Unbelievable for Aaron Donald. Wow. I knew it would be good, but god damn. Someone will have to tell me when the official times come out because I need the official time for Clowney to be over 4.50 lol.
Clowneys official time might be a lot slower than 4.47. That's him matched with De'Anthony Thomas and he ran an official 4.50.
It actually looked like Clowney had him at the 10 yard mark, then Thomas gain the edge from that point.
Yeah, Clowney's size helps him out first. Bigger and more powerful strides to explode at the start. Regardless of the increase in time, he is still impressive.
How many times does a DE run a wind sprint 40 yards? His initial push off the line was impressive regardless of his official time.
I don't agree with this at all. Just being bigger doesn't help a man have more powerful strides off the blocks that move him faster than a "quick as a bug" guy like DeAnthony Thomas. Simulcam DeAnthony Thomas with any other big man and I think you would see that. Except maybe Aaron Donald.
For contrast, here is Clowney matched with Johnny Manziel, who ran a 4.68 Comparing that with the De'Anthony Thomas match and official time, I'd say Clowney's official might clock around 4.58 to 4.62.
Well when I said bigger I did not necessarily mean size wise. I also meant muscle and strength wise. Clowney's legs look more powerful, so it might lend itself to believe his push at the start might be with higher force. His more powerful push allows him to match the quicker moving guy at first. Then things even out later.
You should keep in mind though that the Simulcam results do not synch perfectly with the "official" times. Everyone is working with different methodologies. The Simulcam people have an NFL operator that has to decide what constitutes T=0 for each player's start, and believe it or not that's not easy. The NFL "official" clockers are also doing the same thing but separately and so they may all come up with different results.
I have contacted the people responsible for the Simulcam (actually they reached out to me) and I'm trying to get to the bottom of their rules and methodology for where they start the synchronization between different players.
9'8" broad jump for Donald, that is like 90-percentile (9 out of 10 guys jump less) for all DTs and large DEs. That seals the deal. He is done, should be gone in top 15.
Maybe he should be moved to LB after all. He's faster, more agile and more explosive than most linebackers.
Does anyone know if there are 3 cone times out there for Ealy and Sam? In my sack study, both were extremely quick to the QB. Sam in particular was very quick around the edge and I'm a bit surprised by both of their 40 times. If their 3 cones are poor too, it means something else was at play allowing them to get to the QB so quick.
I like Seantrel but are we sure we would want him to stick around the city of Miami as he tried to clear past all the issues that made him such an underachiever?
Ealy killed in on the three cone with 6.83 seconds Josh Norris @JoshNorris 8m Kony Ealy has the third best 3-cone time (6.83) among DLs since 2006. Tied with Melvin Ingram. That is outstanding. Sam registered 7.8 seconds which is pretty damn low, pretty much at the bottom of the DL excepting some defensive tackles. I'm actually surprised by that given that his biggest specialty at Mizzou was that outside speed rush.
I can already tell that there's going to be whispers from nameless sources claiming that Michael Sam was too preoccupied with his coming out party to prepare for the Combine like other players. Proof that he's a distraction.
I notice Aaron Donald had one of the top DL times in the cone drill. It's surreal how much he's blowing up. I expected him to look damn good but THIS good? This Combine is making me wonder if in my tape studies I'm attuned to good football players who will be good NFL players, or if I'm just really good at recognizing above-board athleticism without having to see it in a test setting. Something to ponder. I'm a little disturbed how it turns out that many of my favorites are turning out to be be Combine winners. Athleticism isn't everything when it comes to translating to the NFL.
It's possible. I think more likely he's just not nor has ever been an impressive athlete. However he is a very solid technician that does a lot of little things right and that's why he gets sacks. As I said during the college season though, when he faces a guy like JaWuan James, he looks undraftable. But so did Dee Ford.
