Breaking: Dolphins hire Dennis Hickey as GM

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  1. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    I agree with this. It's underwhelming that the search took this long, with more false dawns than a pm dawn lookalike contest. Still, we have a guy now, let's see what he can do.
     
  2. Puka-head

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    please stop interrupting the emotional aspect of all this with facts. We must allow the women time to cry it out before we can begin the rational thought part of the healing process.
     
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  3. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    yup!
     
  4. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    And its Appleton estates or Mt gay rum for me. Yo ho ho and puff puff pass its a pirates life for me.
     
  5. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    As for the booze. A crisp German lager, a cloudy Belgian. Even a weak French table beer. A saison. Something sharp and corked and challenging to drink. Love the beer. Love brewing my own. Most recent a double hop ipa. Previous to that a dark lager. Also a hoppy porter.
     
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  6. GMJohnson

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    Fair enough, no one knows how he will perform in Miami. But even the biggest optimist can't deny that this is a guy who is being promoted to GM when he wasn't even cutting it as an assistant with his former team, that he was about to be fired, that the Dolphins didn't even want him until all of the guys they did want declined to take the job, and worst of all IMO, that the guys who didn't want the job seem to have declined bc they didn't want to be tied to the HC that Ross seems so committed to.
     
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  7. Bushwacker

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    What's to like Bucs won four division titles and one Super Bowl championship during his time with them, but went 28-52 over the past five years and had spotty draft results during that span, seems to me his time came and went........We get leftovers again
     
  8. mlb1399

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    I have major concerns with how this situation played out, the general lack of interest for top targets to come into our weird power structure, Ross's leadership as well as this guy as a GM. Having said that, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and let a couple of offseasons play out before I start passing judgement.

    At this point, all we have is hope. We have some pieces in place to grow into a really good football team. If he can improve our OL, RB, LB while giving us another red zone target and fill in the gaps at DT then we have a chance to be good.
     
  9. Itsdahumidity

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    Dolphins hire GM Dennis Hickey: F Grade

    "Some sources found it laughable that Hickey was interviewed for the Dolphins general manager position and believe that was further proof that Miami owner Stephen Ross doesn't know what he's doing."

    "Some in the league view Hickey as a coach and general-manager killer. In the scouting community, Hickey has the reputation of making a lot of poor evaluations that have led to a plethora of busted picks for Tampa Bay."

    "The Patriots, Jets and Bills just got a gift."


    http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2014recap.php
     
  10. Vertical Limit

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    This guy is starting to sound a lot like Ireland, one of those tools where they think they're outsmarting everyone by reaching for a player... Just take the BPA at every round please...
     
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  11. Sethdaddy8

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    To be honest here I read that but did not come away with doom and gloom.

    I see Ireland as THE reason why previous big name coaches were lost.

    Philbin at this point will not have a reason for not having success this next season. If he fails he is gone period. The GM doesn't need sole control over that process.

    Ross seems to be loyal to a fault but in the long wrong could work to benefit the team.

    To me with the disease (Ireland) has been cut away from the team, the Dolphins future is far brighter.

    I think FAgency is more important in today's NFL then the draft, unless some big name falls to us and we pass on the guy. Hickey has proven success in FA.
     
  13. Sethdaddy8

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    I think it's hard to know Hickeys experience. He wasn't the GM after all. Director of this or that is fine, but it's hard to either blame or celebrate what he has done in Tampa. All that stands out to me is 18 years and no consideration.

    With so many quality GM candidates and so few GM openings, football fanwise, this was devastating. I can only hope he rises beyond my low expectations...like Irish, Sparano, CamRam, Speilman, Saban, and even Philbin through 2 years...have all failed to do.

    Hard to believe anything but more mediocrity and disappointment is on the horizon. And I think he article says that. 3 of the 5 points are negative, from a source I respect.

    I go with my gut always, and my feelings. I'm neither homer nor hater. I was loving football life a few weeks ago when we signed Lazor. But Ross completely botched this slow and pathetic GM search process. Another putrid attempt to hire an extremely important football professional. Hyde sites some other botches.

    My hopes and my faith have little in common here. I hope I'm wrong about all this. I'm sick of being right, at our teams expense.
     
  14. ckparrothead

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    As I'm currently in information gathering mode about Dennis Hickey, I'm a little saddened that bucscsg has been banned. I particularly wanted to find out what he knows about Hickey being removed from the Bucs draft war room after 2009.
     
  15. Itsdahumidity

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    You're not alone brother.
     
