Beasley: Philbin refusing to fire Sherman, Sherman is running the team

Those organizations may very well be run financially well. That is great. I personally don't care if our owner lines his pockets with well made financial decisions. As fans we care about the sport. Those teams listed certainly are poorly run as far as football I'd concerned.

The problem isn't you being right vs others being wrong. It is that you are speaking of two distinct things.

 

Doing what? Posting on a message board? Good for you bro.

 

Enlightening people? On what? How to be a homer? Cop out response. I expected as much.

 

I think terrible is a stretch but I agree with the overall sentiment. What I'm saying is that if poll the owners they'd overwhelmingly prefer having the highest profits vs the best winning percentage. Dan Synder is blatantly chasing $$ over wins and getting away with it. Jerry has run 3 HOF coaches out of town and clearly prefers having yes men work for him.

Ross petitioned the NFL to have them erase his team's only real home field advantage, the 1 pm early season kickoffs. In fact, if you really step back and look at it, thru Shula, Jimmy, Saban, Parcells we've had some of the best coaches and staffs around and they have all failed, the last 3 weren't even fired they basically quit. Pretty much nothing has gone right with the franchise since it left the Orange Bowl. So it's no surprise that to me that Ross is pushing hard for stadium renovations. Behind closed doors I'm pretty sure he'd admit that as of now, winning games is a distant second to upgrading his facilities priority wise.

Fans tend to focus on game results which is fine. But when you start discussing who's running a franchise properly you have to look at the whole picture.

 

I wouldnyt call Parcells a quality staffer or Saban a quality NFL coach.

Jimmy was in his twilight so I'm not sure what to make of that.

We've also had Wanny, Cam Cameron, and Tony Sparano.

 

2011, 2012, 2013, how long have I been saying Ireland wasn't going to be fired?

Its not that I don't respect or understand where you're coming from, I absolutely do. But you have a tendency to ignore what's right in your face and when people point it out you get all combative. Instead of saying, well I guess Ireland isn't so bad, you say Ross is an idiot for not doing what you want. If Ireland was fired 5 minutes from now I'd assume he deserved it and move on. I wouldn't spend the next three years ranting about how he shouldn't have been let go. But I'm a homer, apologist, devils advocate, etc.

Im not complaining, it is what it is and we are all grown men here. But don't get all sensitive on me when the digs flow in your direction.

 

It's easy to say Jimmy was in his twilight now but at the time he was considered the best in the business. Ditto for Saban, people forget that he had a team that was picked to go to the Super Bowl in only his second season. Parcels is a HOF and again, he was almost universally considered a good hire when he came in. This town has consistently chewed up and spit out some of the best that the NFL has to offer so I can forgive Ross if he's not "cleaning house" after 1 disappointing season.

 

Sounds like you could use a beer or two.

 

Since when has this been a conversation about if he would be fired? It's always been a conversation about should he be fired. And he should have been fired in 2011. He should have been fired in 2012. He should have been fired in 2013. You think it makes you right because he has not been fired? Was the Ford family right for retaining Millen as long as they did? Ireland's tenure is reaching Millen level absurdity.

But once again you're deflecting. You ridiculed a poster's opinion and refuse to provide one of your own.

 

You are correct, fans do only concern themselves with results and that is what they should be concerned with. The stadium is definitely not a concern for the thousands who take the time to attend the games. They go to the game to watch their team win the game. They don't go to the game to experience the stadium.

If as you state, Ross is more concerned about upgrading the stadium than he is about how his team is performing on the field. He should either spend his own money to upgrade the stadium or get out of the NFL ownership business.

Blaming the stadium for the decline of the team since it's relocation from the old Orange Bowl is absurd. The Dolphins had some very good teams, with very large and loud crowds during the Marino
years at Sun Life stadium. The decline in the team over the past decade has had everything to do with the lack of a quality QB except in 2008, bad personnel decisions, and very mediocre coaching.
The stadium has had absolutely nothing to do with the fact this team has been nothing but average for the most part over the past decade.

