1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Dolphins trade for Bryant Mckinnie

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shaunm000, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

    2,134
    546
    113
    Sep 8, 2013
    Maybe this is what the team needs emotionally to get back to winning games. Only time will tell.

    Patriots game is a MUST win for sure.
     
  2. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

    21,176
    10,130
    113
    Jan 14, 2008
    Hornell, NY
    I remember him playing pretty good for Baltimore especially during their superbowl run. Maybe not pro bowl level, but pretty sure he was voted to the pro bowl in 2011. Certainly better than Marc Colombo, wouldn't you agree? Even though you didn't then. :shifty:
     
  3. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

    2,938
    2,410
    113
    Oct 11, 2009
    Delaware
    We have to be honest from both sides here.

    Yes, this is absolutely a desperation move. Better decisions could have prevented this from ever being an issue.

    But if a conditional 7th round pick prevents our "QB of the future" from getting injured, gun shy, or just plain losing his mind, then it is worth it.
     
    Onehondo, Stitches, dolfan22 and 2 others like this.
  4. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    45,652
    19,304
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Windsor, ON. CANADA
    Yikes. I don't doubt he will be better than Clabo, I just dont think that's saying much. Hope he's the answer along the OL... Much rather wish we'd done the deal for Monroe though. The Ravens wanted to replace him for a reason, no doubt about that.
     
  5. isaacjunk

    isaacjunk Member

    83
    24
    8
    May 17, 2013
    Keep in mind too, ckparrothead had a very detailed study showing that Tannehill releases the ball very quickly on average compared to other QBs. So, if Flacco is more middle-of-the-road in that department, you could see a bigger jump in perceived performance when McKinnie plays for us.
     
  6. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

    19,893
    9,750
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Over Yonder
    PFF is proven to be a heaping load of crap. Why people still quote their rankings is beyond me.
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    Because it is the best heaping load of crap we have
     
    mbsinmisc likes this.
  8. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    39,159
    21,798
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    San Diego

    Trade? I hope that's an assumption on Armando's part. If this FO really thinks they'd get a trade for Clabo ... Clabo right now would fetch a conditional 8th in a 7 round draft.
     
  9. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

    5,525
    4,219
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    PA
    I don't care what pff says. only thing I care about is what mrclean said.

    mckinnie, 1 sack. clabo, 8 sacks.

    I think we have anothrr win already this season if clabo or martin had only given up 1 sack
     
    mbsinmisc likes this.
  10. DPlus47

    DPlus47 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    16,343
    4,501
    113
    Jul 14, 2008
    Maybe this is less of an on-field move than it is a chemistry move. Maybe the entire line will play better with hangovers on Sunday morning. Maybe.
     
  11. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

    27,269
    44,477
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    NC
    There's no mistake in logic. You claimed that 7th rounders were valuable. How many starters come from that round? We just got a starter in a trade.

    Some folks just look for ANY reason to bash Ireland.

    He's done a poor job but this is nitpicking.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk
     
    Paul 13 likes this.
  12. mbsinmisc

    mbsinmisc Season Ticket Holder

    3,009
    358
    83
    Nov 24, 2007
    Murrells Inlet SC
    I am guessing, but I would think that McKinnie will start at LT, and Martin goes back to RT. I hope this helps, I don't know how much worse it can get on OL.
     
  13. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    I doubt it. I would guess the only change will be Right Tackle.
     
  14. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Josh Kaddu is the player we have cut to make room for McKinnie. Just a few weeks late here Mr. Clean :lol:
     
  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    I have a few thoughts on this:

    This is adrenaline-in-the-heart levels of desperation. But at least it's cheap desperation.

    The Dolphins continue to be the Ravens' speedbump. Pretty ridiculous how the Ravens have walked all over the Dolphins in revenge for 2007. Now Ozzie Newsome is getting into the act directly.

    If you made a Venn Diagram of this forum, the "People Who Defend Jeff Ireland" circle would overlap partially with the "People Who Hate Bryant McKinnie" circle. I wonder what the people in that overlap are thinking.
     
  16. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Well..based on all the terribly negative reactions..I'm betting McKinney will be fine.
     
  17. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    31,608
    55,634
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    That Jeff Ireland made a bad decision? It's not really contradictory.
     
  18. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

    4,052
    2,347
    113
    Dec 9, 2007
    Sure criticize my spelling on the iphone whatever but the fact is and I am guessing your a Ireland lapdog that this teams problems are because Jeff Ireland thinks hes a great GM and half this board does as well because he got Mike Wallace (which he overpaid big time for!) hes a joke and his talent eval is horrible especially his free agent pickups. Name me a 2 pro bowlers still on this team he's acquired.

    So bash me because I hold him accountable for his actions which have us losing every season..

    He is a MORON and the number one reason we SUCK!
     
  19. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

    3,893
    3,087
    113
    Mar 6, 2010
    I just saw that Martin and Clabo allowed 2 sacks, 3 hits and 11 hurries. Something had to change.
     
