Jonathan Martin Walks out of Practice (Freaked out)

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  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I think Beasley is actually reporting on a REAL issue though. That's a verifiable practice that happens on most teams and I'm sure some younger players really are being strapped by it. It can be very easy for older players to take it too far and financially hurt younger players. For instance, sticking a $30,000 bar tab on a broke young player seems really excessive.

    As for why bring it up now, it's because of the $15,000 allegation with respect to Martin and the trip to Vegas.
     
  2. byroan

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    Making rookies pay for stuff happens on every team.

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  3. ckparrothead

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    One would certainly hope.
     
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  4. Paul 13

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    my money is on one of the defensive backs. It's a safe bet too... that's where most of the rookies are on the defense :lol:
     
  5. Ronnie Bass

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    Its wrong all around but you do hope it wasn't someone like Don Jones who probably makes the minimum.
     
  6. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    true, this is the way the media works. woe to be an NFL head coach in this day and age. Twitter, real time news being reported instantly.
     
  7. ckparrothead

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    I don't think it's right or wrong. It's voluntary to be subject to stuff like that. There have been players that refused to take part in stuff like that (Dez Bryant) and they're no less of a superstar on their own team for it.
     
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  8. Nappy Roots

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    Agreed. But what if it's not a top rookie, which I would assume it is Dion. But what if it's Dion Sims or someone there? A 5th rounder refusing to partake is different then a first round superstar refusing.
     
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  9. Paul 13

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    it is a little funny in that the media harps on the Dolphins for being tight lipped.. now they release a statement, a rather lengthy one by their standards and the local media is saying it's bad PR. The Dolphins can do no good at the moment. Next we'll be seeing Ross call for one of those media round tables which will only be even more awkward.
     
  10. toto

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    If it goes too far it is a serious problem. I want our rookies concentrate on football, not having to fear to come to work every day and have fun playing for the Dolphins. Only then they can become good or great players. Not to mention the personal psychological aspects coming with this!
     
  11. Ronnie Bass

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    I think Bryant's status as a stud rookie helped him in having balls, but rookies who are borderline players just looking to stick with the team probably won't be as brave
     
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  12. toto

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    What if the Miami vets doesn't make it look like it's voluntary for our rookies and put too much pressure on them?
     
  13. byroan

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    Yeah, I hope Don Jones didn't pick up a 30k tab. That's 7.2% of his salary.

    Only .8% of Dion Jordan's.
     
  14. Paul 13

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    The Dolphins and the money pools, they absolutely know about most of them. In fact the assistant coaches likely help organize them. They are the ones that are teachers of the classroom. They definitely are away of what goes on with their group. Team bonding.
     
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  15. ckparrothead

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    Will the coaches give Sims any less playing time because he refused to foot the bill for the tight end unit at dinner?
     
  16. ckparrothead

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    Define "too much pressure".
     
  17. Paul 13

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    if he did, I hope he can write it off on his tax return. Not a 50% meal deduction either... but 100% mandatory on the clock meeting! :shifty:
     
  18. Paul 13

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    hah... if he did, he should issue 1099's to the other players that he "gave money" to. That would put a stop to it :lol:
     
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  19. Nappy Roots

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    No. But he may get some sort of rejection within the locker room because of it. Which is what I am saying. Sims would be under a lot more pressure locker room wise to pick up the tab, as compared to Jordan. Just my opinion. Like you said, it's not right or wrong.
     
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  20. Serpico Jones

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    Bill Cowher blasted Philbin on CBS.
     
  21. toto

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    For some it might even be too much pressure to fear not beeing part of the brotherhood any more or getting totaly ignored by the vets.

    Not to mention getting bullied... :wink2:
     
  22. byroan

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    Jared Odrick made it seem like multiple guys paid the tab.

     
  23. 77FinFan

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    I guess I'll have to reserve judgment until some more facts come out. We all know that if the team was at four wins before the Cincy game that much of this would not come up. A four game skid is going to bring out the best or worst in players.
     
  24. Nappy Roots

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    So I guess it was Will Davis that picked up the tab? A lot of money. It's one thing to make the rookies all play but make one 3rd rounder pick up a $30k tab is to much.

    Davis should of refused. By his tweet he didn't offer any resistance to it. But who knows.
     
  25. byroan

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    Will Davis makes the same base salary that Don Jones does. He got about $120k more in a signing bonus.
     
  26. Nappy Roots

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    @WillieD_effect: I just seen a dinner bill for $30,000... WOW #RookieNight


    When Will Davis says "I just seen a dinner bill" leads me to believe he paid for it.
     
  27. Rocky Raccoon

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    I agree with Paul that the truth lands in the middle. Incognito probably pushes a lot of buttons as fas as normal locker room antics go. He might have gone too far at certain times but I don't think calling it actual bullying is right.

    I'm not going to draw any conclusions until I hear from Martin himself, and the last thing I heard from him is that he was texting Incognito and telling him that he didn't blame anyone in the locker room.

    It's not fair to blame ANYONE right now without knowing the entire stroy. Right now all we have is contradicting stories.
     
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  28. byroan

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    So no one else saw the bill? Just him?
     
  29. Paul 13

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    I'm sure they all paid for it, all the rookies. hopefully a % pro rata share depending on how much they make.
     
  30. Nappy Roots

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    Ok.
     
  31. Paul 13

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    what did he say?
     
  32. Nappy Roots

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    Hopefully.
     
  33. Claymore95

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    It's easy for the media to go from that tweet to Beasley saying a rookie was handed a $30,000 tab. The insinuation is that one rookie had to pay it, and the media will be happy for that to be insinuated if it suits the current agenda. However, it could just as easily mean that Davis was handed the tab but all rookies had to club together to pay it.

    I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's very easy for stories like this to be blown out of all proportion, especially with a media that sniffs blood fanning the flames.
     
  34. Paul 13

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    you know what is interesting? This whole Mike Pouncey / Aaron Hernandez thing has evaporated from the media's magnifying glass. How awesome would it be if this was a coordinated thing to get Pouncey's name off the first page of the paper? heh.. just a coincidence that a day after Pouncey is served in New England after the game, this thing happens. Right? hmmm... :shifty:
     
  35. Stringer Bell

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    Don't see how any of these things would warrant Martin driving himself to the hospital.

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  36. Serpico Jones

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  37. Serpico Jones

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    Seems like that report about him going to a hospital was false.
     
  38. Frumundah Finnatic

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    Notice who Mando left out when he was talking about Agendas? The media.
     
  39. toto

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    And I'm not sure anymore if Cowher is wrong on this one...
     
  40. Stringer Bell

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    Seriously? Do we have confirmation of this?
     

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