I'm out on Tannehill

You could say they couldn't have won without Marshawn Lynch or their defense either. Don't get me wrong, Wilson is great, but so is Lynch and the defense (especially the secondary).

 

dolphins would have 3 or 4 more wins if the dolphins had seattle's defense.

 

This I agree with. He has to know that his interior OL is hot garbage on a good day. Colledge, Satale, and Pouncey have been blown up and/or pushed back into his pocket all season. Dallas Thomas is a liability at both Guard and RT. How can he personally allow 7 sacks to happen - even if James was out, Fox was at LT and Billy Turner was at RT for 17 plays. Turner actually played well. He didn't allow a single pressure on 12 pass blocking plays. The OL was credited with 34 sacks, 50 hits, and 144 hurries. Last year was 51- 42- and 131. The other 12 were on backs or Tannehill.

The OL allowed a sack on the first passing down of the game. That set a tone and Tannehill needed to compensate more, especially as the game went on and things got worse in the 4th qtr. Frustrating and hoping he gets it sorted before we get into the meat of next season. He needs more lively feet. He tends to plant them. I'd rather he learn to bounce ala Brady, or dance ala Rothliesburger or Rodgers...

 

I'm not disagreeing with you, DJ, in that Tannehill needs to improve some things. I think what frustrates me in these discussions, is we take the QB, the guy who was one of the few bright spots, imo, and say "Get better or we won't win!!" Instead of talking about the truly ****ty play of two or three of the other units (oline, defense, special teams, maybe receivers also). It strikes me as unfair. Is it simply because people think it's easier to get one player better than several players on different units? Like, this season, if you could wave a magic wand and make one thing better, I wouldn't have waved it over the QB. It would have been defense. Oline and receivers battling in a closely contested second place.

 

Here's Tannehill's new training regime for avoiding sacks:

 

The defense rests.

 

He is giving his opinion on an opinion based forum, he isn't claiming anything is factual outside of his point of view. Why don't you "hang up" and read the forum rules and stop making this thread about the posters.

Thanks

 

100% agree. the thing is he is improving. he isn't henne or every other qb since marino that stayed the same year after year. for all the talk about seattle and wilson, you know how many more points the seattle seahawks scored than the miami dolphins? 6. the real difference is in defense. the seattle defense gave up 119 points less than the dolphins, its why tannehill and the dolphins are home and seattle is in the playoffs not because wilson scrambles and runs and tannehill is a "robot" its because seattle is a vastly superior TEAM than the miami dolphins.

 

Not to quote Forrest Gump, but sometimes sh1t happens.

Look at Andrew Luck in the Cowboys/Colts game: He was 15/22 for a 109 yards. A terrible 5.0 YPA. 0 TDs, 2 INTs (including 1 in the EZ). He finished the game with a 41.7 PR.

Consider this 7 sack game an outlier, move on, and hope/expect him to be better next season.

 

You have anything more than anecdotal evidence to support this claim? Because I doubt he has the most. This most recent Jets game was easily his most in a single game in a very long time.

 

luck has been like that in the last month of the season he has a qb rating around 70 and a completion percentage around 52 or 53%. watching espn it was because.... the oline was bad and luck was chucking down since he had no time for receivers to get open.

 

The house is on fire and you're talking about how the carpet doesnt match the drapes.

 

So...it's an excuse for Luck if his line sucks, but not Tannehill???

Got it!

 

apparently it was the same reason why the tom brady struggled in the beginning of the season, yet for tannehill its just he isnt good enough and will never win a superbowl so we should trade him now because he is no different than chad henne.

 

Not to mention that every single Colt or Patriot OL would instantly start for Miami, and be an upgrade!

 

I love analogies, so here's one I'll try:

You have this expensive sports car you love. You go out for a drive, and realize that one of your pistons isn't firing, affecting the acceleration and power of the car, and causing a horrible noise and engine vibration. You go a little further, and realize that one of your tire rod ends is bad, and it is creating an horrible noise, and the car shakes terribly. You then realize that your rearview mirror has come unglued from the windshield. You stop at your mechanic's shop, and he tells you he only has time to fix one thing on the car. You demand that he reglue the mirror.

That would be absurd, wouldn't it?

 

Neither Colts OTs would start over Albert, maybe even Juwan James.

 

Yeah, not sure anyone is complaining about Albert. You did see the final PFF ranking of James, right?

 

Its going to be a long five months until May and the draft. Jesus there wont be much worth talking about after the middle of February until about the middle of April really. Who is ranked and considered here and now means less than jack **** all in the end of things.

 

Nope, I don't put a lot of stock in that site...never have. Ofcourse it may be best used for OL since they are hard to dial in on without the game tape.

I believe Mike Wallace ranked 8th overall in some WR stat I don't recall, and I wouldn't consider him top 20 in that department....so my PFF shun certainly isn't agenda based.


And AGAIN, I was responding to another ridiculous claim.

 

I will give an example, PFF has Dallas Thomas as a better OT than James....not sure I agree with that on the surface.

 

Even there had been an internet back in the days of Super Bowl 6, DJ was still just a little tiny sperm, swimming around in his daddy's scrotum. So, he wouldn't have known about that awful play until many years later.

 

Archie Manning played his entire career on teams so bad that if his sons had played on teams of similar quality, neither of them would have sniffed the playoffs even once, let alone anything else.

 

Wallace graded out at 53...

 

And you are aware that the final rankings factor in that James was playing LT when he is in fact as RT. And a RT he performed fine. You know why James is a RT? Because anyone who watched his college tape and game film knew he couldnt play LT. He will be a fine RT in the Kareem McKenzie mold but probably a better pass blocker (yeah he was actually good at pass blocking from there in terms of not allowing sacks). As a RT he allowed 1 sack and basically had 1 bad game (vs GB).

 

Also, Im not directing this at anyone in particular but inflamatory or baiting type posts are against the TOS. If you are doing stuff like that it will be deleted. If you continue to do stuff like that you will be warned and eventually banned. I strongly advise against such posts. You know who you are.

 

what would wilson do to lead the dolphins to the promised land? the seahawks offense scored 6 more points than the dolphins, seattle averaged 23.6 pts a game the dolphins averaged 23.3. what would lead you to believe that wilson would be vastly superior? without bringing over the seahawks defense what would make wilson score 119 more points to make up the defensive difference?

 

Hes not all knowing but hes proven he knows what hes watching more often then the average person. I dont agree with him all the time and vice versa, I dont even agree with him here, but I respect his opinion and you will do the same of him and every other member of this forum.

Who else agrees with your opinion? Provide links, quotes, facts, etc not bland, generic statements like this that bait and little else.