  20. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

    2,073
    1,194
    113
    Dec 10, 2007
    same thing with wheeler. he could have been signed to a modest contract last year, but jeffy went with Guyton (who didn't make the team). smdh at this reactive king of a gm.
     
  21. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

    3,972
    2,062
    0
    Jul 24, 2012
    yea our ineptitude is just laughable at this point.
     
  22. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

    25,411
    5,743
    113
    Dec 6, 2007
    Playoffs!
     
  23. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    No effin kidding. A GM should have more foresight than hindsight . This is not indicative of that . Addressing the issue earlier could have resulted in one more win easily , imo.
     
    cdz12250 likes this.
  24. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

    10,281
    5,232
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Back in Miami
    Cue Twilight Zone Music
     
  25. Robert Horry

    Robert Horry New Member

    388
    405
    0
    Aug 8, 2010
    Clabo was 62 out 63 in pass blocking efficiency while Mckinnie was 45.
     
  26. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

    47,525
    72,483
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    Miami, Florida
    GREAT NEWS! Orlando Alzueguery HATES the move...which means....

    McKinnie will make the pro bowl and we will win 12 games.
     
    MrClean, padre31, Paul 13 and 4 others like this.
  27. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

    3,840
    636
    0
    Feb 26, 2013
    Decent move. We are better off than yesterday, as long as we don't lose Clabo.
     
  28. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

    79,599
    159,162
    113
    Dec 1, 2007
    Thing about pulling up McKinnie's block efficiency (which is a metric I love, by the way) is he's played left tackle his whole career. We're talking about moving him to right tackle (I think).

    If we're playing him at left tackle then that's one thing. We have some basis for translation there. If the Dolphins put him at right tackle we have none. We have no idea how he'd be at right tackle.
     
  29. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

    23,327
    35,934
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    I am thinking he will be playing LT with Martin going back to RT .
     
  30. Zeke0123

    Zeke0123 message board ******* Club Member

    5,596
    3,609
    113
    Nov 22, 2007
    FWIW McKinnie never could run block worth a crap...pass blocking has always been his strong suit.
     
  31. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

    8,365
    4,211
    113
    Jan 5, 2010
    the next dimension
    So scrub the zone blocking? It's not like we ever had the personnel for it anyway.
     
  32. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

    52,652
    25,565
    113
    Nov 13, 2009
    In all seriousness though. We haven't seen very much of this dude, being in Baltimore for the past half season, but I think McKinney will be a huge contributor to Tooties Cabaret.
     
  33. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

    79,599
    159,162
    113
    Dec 1, 2007
    I think the Miami Herald made a comment that they expect Martin to move back to right tackle.

    That experiment was quick. Lasted 6 games. I don't count last year's final 5 games because that was done in response to injury. It wasn't totally voluntary.
     
  34. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    13,969
    3,367
    113
    Jul 5, 2009
    He didn't improve much.
     
  35. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    13,969
    3,367
    113
    Jul 5, 2009
    We'll be fine.
     
  36. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

    7,760
    3,486
    113
    Sep 4, 2010
    Maui, Hawaii
    I guess this trade will be enough for the Ireland supporters. The problem of course is that McKinnie is a LT and he is being traded for to come in and take the place of Clabo. So unless the Dolphins plan to switch McKinnie and Martin, McKinnie will end up playing a position he hasn't ever played in the NFL.

    The Ravens are probably excited as heck that anyone would want to trade for McKinnie. They demoted him because they determined he could no longer get the job done for them.

    If this trade had happened a few years ago, McKinnie would have definitely been an upgrade. At this stage of his career,I'm not sure McKinnie will prove to be an upgrade over Clabo, especially if he is expected to come in and play RT for the Dolphins.

    The worst aspect of this trade is what it says about the offensive line backups now on the roster. Obviously the coaching staff has zero confidence in any of the backups to come in and upgrade this unit. When you have to go out and trade for a player who is at the end up his career and who was just demoted by the team he was starting for, this says far more about the lack of depth on the OL than it does about McKinnie being any sort of upgrade for this offensive line.
     
  37. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

    6,053
    5,608
    113
    Mar 23, 2008
    Lake Worth, Fl.
    Next up is getting JJerry off this Oline. Disappointed Dallas Thomas has no role even under this dire situation.
     
  38. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

    3,893
    3,087
    113
    Mar 6, 2010
    He jumped 21 spots from 2012. His pass blocking has gone up 13.1 points. I'm not saying he's great by any means but he is improving unlike Clabo.
     
  39. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

    8,365
    4,211
    113
    Jan 5, 2010
    the next dimension
    Any hope that Martin might actually improve moving back to the right side?
     
  40. Jagfish

    Jagfish Season Ticket Holder

    719
    253
    0
    Nov 23, 2007
    This Planet you call Earth
    Yeah I guess coaches have zero faith in Garner/Yeatman. Strange.....
     
    Hiruma78 likes this.

Share This Page