Opinion: Jeff Ireland Will Not Survive to 2014

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  1. muscle979

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    I think they'll need a 6-2 second half to get in the playoffs. Maybe 5-3 but that could be tough. All that matters is if Ross considered this a playoff or bust season. I'm not sure if he did. If not this season I'd definitely think by next season.
     
  2. GMJohnson

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    I wouldn't say I'm OK with it.

    I'd say I'm viewing the Parcells-Ireland-Sparano tenure and the Ireland-Philbin project as a separate entities.

    It's not fair hire a guy to build a shopping center then halfway thru the project tell him to tear it down, build an apartment complex instead, and not give him some extra time to get the job done.
     
  3. dolfan22

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    How long is extra time?

    When is Ireland's drop dead date?

    Surely enough time has lapsed to judge Ireland without the stench of Parcells , any odour now is his responsibility imo .
     
  4. dolfan22

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    Either Ireland is the answer or he isn't . If he is you stay the course , if he isn't the longer you wait , the longer you wait ... for success imo.
     
  5. GMJohnson

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    That would be funny. Just enough to justify keeping Ireland but not enough to appease the Firelanders.
     
  6. muscle979

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    I wouldn't say he had to tear it down entirely but I get the analogy.
     
  7. GMJohnson

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    I think 3-4 years is a good bench mark and we're midway thru season two right now.

    Ireland certainly doesn't behave like a GM with a drop dead date. He hired a guy with ZERO head coaching experience to be HC. He allowed a slew of established vets to leave then replaced them with younger guys, rookies, and future draft picks. He's not using all of his cap space or making panicky trades like the one Indy made for Trent Richardson.

    Either Ireland is blissfully unaware of how close he is to being fired OR there's a lot of fans blissfully unaware of how much job security he has.



    I don't care either way. I'm just passing time till the game starts...
     
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  8. BigDogsHunt

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    Ross PR on ESPN....no mention of IRELAND at all.....high praise offered for Philbin.....damning evidence it seems that IRELAND is out the door.
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I hope you are never on a jury deciding my fate.
     
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  10. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Why, because based on this evidence, its logical to lean this way...at this point in time????
     
  11. GMJohnson

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    No, because you're interpreting the "evidence" based on your predisposed opinion.
     
  12. BigDogsHunt

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    LOL, no....just stating where I am leaning as of now, without a PRE-anything. If it turns out to be so, I am comfortable saying today's PR was line in the sand.
     
  13. BigDogsHunt

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    I am an observer...and if this was a trial...yes, I lean one way when Prosecution goes, and lean another when Defense team goes....hahahahaa.....normal during course of that type of back and forth. However, if this was an opening statement, and there are 2 people clearly involved under that leadership, and this lead guy fails to mention/praise one, or in this case, only PRAISES one....yes, I say the other dude should be worried.
     
  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    No because you found evidence for something when there wasn't any evidence for that something.
     
  15. BigDogsHunt

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    Watch the clock as the time passes and end happens we will see. based on that presser, I would rather be Philbin than Ireland right now. You disagree with that?
     
  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    If there was bullying in the locker room and there is a big problem, Philbin should be the one who is fired.

    In fact, with the Dolphins the more praise a person gets the bigger the chance they are let go.
     
  17. BigDogsHunt

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    You think there was bullying in the locker room??? :sidelol::sidelol::sidelol::sidelol:
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    No I do not.

    I do know that of the two, I would rather be the one who is not mentioned.

    That is because it means that I do not have to be mentioned or defended.
     
  19. BigDogsHunt

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    Ok, pheww....Not me, would rather have my name praised publicly - multiple times, than total silence "awkward as everyone was clearly waiting for his name to be included" - in the same week where said name has been mentioned time and time again as "most unbelievable to still have GM job in NFL"...etc.
     
  20. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Cam Cameron was praised before he was fired, as was Sparano.
     
  21. BigDogsHunt

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    Apples to Oranges, as that is single coach at time of strife over record, etc (i.e. an annual rite in NFL)...this is Coach and GM being speculated about over scandal, and Owner goes out of his way to clearly single one out publicly in praise, and never utter the name of the utter. That is like Egyptians striking the name from clay tablets stuff.
     
  22. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I think you are reading more into it than that is actually there
     
  23. BigDogsHunt

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    It seems you are attempting to avoid insight!
     
  24. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I like facts and statements where I don't have to read into what they are saying.

    Edit:

     
  25. slickj101

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    You mean more speculation, not insight.
     
  26. BigDogsHunt

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    You remind me of the drowning man, praying to be saved, but telling the helicopter, that raft, that boat, and the swimmer to leave him be as he is praying to be saved....the punch line of buddy "please meet me halfway here" comes to mind.
     
  27. BigDogsHunt

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    A thesis "educated guess" but not simply wild speculation...atleast not equal to the statement of not being fit for jury. LOL:tongue2:
     
  28. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I am not praying to be saved.

    I just believe if Miami makes the playoffs and win a game, than Ireland will have a job next year.
     
  29. slickj101

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    Oh it's pretty wild :lol:
     
  30. slickj101

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    You're def drowining, man.

    [​IMG]
     
  31. BigDogsHunt

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    that will be the ultimate D-day....crazy to think if it all culminates in that.
     
  32. BigDogsHunt

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    Based on that presser by Ross...would you rather be Philbin or Ireland right now?
     
  33. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Ireland is part of the internal committee.
     
  34. BigDogsHunt

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    What internal committee?? Not that one Ross spoke about...the code of conduct one! He isn't part of that.
     
  35. Serpico Jones

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    I think that was more of a throwaway comment.
     
  36. slickj101

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    Ireland. His only apparent involvement was drafting Martin and a comment made after the whole thing happened.

    Philbin is more immediately involved due to his position.

    Not that I think either of them really deserves any blame in all this bull****.
     
  37. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Of course it was.
     
  38. BigDogsHunt

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    I have to believe if you put up a poll....and all the news reports about that PR by Ross tomorrow; the polls will say they would rather be Philbin than Ireland...and that not mentioning Ireland is nail in coffin. Its common sense in that setting. You mention both, or mention none. But if bash only one, or praise only one, and leave the other unmentioned, death knell.
     
  39. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Which is why Philbin had to be defended, over and over again.
     
  40. Serpico Jones

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    It felt like: well we have to give these idiots something to do.
     

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