Different positions to consider. And yeah I got that same sense from Wilson that he's difficult to believe, he's so good as a leader and character. But I believed it. I didn't smell BS. Brock Osweiler dripped with BS in his Gruden segment. I didn't think Mallett did. He wasn't an inspirational leader and I think he's long since accepted that, hasn't tried to replicate something he doesn't have. But he works hard and knows his stuff and that substitutes well enough. Cam Newton was always definitely trying to replicate something that didn't come natural to him. But he was so goddamn serious about it, and kind of innocent at the same time. I thought it could work. It has had its ups and downs, but overall it has, IMO. Jadaveon Clowney plays a position I suspect could succeed despite the worst personality imaginable (Charles Haley).
Oh and one more thing. That thing that you're talking about? That air and aura that Russell Wilson excuded? Blake Bortles has it.
I'd change it to 5 years too once I realized I was wrong. and Julio ran a 4.39. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...than-0-1-seconds-faster-than-a-j-green-in-40/
There's something that he exudes both on the field and in interviews that just screams "Man" at you. Maybe it's the fact that he already looks like he's 32 years old.
He plays a lot like Andrew Luck does as a pro. I think they're valid comparisons. There are accuracy nitpicks for Bortles, but Luck isn't the most accurate thrower either, especially off pressure. Luck's understanding of the game and pocket management subbed in for A+++ accuracy, I think. With both players there are lower body issues preventing them from having that A+++ accuracy. Not sure if Luck is ever going to improve them. Bortles might.
Shazier - 42" vertical, 10'10" broad jump, 25 reps, didn't run the 40 and don't know why. We are not going to take him but impressive explosiveness.
Tyler Starr is a hard dude to figure out. He's 6'4" and 250 lbs so obviously tremendous size. He did a 32 inch vertical and 9'8" broad jump which are good enough numbers. His official 40 was 4.95 seconds but probably more important to me is that his UNofficial 40 was only 4.93 seconds as well. So that's bad, right? Except that his shuttle time of 4.15 seconds was 4th best of the LB group and better than Khalil Mack's, and his 6.64 cone drill is 5th best in the entire Combine thus far, counting the WRs, RBs, etc. He is exactly the kind of player the Patriots would target. They will allow his 40 time to sink him to a cheap price tag and then snap him up because of his shuttle and cone times which the Patriots have a history of coveting.
1. zack martin, rt, 6'4, 308, 29 reps, 4.5 shuttle 2. bishop sankey, rb, 5'9, 209, 26 reps, 4.49 dash, 10.5 broad, 6.75 cone (2013 - 1870 yds, 20 tds) 3. brandon thomas, lg, 6'3, 317, 35 reps, 4.83 shuttle 4. russell bodine, rg, 6'3, 310, 42 reps, 4.66 shuttle Take one of the premiere left tackles in free agency. The offensive line and power running game is set as long as our coaches dont screw it up.
I found this at NFL.com b/c you I am curious about teams like NE. In the last 11 years their highest pick was 10, then 13. Most in the 20's obviously b/c they win a lot. But that means they aren't blowing a ton of money on rookies, which was really true under the old CBA, and leaves them more money for vets. They also seem to have a lot of draft picks. More picks, more chances as we know it's hardly an exact science. The new CBA is much more forgiving, but still costs $$ for players drafted highly. Kind of a sidebar, but think of how lucky Seattle is; they have a key position (QB) well filled for a few hundred thousand leaving millions to be spent on other positions. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=3200&type=team
Seems like a stretch for a 2nd rounder. I like the others and I'm w/ you; I want to get a proven commodity at LT rather than a project.
The Patriots constantly had more draft picks due to their own artifice though. For a good long time there was hardly a year that went by where they did not trade away a present 3rd rounder for a future 2nd rounder, or even a present 2nd rounder for a future 1st rounder. I think once they even traded a present 1st rounder which was at the very end of the 1st round to San Francisco for their future 1st round pick, simply because they thought San Francisco was going to be a bad team. If I recall right they turned that pick into Jerod Mayo. It baffles me why more teams haven't copied the approach. Mike Lombardi started to do that with the Browns in 2013 but was fired before he could collect on his efforts.
