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For Dolphins’ Beck, focus should be on eliminating turnovers

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ATVZ400, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

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    http://www.realfootball365.com/index.php/articles/dolphins/11998

     
  2. bkbuffet

    bkbuffet Season Ticket Holder

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    I'm very confident that Beck has worked hard on this in the off season. It's simply a fact of him being put in before he was ready, and the need to run for his life on just about every blitz sent at him due to poor pass protection last year.

    He will be ready, and he will surprise! :)
     
  3. hugoguzman

    hugoguzman New Member

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    Thanks for the link ATVZ!

    I don't think that INTs will be a problem because it appears as if Beck is fairly accurate and intelligent in terms of selecting his passing targets, but he'll have to avoid another case of fumbilitis if he wants to hold onto the starting duties.
     
  4. PhinsRock

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    This will become a moot point when my son Josh becomes the starter. :lol:
     
  5. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I hope Beck shines this year!
     
  6. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    really? a QB should focus on eliminating turnovers?? No way!

    Nothing against McCown, but Id really love to see Henne or Beck win the job. I just want one of our own homegrown picks to win the job, and become the face of the franchise. I think out of Beck/Henne, Beck has the advantage being in the league for a year already. Just have to wait and see i guess.
     
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    124 Banned

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    Beck, although 27, to me has more promise to become an NFL star than Chad Henne. Henne has all the tools and the making of a successful QB, but like I've said, he never stood up and shined when it mattered most. Never won an important game against a good/great team until his last game, a January 1st Bowl Game against Tim Tebow & Florida. I don't trust him, and neither should any of you. There's a reason a lot of Michigan fans wanted Ryan Mallet to stay at QB instead of the return to Henne.
     
  8. Coral Reefer

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    :lol:

    I thought the exact same thing.

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  9. dolphindebby

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    It's about time you took up for our son! It seems I have to do all the work around here, when it comes to him.:sidelol:
     
  10. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm going to go out on a limb and think its simply because he went to a big, well known school... Michigan. Thats the only logic I can see behind that statement... Aside from that... No clue...
     
  11. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Well if he can focus on not getting his throwing hand mistakenly chopped for firewood, I'd say his chances are good.
     
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  12. padre31

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    IMO, John Beck should concentrate on playing football inside his game rather then worrying about this or that, he wasn't a fumbler in college, he had a strong and accurate arm, and Beck had good speed at the Combine.

    I would hate for last season to get in his head and stay there, the year was a wash, let it go, I'd hate to see him develop a mental block like Ken O'Brien had with the Jets, he ate sacks rather then throw the ball away and it stuck to him his entire career.

    IMO, we have an offense suited to any one of our Qb's, Dan Henning has a nice track record of not putting limited Qb's on the spot until they can prove themselves.
     
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  13. Coral Reefer

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    I agree with you completely.

    IMO it was the usual rookie transition a young QB goes through.
    The speed of the game is already hard for them.
    Pair that with Beck being thrown into a leadership role with a team that lacked a lot of talenth and an OL that was letting rushers in even faster than he'd normally face led to the extreme amount of turnovers he had.

    As you said, Beck needs to stick with what made him a successful QB already and focus on adapting to the speed of the NFL game. I believe you'll see quite a difference this year IF he in fact has the tools to make it in the NFL.

    My second year in college ball was a drastic change from the first.
    They talk about everything "slowing down" as you adapt to the competition at a new level and it's true. Once you get used to that new speed you can focus more on the basics and techniques to better yourself.
     
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  14. padre31

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    And there was the mutiny on the offensive line CR, to me that was unheard of, I'm sure it happened before in the NFL, but that was just..blatant..

    Given time, he did okay for a Rook, I'd like to think the Cincy game was a glimpse of what John Beck can do for us.
     
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  15. hugoguzman

    hugoguzman New Member

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    Glad to see this topic stirring so much conversation.

    I think that the bottom line is this: Beck has the ability to be a starting quarterback in the NFL, but with Parcells and company, his ability to hold the starting job will be predicated on his ability to avoid those costly fumbles (interceptions didn't seem to be a major issue in year one, except for the one game).

    Since Miami will likely employ a run-first offense, Beck doesn't need to win games with his arm. He just needs to manage them effectively and avoid those backbreaking turnovers. And a TD pass here and there won't hurt either.

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  16. cnc66

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    cmon boys.. stay ON topic and please drop the personal stuff.
     
  17. hugoguzman

    hugoguzman New Member

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    Hey CNC!

    I will just ignore the negative stuff, especially when it's off topic. I'll also avoid engaging with folks that like to go that route, so I can avoid going down that path to irrelevant back-and-forth cheapshots.

    Thanks for cleaning up the thread. There's actually some good on-field conversation in here.

    I actually found it interesting that part of the reason for the initial negativity regarding my column was the perception that I was ignoring Beck's "high profile draft pick" status in favor of Henne. The reality is that I'm all for Beck winning the starting job and I'm aware of his status.

    Unfortunately, the drafting a fellow relatively-high-profile guy in Henne, along with the fact that Beck isn't a "Parcells guy" (was drafted by the last regime) cuts down on Beck's margin for error.

    That said, if he avoids the fumbilitis and continues to display consistent and sound decision making, I have no doubt that he'll be the guy lining up behind center on Sundays.
     
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  18. Crunkcore

    Crunkcore The Crunk One

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    Hopefully Beck will be much improved this year.
     

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