and he will command a much bigger contract at that point.

 

I don't necessarily agree with that line of thinking, DJ. For instance, Jon Kitna lit it up for a season...Derek Anderson...Matt Cassell...possibly Nick Foles falls into this category, jury is out on him. Sometimes everything clicks for a guy for a season, and he plays lights out, and then never touches that level again.

 

How do you know that level of play was reached simply because his book hadn't been written yet and bnow defenses know how to defend him?

Or what if he thrived in a scaled down offense but struggled as he trying to take the next step,?

Still sounds a lot like using diff criteria to judge

 

Pre-draft, I think most people were judging CK based on the old QB formula of a pure pocket passer. In that regard, CK hasn't exactly proven anyone wrong as to their analysis of him. What people failed to recognize was the emergence of the read-option in the NFL and its impact for a duel threat QB. Now that teams have adapted to the read-option, CK will need to prove he is legit from the pocket in order to bounce back. That is uncharted water for CK so to me its not a given he will bounce back.

 

This thread has better legs than Tannehill.

 

It certainly passes better than Kaepernick

 

Out of all the QB's out there that would be hardest to game plan for it would be Wilson. He will beat you with his arm, his legs, and his mind.

 

Is this ridiculous thread still going???

 

HA!

Lets hope Tannehill never reaches the level of Kaepernick, it'd be a major step backwards.

 

Mostly he beats people with his run game and defense.

 

'Round in circles we go. Anyone change their opinions yet?

 

I hated tomatoes with a passion until I turned 21. Now, years later, they're one of my favorite foods.

True story.

I also like pie.

 

Apparently the 9ers had OL woes... As a backup RT, Martin gave up 6 sacks. This past season, CKap was sacked 52 times and took 68 hits. In 2013, he was sacked 39 times and hit 57 times.

Surely, there is no correlation between QB play and the OL.

 

That's how these Tannehill supporters are, if you don't agree with them that Tannehill is the future they get all bent out of shape.

Tannehill is not the future, you nailed it in your original post. If he gets protection, and his read is open, he can make the throw. Outside of that, he can't figure it out.

He rarely moves around the pocket to buy time, rarely runs unless it was designed, his progression sucks. He has gotten somewhat better on not telegraphing his throws.

The people that say ridiculous things like he has more completions then Dan ever did. Look at the league over the last 5 years, there are a lot of QB's in this league that can say that. They are also throwing at a higher % then ever. Dan only attempted more passes in 3 years of his career then Tannehill did this year. You line two QB's up from different era's and compare them, the game has changed immensely. From the offensive strategy, to what teh defense is allowed (or not allowed to do) to combat that strategy.

Tannehill will not be a franchise guy for these reasons:

1)In three seasons he has shown no improvement in pocket awareness
2) Rarely extends plays
3) Can't complete the deep ball
4) Can't win big games

#3 and #4 are massive, and people like to sweep it under the rug. Defenses don't even respect it, they move up all game long.
And when we have big games, with potential to determine our playoff destiny.... he crumbles.

 

Wow! I like this guy lol Man on fire, tell em how it is bro, your not alone in your thought process.

 

Clearly....you're not a golfer.

 

Just having some fun with you, Deej. You're one of my favorite posters. I'm expecting CKap to bounce back next season once he has better protection.

 

Yeah, that's almost exactly what I was implying.

Posters who are blatantly trolling, instigating, and harassing members should be dealt with by the mods.

If I was interested in this garbage I'd go hang at the other site...

 

Daltons contract is a fine starting point for Tannehill. If we got off the hook with basically 1 seasons worth of guaranteed money Id be more then OK. Especially since Tannehill is better then Dalton. Dalton is one of the worst QB's in the league on a team that doesnt have a huge hole anywhere.

 

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