Dolphin vrs Packers official game thread!!

Tannehill played like crap in the first half. However if our line blocks and creates any push we wouldn't have been stuffed on 4th down near the goal line. Tannehill did what great QB's do, put bad play behind them and will their team to the lead. Our defense failed in the end. As did our offensive play calling and special teams unit covering the punt.

 

fixed

 

I knew the game would end like this, we see it every season against Marcia Brady,
If only I can get the lottery numbers , lol

 

Getting the lead isn't his job. His job is to play well. Joe Philbin being a ****ty coach doesn't really change that.

 

Agreed 100%

 

Well if you're saying PhinFan cant isolate the end of the game, then you sure as heck can't isolate what happened in the beginning either. .

Furthermore, I think it's pretty silly to suggest the beginning of the game is more important than the end, ESPECIALLY with how many games are won and lost in the 4th quarter.

 

I don't remember the officials actively helping Green Bay today. You could argue that maybe they helped passively by ignoring holding on the o-line, but the officials tend to actively help New England, and last year at Foxboro was a perfect example.

 

I wish we could.

 

That sounds great, but this team has now lost its last to game at home.

Good teams don't lose two straight home games. Of course no one ever accused this team if being good, so I guess two home losses in a row is about par for this team.

8-8 is about the best this team will finish this year and all that will get them is around the 18th pick in the NFL draft next year.

 

The strangest thing about this argument to me is that some people think that either team ever had control of the game.

 

The Packers did, with 3 seconds left.

 

Yeah, and the job of Green Bay's defense is to play well, too, and that's exactly what they had been doing lately allowing just 38 pts the previous 3 games. Oh, but Tannehill's job is to play well, so Green Bay's D was supposed to just lay down for him, amIright? Sometimes it doesn't always work out ideally for both parties, however, Tannehill rebounding against a tough defense to take a 24-17 lead in the 4th quarter is most certainly considered doing his job. But hey, feel free to point out the long list of QBs to finish a season with no interceptions and no incompletions.

 

So you're saying teams call plays the same whether they're up, tied or down? It totally changes the entire way the game plays out. Players shrugged it off, made plays, took a defensible lead, and several curious-at-best calls/game management gave it away...

There's no possible way of knowing they wouldn't have had a chance at the end...it's Aaron freaking Rodgers...he's never totally "out" of it. Simply no way to know.

 

Using the term great and Tannehill in the same sentence should be against the law.

Tannehill is what he is. A very average QB who sometimes can play at a high level for short periods of time in a game.

He is what his record as a starting QB says he is. That record by the way is 17-20 in his 37 starts in the NFL. Time to start looking elsewhere for the QB of the future for this team.

 

well, the clock would've had control of the game if Philbin decided to run it down instead of passing twice and stopping it.

 

The Packers were pretty well in control at 17-10, and then that flipped when the Dolphins went up 24-17. However, from then on out, Aaron Rodgers's QB rating was 106, and that was too much to surmount.

 

This is pretty much the case, sad to say. Despite Ireland's being mediocre overall there's enough talent on this team at this point to be able to win more games than what they do. Philbin is a bad coach, Tannehill is a average QB. Got to get better at both

 

Now back to Freddy vs Jason

 

Bullsh*t dude...straight bullsh*t. Fake spike, Wheeler, need I say more? I mean Rodgers is a beast, this is nothing new, but we handed it to them on a platter.

Passer rating doesn't account for how much of that was gifted, so it's plain f***ing useless in this (as well as mostly all) situation.

Miami's coaches all drive automatics...

 

You ignored the entire point of the post to go on an anti-Tannehill rant.

The point was despite his early struggles he led us to what should have been a victory. If you actually watch QB's around the league play you will notice while that Tannehill isn't elite, we could be doing much much worse. You'd also see that his first half today wasn't A-typical of the NFL.

 

Oh, and Brian Hoyer would be undefeated on this team.

 

The other thing...

Why did we call a TO before the 2 min warning. Why not just let the clock run down and make them use the 2 min to stop the clock?

 

Seems as if Sturgis' groin is healed...he's kicking well. WTF happened to Fields? He's just been shotty all year. Giving them the ball on the 40 on that punt was shameful.

 

That last series screamed for a designed rollout to Wallace's side. Give Ryan the option to tuck it and run or hit Wallace on a fly pattern if he has one on one coverage.

 

If you think Tannehill is the long term answer at the QB position, good for you. I just have seen enough to convince me that he isn't special enough to get this team beyond mediocre.

I'll admit that he can play effectively at times. I just don't think he can be effective enough over the course of a season to get this team into the playoffs.

Heck, even Henne played at a high level during some games and Matt Moore was the MVP of the Dolphins in 2011.

My view is that if you had a top tier QB on this team, it would have had a far better record over the past 37 games than it has had with Tannehill as the starting QB.

In fact I have no doubt the team could have had the same or better record with Matt Moore as the starting QB and I don't think he is anything but a good backup QB in the NFL.

 

Plus a bootleg or rollout QB can just slide to kill the clock or throw if it's open... Best of both worlds when you want use clock but also attempt the first down. It should really be a staple regardless but it really is a safe play for a mobile QB.

 

"Adam Beasley twitted this:
For the second time in three games, Dolphins players privately griping about decisions made by their coaches. Lots to choose from."

Mutiny still alive

 

Rightfully so.

 

i wonder what marino is thinking/saying to ross

 

I never said Tannehill was the answer. I said in the end he isn't the reason we lost this game, if we had won he would have in fact been the reason.

 

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Sure would be nice right now if we had hired Kyle Shanahan to be our OC (he was my top pick this offseason). Look at how he has that Cleveland offense full of scrubs clicking. Lazor has his moments, but for the most part he leaves me shaking my head.

 

Actually if they had won the game, it would have been because the defense made the plays throughout the game which led them to victory.

If not for the play of the defense, the game would have been over in the first half.

While Tannehill played much better in the second half, it was the OL who stepped up and opened huge holes for the running game. Tannehill did throw some excellent passes in the second half and he has shown that ability throughout his time with the Dolphins.

I just think he is too inconsistent to ever be more than what he is right now. When he is good, he can be very good. He just isn't good often enough.

I would have loved if he had shown that he could be the long term answer for the Dolphins. That certainly would have made building a team around him much easier for the GM and head coach.

I just don't see Philbin being with the Dolphins in 2015 and I don't see the next head coach wanting to risk his job by keeping Tannehill as the starting QB for this team.

You never know though, perhaps Harbaugh will take the job and he will do for Tannehill what he did for Smith when he took over as HC of the 49ers. That would be about the only scenario I see where Tannehill would remain the starting QB under a new HC.

 

Philbin didnt want to lose to his future team.He doesnt want to piss them off.

That could be as good as any other reason why he threw this game.

 

Maybe Shanahan can be considered for the Dolphins heading coaching position, once all the big names show no interest in the job after this season.

 

I'd take him over Philbin any day. His resume was more impressive than Philbin's when he was hired. He actually calls plays as an OC.

 

thats because the players unlike some of our fans get the problem. Its the coaching plain and simple. this has been consistent throughout the year

 

We were a fumble recovery away from beating the Packers by 4 points. If we can do that despite the horrible coaching many are talking about, we must have tremendous talent on the roster. I don't see it honestly but maybe we should bring Ireland back then.

It's so easy to second guess the coaching. They make mistkes, but I don't see them making more mistakes than the players make in reasonable situations they are put in by their coaches.