Jonathan Martin Walks out of Practice (Freaked out)

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...-incognito-has-not-been-investigated-by-nflpa

Here's the link I copied it from on update. Just passed it on.

Edit: not sure if the update is from Jeff Darlington but it's in the same story.

 

Which is also disingenuous and also a lie.

 

"Investigate" is a pretty nebulous term. The NFLPA calling Martin could be described as an investigation.

Either way this looks like a mental health issue, and I'm not sure the team should discuss any further.

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Did the NFLPA investigate Saban when he sent Manny Wright to his grave? Or when he walked over Jeno James like some sort of front door mat? Cause I thought that was 10 times worse.

 

Manny Wright is dead???

 

lol well sorry for exaggerating .. but yeah
[video=youtube;QiM2U9AiQRM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiM2U9AiQRM[/video]

 

Gotta love PFT's willingness to call out BS when they smell it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...or-nfi-list-may-never-return-to-the-dolphins/

Such BS. Yeah they're not "investigating" they're just "information gathering".

 

espn just aired a segment that was pretty inflammatory to the situation. used the terms bullying, hazing and had specific incidences sited with richie incongnito. saying martin is scared and fears retribution. this is not going away.

 

Richie Incognito@AdamSchefter Enough is enough
If you or any of the agents you sound off for have a problem with me, you know where to find me #BRINGIT
8:52am - 3 Nov 13


Richie has had enough

 

This is pretty much a direct response to the attempt by Incognito and others to deny the reports of bullying.

I'd like to see the exact language use but if they're reporting that Jonathan Martin "is scared and fears retribution" then they DAMN WELL better have actually talked to Martin himself.

 

that is absolutely the language they used, very strong stance, you need to see the piece.

 

Given the revelation about Philbin's effort to release a joint statement that was rebuffed it sounds like Schefter or Mortensen did talk to Martin or (more likely, imo) his parents.

 

they sited an incident where martin paid $15,000 to richie to avoid going on a trip to vegas.... i know espn is tough to watch but did no one else see this piece???

 

Be careful what Shefter is reporting about Incognito!
He was the one who was heavily reporting the incident of Incognito hitting a bouncer and the police investigating.

Turned out that Incognito was just trying to break up a fight and he was the one who got hit by a bouncer and the police was not investigating at all and Richie was just a witness in that case.
Shefter never apologized or got the story straight and was under heavy critizism by the local media.

It looks like Incognito stepped on Shefters toe sometime in the past...

 

That's actually a really good point to bring up.

 

.the guy I would assume doesn't know how to take a joke, this is ridiculous.

 

CBS is now reporting that Martin is waiting to see if the team takes any measures to prevent further bullying, and that Incognito is the "ring leader" and is "menacing", that Pouncey is also involved in the bullying.

CBS says that Incognito has been reprimanded before for action toward team employees and that Martin is "genuinely scared" of what Incognito might do to him.

 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...n-martin-was-bullied-20131103,0,6409481.story

Looks like Richie is remembering that too...

 

I find this awfully hard to believe.

 

Don't know what's going on but I think this is the last year for both Incognito and Martin.

Martin likely won't have an NFL team. Incognito to get away from this bull****. I am honestly on Incognito's side and I don't even like him, I think he's pretty average. But come on, I honestly doubt there was high school bullying going on in the locker room..

 

Martin also posted something to the effect of "don't believe everything you read" on his Facebook page IIRC.

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Armando Salguero and Barry Jackson are taking the team to the woodshed on twitter.

 

Were basically screwed being that ESPN have shown their cards and their agenda and they won't stop pushing this story till they get the head on a stick that they want, I saw this first hand as a Rutgers fan during the abusive basketball coach story, they didn't stop till Rutgers axed AD Tim Pernetti.

Bottom line ESPN gets what ESPN wants and they want Incognito's head. This is not going away.

 

Probably waS A lot of hazing going on. Also heard the report that Cogs may have pressured Martin to pay some money into a fund for dolphins players to go to Vegas. But really, what stands out to me is that Martin is mentally very weak. I think it shows up in his inability to stand up for himself and likely factors into his inability to improve his game at this level. Throw on top of it all that the constant criticism he's faced since being selected in 2nd round probably makes it much worse if he's mentally soft. that's not to say he isn't smart. his parents are Harvard alums and he went to Stanford. But I'm surrounded by Harvard alums and I can see a lot of cases where their kids are really soft, wouldn't surprise me if Martin falls into that category. i.e., his athletic ability carried him through his college career, but he's falling short in the NFL.

 

Dang Richie is pissed now.


Richie incognito ✔ @68INCOGNITO
@espn shame on you for attaching my name to false speculation. I won't be holding my breathe for an apology

Richie incognito ✔ @68INCOGNITO
@AdamSchefter Enough is enough
If you or any of the agents you sound off for have a problem with me, you know where to find me #BRINGIT

Richie incognito ✔ @68INCOGNITO
@AdamSchefter Stop slandering my name. You hide behind "sources" who are not man enough to put their name behind the BS you report
6:46 AM - 3 Nov 2013

 

The following quote from Martin to Incognito via text message is not consistent at all with the fresh round of unattributed accusations being put out by Schefter and CBS.

"I'm good man. It's insane bro, but just know I don't blame you guys at all. It's just the culture around football, and the locker room got to me a little."

I'm not trying to take a side. I think Incognito is a d-ck personally and even though he plays OK football (nothing special, IMO) I have no problem with him being shoved off the team. I also don't really like Jonathan Martin. I'm just saying that at least the quote above is actually ATTRIBUTED, and quoted verbatim.

This other sh-t that is coming out sounds unattributed which means dark, secret sources whose motivations remain unclear passing off pieces of information which may be paraphrased and then are subject to further paraphrasing by reporters. Some of it like the $15,000 Martin had to pay for a trip to Vegas that he didn't go on seems intentionally without context. I don't know what his connection is with the situation but a guy on Twitter tweeted at me and said that the offensive linemen have a pool for an annual Vegas trip and they fine EACH OTHER for various stupid sh-t all the time to where they have to contribute to the pool. Did ESPN or CBS report that? No. They reported essentially as extortion.

 

Incognito should call his lawyer and sue. If I'm Ross I pay for the lawsuit. Message being don't **** with my team.

 

Fantastic. Another guy on twitter just tweeted this at me. He and his wife bumped into Jonathan Martin and Richie Incognito, who were hanging out together the night before the Saints game. The guy asked, does it look like these two hate each other?

 

Loosing is hard these guys are under tremendous pressure and they want to win. Being on edge after 4 losses is no surprise some handle things better than others.

 

I am going to take a guess and say the dude reporting for CBs is LaCanfora, who is hasn't gotten a single story right this year

Also this

I hope Richie sues the **** out of Schefter.

 

Well the media already hates Miami so might as well make it stick. After that lawsuit we can't complain about no highlights and negative reporting anymore.

 

Now evidently Incognito had to threaten the Dolphins to even get them to release a statement defending him.

 

Maybe Incognito should worry more about trying to make the O-Line not be the worst in the NFL than doing all this annoying $hit. They have a shot at the playoffs and the O-Line doing better would obviously help their cause. Tannehill taking 3-6 sacks per game is not going to help. Unless every team decides to play as crappy as Cincy did, which won't happen.

 

That had to be Jordan who got stuck with the bill since he's the rookie with the biggest paycheck.