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  16. pocoloco

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    I do think Joe Philbin is a better evaluator of talent than Hickey. Wanting Lavonte David and Brandon Albert, and being suspicious of Jonathan Martin, suggests good things.

    But, honestly, if you just took Kiper's BPA for the system in every round of the draft then I think you would get better drafts on average than if you let Hickey (or Ireland) run things. In other words, if you can't get a real GM, replace Hickey with a computer and let Philbin and Co. make any close calls and let the scouts make free agency recommendations to them.
     
  17. ckparrothead

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    So I take it that several of the people who had staunchly argued in support of Jeff Ireland (e.g. GMJohnson and phinsational) are...less than impressed...by his replacement?

    Just asking. I can't afford to go sifting through posts.
     
  18. slickj101

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    I didn't think Ireland was as bad as people made him out to be.

    Hickey wasn't in my top 5 choices and I wanted Philbin gone w everyone else, save for Aponte.

    We shall see.
     
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  19. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    When you say removed, do you mean on a permanent basis or only for that years draft?
     
  20. Alex44

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    He was permanently given non-draft tasks and was rumoured to be fired after this draft/offseason.
     
  21. ckparrothead

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    That's what I was hoping to find out!
     
  22. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    The thing that doesn't make sense to me is this guy was w the Bucs for 18 years, hasn't had draft power since 09, etc.

    Why did they keep him there so long? Must have been doing something of value somewhere.
     
  23. ToddPhin

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    More 6 degrees of Joe Philbin. They first met when Hickey was a scout in the midwest and Philbin was coaching at Iowa, and apparently they bonded when Philbin interviewed with Hickey for Tampa's HC job two years ago.


    Bucs' Bryan Glazer on Hickey:
    LOL. Ringing endorsement. When you can't compliment him on his actual job performance, mention some abstract stuff that could be said about most of the guys in the league without raising any eyebrows. But on the bright side he's a "team player".... or at least that's what he wrote on his resume.
     
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  24. emocomputerjock

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    I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
     
  25. Stitches

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    Maybe Hickey was removed from the war rooms after 2009 because he had been so vocally against the players that were continually picked over his favorite guys. :confused2:
     
  26. adamprez2003

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    There is nothing about this hire that excites me. This just seems as the only guy willing to accept the job on ross's terms. But he really has a limited niche that he has to be good at. Building an OL, LB unit and find a good running back. The bucs have had success finding the ol and rbs. If he gets us those things his job will be a suCcess
     
  27. Conuficus

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    Well, the Bucs did hire Schiano amongst other inept people, so maybe not hiring him is actually a positive. If they are so *** backwards they keep hiring the wrong guy wouldn't we want the guy they don't want?

    How's that for some spin?
     
  28. Alex44

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    From all I've read he was their most trusted scout and they often went with his guys. Not always of course.
     
  29. ToddPhin

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    Stephen Ross:
    two out'a three aint bad I guess. :unsure:
     
  30. Fame

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    The pity of other teams' fans really does sting. I now know what it must feel like to be a Browns fan.
     
  31. ToddPhin

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    and apparently whom the rest of the NFL didn't want either when it came a poachin'.
     
  32. bigbry

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    Which in theory would make me believe the reason why he wasn't fired from the scouting side.
     
  33. GMJohnson

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    I'd never heard of him till he was hired so I can't really say. But I'm quite disappointed in how the hiring process seems to have unfolded.
     
  34. ckparrothead

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    During the period that their hiring practices were so bass ackward, they continued to employ Hickey and steadily promote him through the ranks. Now with their hiring of Lovie Smith and Jason Licht (two good hires, IMO)...they are strongly rumored to have been about to ditch Hickey.
     
  35. GMJohnson

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    Maybe he had some Flatulence issues?
     
  36. bigbry

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    Paradigm change could easily explain that.

    I also don't expect Hickey to crap on his former employer but perhaps he was not liking his situation there either.
     
  37. bigbry

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    Or that
     
  38. GMJohnson

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    On the bright side, it's not like he has to tear the roster apart and rebuild, deal with a bad cap situation or lack of draft picks. If he's even somewhat competent we have a chance.
     
  39. slickj101

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    Asked if someone's mom was a whore.
     
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  40. ckparrothead

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    A paradigm shift that goes from rewarding Dennis Hickeys to firing them coincides with a paradigm shift that goes from hiring Greg Schianos to hiring Lovie Smiths and Jason Lichts. Not comforting.

    He was about to be fired by his former employer.
     

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