The Official Tom Brady Hate Thread.

I'd just like to bring up the fact that we have beaten NE twice in a row and will make it three later this year.

 

Good luck with that. The game will be played in cold weather in our house, where we haven't lost a game in a long time. The record setting Broncos couldn't beat us there last year with a much less talented team than we have now. But I'm sure you little guys will come in there and beat us.

It's amazing what one win can do for a perennial loser. We weren't this cocky even after 1 SB win.

 

These morons actually believe this!

 

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Your team isn't very talented I hate to break it to you. Outside of Gronk/Brady/Revis you're basically hot trash that fits a scheme. Noone in the league would want your WR core, your halfback unit, your defensive or offensive lines.

Maybe teams like the Raiders and Jags I guess.

 

Yeah, these morons like HOF coach Jimmy Johnson. Where does he get off claiming that the Pats had no advantage with what they did?!

 

We're more talented than we were last year when we went undefeated at home, kiddo.

 

That's because it's a known fact NE didn't have fans until after that first Superbowl win.

Bandwagon fans all the way. Should have seen their message boards back then. Pathetically empty.

Have fun being a delusional troll.

 

Every team thinks they are better each season. Few are. You aren't

 

Stringer and Fin-d debating some patsy who announces his intelligence..lol

That's called a DP skull crusher.

 

Based on a 1 game sample size? You're an expert analyst of data, clearly.

 

I said everything I'm saying now before this season started. I didn't need any sample to analyze your watered down roster.

 

Why did y'all cut Jeremy gallon.?

That receiver core could use him.

 

So it didn't have any advantage. ..except the fact that BB kept doing it? If it had no advantage and it was against the rules (because common sense..can't tell me BB didnt know it was), why did BB insist his staff continue the practice? Why did Goodell decide to punish the Pats to the extent the policy calked for? Obviously there was some advantage, otherwise why waste time and risk getting caught doing it?

 

How is it watered down from last year? We got some of our best players (on both sides of the ball) back from injury and added a top CB, plus another very good press CB in Browner who will return in week 5.

You're just making things up, or engaging in wishful thinking. Every single year the fanbases of 31 other teams declare that this is the year the Pats will decline, and every year they are wrong. I specifically remember people making the exact same arguments prior to last year's opener - poor receiving corps, bad defense, Brady is declining, etc - and we won the division and made it to the AFCE with a less talented team.

You never learn.

Know your role, Dolphins fan.

 

Because he, along with other coaches, did not think they were risking anything. Pretty simple to understand really. Many were doing it, as Jimmy Johnson pointed out.

 

Taking away a first round pick us about as severe as it gets to a franchise...oh they cheated alright..shady mother grabbers.

 

Mussolini agreed with Hitler, does that make Hitler correct?

I don't have the burden of proof for anything, you do.

See, I didn't make up that BB got caught cheating, it actually happened, maybe you forgot about it.......

 

The problem is one rule book made public says no taping and one rule book distributed for internal use only says yes, but not in these certain spots. we only get to see the no.

 

But my question is if it had no advantage, why do it? Why waste time filming walk throughs and signals when it apparently had no value? Certainly it had some value to BB, because if it didn't why would a coach of his stature resort to keep doing it when he couldve focused on looking for other advantages and ways the team could improve?

Why does Marshall Faulk & others keep insisting that the Pats snuffed out plays that only the Pats couldve scouted for through taping their walkthroughs?

 

who knows. I don't think there were any walk through videos confiscated.

you are allowed to have a scout (or 2, i cant remember) go to your opponents prior two games and sit in the press box with a recorder (not camera). not sure how that works in the playoffs when you don't know who your opponent will be.

 

How do you know he re-watched it later, not sooner?

 

this is interesting as well. (nothing to do with spygate, but information trading)


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/sports/football/26nfl.html?fta=y

 

There had to be something advantageous to the tapings. Otherwise Goodell would've just issued them a warning a light slap on the wrist.

 

I think it had more to do with the fact that Ray Anderson sent that memo like a week before. Maybe an act of defiance in his eyes? I don't know. I find it hard to imagine you could dissect and disseminate almost two hours of footage, apply it, and come up with adjustments in 15 minutes.

 

That's why coordinators and coaches have screen shots of these things.

 

Those are taken from the media cameras and prior games printed on the sidelines. Teams are allowed to video their own games because they want to see all 22 players at once all the time. The rule is you have to film the scoreboard first, before each play, which timestamps it, then I am sure they film the coaching line next, and then they see the formation. This is why coaches cover their mouths with the play card. Also, you will notice, the HC, OC and DC all signaling at the same time, to throw the other team off.

And the QB helmet radio shuts off with 15 seconds left on the play clock.

Hell, some coaches will stick two fingers up in the air and then play cover 2.

 

I just can't buy the notion that the tapings had no advantage. I don't think the NFL punished the Pats so severely even though what they did was "no big deal".

 

I think if it was that nefarious, they would have suspended him.

I think it was more of a "dude, we just sent you the ****ing memo a few days ago, the ****s the matter with you?" and sent a message to the league.


Anything is possible. People say these games are rigged already? i don't dismiss that, but even if, I will continue to watch and I will still shout "shut up and take my money!"

I often wondered why we get a public rule book and they get a private one that contradicts the public one.

 

The more severe the penalty issued, the more the integrity of the game would have been ruined. It was in the league's best interest to give everyone the impression that what they did had minimal effect. If there had been suspensions, it would have been an admission that they gained a very large advantage, and therefore the integrity of the competition would have been removed.

 

that's a very good possibility, also. It was also the highest fine ever handed out and the highest draft pick ever taken, it was pretty severe.

 

well after the first SB, there couldn´t be much cockiness, because the bandwagoners came probably a little after that

 

it exploded after the win over the eagles in 04. Also, 3 championships in 4 years will do that. Ask a Yankees fan.

 

Biggest fine, but not the most severe penalty. Sean Peyton and the Saints own that: $5-6M hit to his pocket? Essentially a lost season for the franchise.

 

The phrase "at the time" could be logically assumed...he did say "was."

 

I'm not going to read through 16 pages, but clearly we all gotta think Roger's lying extends beyond the Rice tape, right?

 

I suspect BB would convince him to first allow him to trade him to Tampa Bay for thirteen draft picks over the next five years, which of course, the Bucs would fall for.

 

He is in for a rough year. Everything about that team screams sliding into mediocrity at a fast pace.

 

Not yet. I want to see Wake, Vernon, and company pummel him at least one more game.