 

Ive said both, he doesn't deserve to be fired and he's not going to be fired. Right or wrong the people with all of the relevant info and the authority to make the decisions agree with me. Obviously that's too much for you to handle bc you resort to calling them idiots. Its kinda funny.

 

This teams record since Ireland has been in charge does say he is that bad.
Just because Ross doesn't have the nutsack to fire him doesn't make Ireland a good GM.

 

Good idea.

 

Still deflecting. Where's your list?

 

Ireland is the only GM in the NFL at this time who has been his position for the last five years and the team has had five consecutive years without a winning record. Obviously the inept ownership of the Dolphins agrees with you that he deserves to stay. That doesn't mean Ross is right in this decision. It merely shows that he is probably the worst NFL owner in the entire NFL at this time.

No other owner in the NFL would retain Ireland after five straight non winning seasons. So just because you and the authorities making the decision on Ireland agree he should stay. This doesn't mean it is the right decision. It only means the people in authority and the few Ireland supporters on here can't see what the majority of the fans and other owners of NFL teams would see if he was their GM. That being, he is not a good NFL GM and he should be fired immediately.

I am sure Ross will see the error of his ways after next season and he will finally have the balls to fire Ireland. Until then, it is just sad that Dolphin fans will have to experience another losing season under the leadership of Ross and Ireland. Of course as you stated earlier. Ross does not have as his priority winning games. He is obviously only concerned with the stadium and how he can convince locale politicians to
give him taxpayer money for fund much of the renovations.

 

No excuses bro, it's five o clock somewhere...

 

Here we go again. Ross is lost, an idiot, a moron, no balls...

Just say what you mean, "wah wah wah he won't do what I want"...

 

Based on attendance at home games and television ratings for Dolphin games. It is safe to say that probably over 95% of the public in the South Florida area don't care if Ireland goes or stays. Because that 95% don't attend or watch games and they wouldn't care if the Dolphins moved out of South Florida today.

So if Ross wants go on his merry way and he doesn't care what the majority of the fans want. Especially a front office that actually knows how to select quality talent. He will only continue to lose the interest of the 5% or less of the South Florida public which cares about the Dolphins at this time. Apathy is the worst thing that can happen in regards to a professional team in a city. Right now, the South Florida public is apathetic toward the Marlins and Panthers. Apathy for the Dolphins is growing yearly for the Dolphins under the present ownership.

Ross probably doesn't care that much about what the fans want and that is obvious based on how he has run this franchise for the past five years. Yet as each year passes under his ownership, less and less fans in South Florida care about his team.

 

Screw that. I dont need 5 oclock. Noon is fine with me bro.

 

He wont do what needs to be done. I mean really...how much more of Ireland does he need to see to know he is a subpar GM.

 

The way I see it is, Ireland put together a group of people who had a chance to win one of two games to inferior teams to enter the playoffs. How does some of the worst offensive coaching the team coming out completly flat those two games, Irelands fault? If we would of had better coaching, we could have won those games. Coaching is not Irelands fault.

 

Both Philbin and Ireland can be failures.

 

this is silly. regardless of his fate, you either believe in the guy or you don't. there's really no question he deserves to be fired, in fact if he was fired today I don't think one beatwriter, columnist, talking head, or insider, national or local would argue that Ross made the wrong decision. not one. everyone would agree that it was the right move, many would say his dismissal was long overdue. the case to fire him is infinitely stronger than the case to keep him. if you think the fact that he's still here means that he deserves to be here, you're dead wrong.

 

Of course the case to fire him is stronger, when your completely one sided and don't care to take everything into account. Beat writers, columnists, media in general..... There's your problem..... Your valuing their opinion to the point you'll side with them over the actual experts representing your team.

 

I think that's the point most are missing, they are both at fault for this season's failures and as such I think both deserve to be fired.