Martin Talks to Tony Dungy about Bullygate

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  1. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    How am I being douchy about this?

    In my view you are being douchy by belittling rape by bringing it into the conversation. Rape is serious.
     
  2. Fin D

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    I see. Molestation is not serious. Gotcha.

    The douchey part is acting like the difference between molestation and rape is a huge ridiculous gulf.
     
  3. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Not nearly as serious as rape.
     
  4. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    That's not even close to true on any level.

    And ftr, I never said they were the same thing, so don't go rewriting history either.
     
  5. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    One should be community service, the other should be time in prison. On the level of the law it is true.
     
  6. Fin D

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    In some states, what he did is sexual battery.
     
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  7. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    You are making a lot of assumptions. Just quit while you are behind.
     
  8. Fin D

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    What assumptions am I making exactly?
     
  9. Fin-Omenal

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    IF that "girthy" club entered her through her pants and underwear then she is a bigger w---- than Todd's sister.
     
  10. MikeHoncho

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    Dafuq?

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  11. jdallen1222

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    That Richie's intent was to penetrate the woman with a golf club. That the only difference between rape and what happened to her was that she was wearing clothes. That anarchy has anything to do with a victim's desires after the fact. That if this happened to anybody that we know, we would want the police involved. There's probably more, but I'm at work and have wasted enough time on this already. I felt it wasn't right for an argument to be made with those speculations.
     
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  12. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Fin D sounds like one of the people who wants an 8 year old charged with sexual harrassment fot kissing a little girl on the cheek at this point. And before he tries to call me on it, I'm not comparing the two things.
     
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  13. Fin D

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    Show me where I said that was his intent? I'll wait....
     
  14. Fin D

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    And you sound like a kid who is wrapped up in idealism because the harshness of the real adult world hasn't dried the wet behind your ears.
     
  15. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    LOL you waited exactly 4 minutes.
     
  16. Fin D

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    Hey Guano, you realize those are responses to TWO different posters?
     
  17. djphinfan

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    Lol..yup sure nuff...he just incognito'd that boy.
     
  18. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    :lol: And you sound pretty mad. I'm calm, so who is the mature one? Sorry you couldn't take a joke and got all serious.
     
  19. Fin D

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    I assure you, I'm not mad at all.
     
  20. Alex44

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    Well the only reason for words of anger towards another is....anger. So if you have another reason for speaking down to others please let me know.

    But hey, I'm an idealist. You can tell that because I said victims should have a say in the punishment of the offender. Since you literally know nothing else about me, my life, or what I believe I can only guess you got that information from this thread and my 3-4 replies. All hail Fin-D the smartest man on earth.
     
  21. MikeHoncho

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    I just hope Todd got that on the record...

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  22. Fin-Omenal

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    What's she gonna do??? Report me??
     
  23. MikeHoncho

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    Todd is probably going to storm out at some point.

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  24. jdallen1222

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    You can have the first one, I don't know where I got that from, my bad. The other examples are in this thread.
     
  25. Fin D

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    Thank you.

    What are you talking about?
     
  26. jdallen1222

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    Titties
     
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  27. Fin D

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    Sigh.
     
  28. resnor

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    If the "only difference" between it being molestation or rape is the thin layer of clothing, then you are essentially saying that Cog's intention was to penetrate her. If his intention was not to penetrate, then it's not almost rape, it could be felonious sexual assault, or even perhaps aggravated felonious sexual assault. Although many states you could plead down to simple assault in a case like this.
     
  29. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    If somebody molests my daughter, it's damn well close enough to rape for the perpetrator to be really worried about being anywhere near me...

    For once, I agree with Fin D... O.o

    I think the main point in this is: the reason it doesn't matter what the victim's response in this situation is that if he's done it once, he'll likely do it again. The next victim may not be so "nice" and Richie should be far from this team if/when it happens.
     
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  30. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I would rather my daughter be molested than raped. The choice isn't even close.
     
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  31. MrClean

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    Are you talking about mad as in angry or mad as in insane?
     
  32. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    That's like saying "I'd rather have my ***** mangled and smashed than ripped off."

    Either way it's gonna **** you up.

    Once again it's a matter of degrees. It's a small step from molesting someone to raping them.
     
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  33. Fin D

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    You're not understanding.

    I said it was borderline rape. Not the same thing as rape. Not exactly as bad as rape. Its close to rape. The reason its so close to rape is because the only difference between it and rape is penetration and victims of rape and molestation often suffer from many of the same issues afterwards. Molestation and rape are both violations of the person. Is rape worse? Yes, but so what? The notion that molesttation is simply not that big of a deal and saying it is a big deal somehow lessens the severity of rape is frankly.....****ing stupid (I'm not saying that you are implying that btw).

    Further some states do in fact consider what he did sexual battery. Granted, the state it happened in (FL) does not, but some do.
     
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  34. Fin D

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    Who is arguing they are the same thing?
     
  35. 77FinFan

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    I guess it depends and maybe I don't know technically what the definition of molestation is, but rape is a whole other ball game.
     
  36. Fin D

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    Try talking to victims of both. Rape is worse, no one said otherwise. But molestation is not THAT far off.
     
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  37. Fin-Omenal

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    I think Richie needs to be given death by way of exile, for the vigerous rape of that young woman.

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