True Detective

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  1. bigbry

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    Its Marty's wife...... its her!!!!! She is pissed Marty has affairs.

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  2. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Marty!!! Great Scott!!!
     
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  3. Fin D

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    He acts like a king. He's been in the area a long time. His daughter acts like she's seen stuff. He's blonde. Things seem happen when he's having personal troubles.
     
  4. bigbry

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    Soooooo they pulled you back in, huh?
     
  5. Fin D

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    No, you guys did. Reason #754 why I hate every last one of you.

    I want to see the payoff, but I'm not necessarily enjoying the ride....you know, like banging a fat chick.
     
  6. Clark Kent

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    The more I think about it, the more I think you're right. Marty hasn't demonstrated any psychopathic tendencies. While I'm sure the writers are good enough to make Marty the Yellow King, it just doesn't fit with what we know about him, personally. There are certainly red herrings that Marty COULD be involved (refusing to call for backup w/Russ and then killing LeDoux for example), the evidence is highly circumstantial. He has no motive... Interesting you brought his his father-in-law. Didn't his father in-law talk to him about religion the day they were at the house?

    One thing Marty has been saying all along is, the detective's curse. The truth being right under your nose but you were paying attention to the wrong clues. I think that fits with what we know about his teenage daughter. Clearly, she has demonstrated unusual sexual behavior from a young age. And it's continued through puberty, circa 2002. Marty didn't pay attention to the clues, he was following the wrong ones.

    We know the police are involved in these killings, if Rust can be trusted. I think he's a reliable narrator, despite his own admission to hallucinations and substance abuse. And we know the anti Christian task force wanted to steal the Yellow King case too. Perhaps to bury it, as they have so many others. "made in error." And we know Rust reappeared on the grid after Tuttle went missing, and he's suspected of murdering him. I think there is a conspiracy. And I think Rust knew he needed to disappear and quit the police force to find the truth. Rust has never left this case. We know that he's willing to put aside his personal life (undercover Narco for years before transferring to Louisiana) to do police work.

    So where does Marty fit in? I think there are too many clues that Marty's daughter is involved in this case and has been for sometime. The whole "Goth" routine and the sexual abuse symptoms. Where is she in 2012, is the real question? I suspect she's dead. And I suspect Marty willingly rejoins his partner, Rust, if it means solving her murder. But, given what the detectives told Marty, he will suspect Rust is the Yellow King. And perhaps seek vengeance, only to rejoin his partner and finally solve this case.
     
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  7. NaboCane

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    That, I think.
     
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  8. NaboCane

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    The way he reacted to finding those kids on that property indicates that Marty wouldn't be a guy who is molesting kids.

    Remember how the FIL asked Marty to leave the kids when they left the in-laws house?
     
  9. bigbry

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    For the last ****ing time I've never banged your wife or any other fatty.
     
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  10. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    The father-in-law theory has gained a crap ton of traction
     
  11. bigbry

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    The two BLACK detectives already know, they just want to nail the evidence down.
     
  12. Sethdaddy8

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    The one detective is brother mouzone from the wire.
     
  13. Fin D

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    No one believes that.
     
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  14. Fin D

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    If it is the FIL then that's just cheap.
     
  15. Sethdaddy8

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    Well they'd need to develop it over the next 2 eps. It was just a hunch.
     
  16. Bumrush

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    They have both been working deep undercover the past few years. The conspiracy runs deep through all layers of government
     
  17. NaboCane

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    Maybe they'll pull one of those perverse, TWD-style misdirections that have you thinking it's the FIL but turns out being someone else.

    But with only three more eps to round out the story—and with no follow-up season to continue it, they have to bring it to a resolution, and I believe it's either the FIL or the guy is acting as an agent of someone with far more power, like the Governor. Or it's some cheap **** like the Gov's semi-retodded son or nephew, a la 'Things to do in Denver When You're Dead'.
     
  18. Clark Kent

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    What isthe the theory? We've barely have seen him.
     
  19. bigbry

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    The King in Yellow
     
  21. bigbry

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    I've got it!


    I know how to use the spoiler thingy now
     
  22. Paul 13

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    Time is a flat circle... exactly what Rust was talking about while being interviewed... he smashed the beer can to show it being a flat circle.

    I can see Rust, in the last episode of the season, going to this Cardosa (the cult base)... and being killed/sacrificed. The unanswered question will be, was he there willingly with the cult group or was he there undercover?

    Q... the murder referred to in the last episode, where Rust was at the crime scene, his picture was taken... they said to Marty that he was there five times... was that before or after the killing? I wasn't clear on that part... obviously after is one thing, but if he was there before, then he's a suspect.
     
  23. Paul 13

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    the whole color yellow in the literary sense is fascinating.
     
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  24. Stringer Bell

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    By far. Not even close.

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  25. Stringer Bell

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    Being an anthology, I think it will be difficult comparing to other shows. But it definitely belongs on the pantheon with great shows like the Sopranos, The Wire, BB, GOT, etc.

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  26. bigbry

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    [video=youtube;ZSZ3dOCH5Vg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSZ3dOCH5Vg[/video]
     
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  28. NaboCane

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    Dat ***.
     
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    Lone Star beer... Black Star Rising... hmm... Rust is the Lone Star?
     
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  32. Clark Kent

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    That could be a sick ending...

    As for your Q. I don't know. I have to imagine after, because he's standing in a group of people who're watching something, like a police crime scene. Or perhaps someone matched his description before the killing and the recognized him after the fact and dug into his background.

    One interesting thing about Russ, is the drinking. While he may truly be a functioning alcoholic, the creator of the shows points out
    drinking during his taped interview might of been a ploy. Because he was drinking, anything he said would be inadmissible. This comes from the creator. Rust was definitely playing the cops for information, just as Marty said.
     
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  33. Clark Kent

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    Just read something interesting about that preview for episode 6. Just a theory, not a spoiler, but I'll use tags anyway.


    The girl in the thong is Marty's daughter. The girl who said "you/he made me watch" watched Marty's kid die. Marty is brought into questioning, because he knows Rust and because of his connection to the vic (Audrey Hart). Marty hasn't made that connection, just yet (he will in ep 6). Which might explain why Hart's wife is being asked about Rust by the two black detectives...



    And this cool article, explaining some of the symbolism and Easter eggs.

    http://io9.com/the-one-literary-reference-you-must-know-to-appreciate-1523076497
     
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  34. Paul 13

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    sounds lovely :lol: Where do I sign up?
     
  35. Paul 13

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    I wonder if the fact that the black detectives are interviewing Rust first then Marty means anything as far as one being a suspect over the other? In police interviews, do you normally interview the suspect first and then follow up with further interviews as needed (so to catch them changing their story)? Or do you rather wait to interview the main suspect until you have all the facts gathered from other interviews, so that you go in with all of the information necessary to catch the suspect? I would think generally it's the former, but I think situations dictate the order sometimes.

    This is of course assuming one of them is a suspect in anything and I'm not sure they are.
     
  36. NaboCane

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    The drinking thing: you nailed it.
     
  37. Paul 13

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    Would anyone say the opposite of the words "True Detective" is "False Prophet?"
     
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  39. Paul 13

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    is that a yes? :lol:
     
  40. Bumrush

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    Breaking Bad will go down as my favorite show of all time, but True Detective is simply at another level never seen before.. If this was more than an 8 episode series it could have overtaken the Breaking Bad throne.
     

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