Parcells admits regret over Dolphins exit

I'm willing to concede that politics likely delayed his being a first ballot HOF, but to the original statements of whether he's HOF worthy or his list of accomplishments is tarnished because he exited each team not on the best of terms (exception being the Giants) is still beyond silly. While other HOF's having better track records with a single team, and a few others like Vermeil have done it with two teams, NO ONE, in history has a track record like Parcells. He took 5 really bad teams, turned them around, 4 out of 5 making the playoffs, with the 5th missing the playoffs because Romo flubbed a long snap for the FG.

 

Nope. Fisher's interest was legitimate. He wanted some personnel control to counterbalance Ireland, Ross said no thanks, Fisher went with his second choice.

Personally, I like Philbin more, so I think that situation worked out well for us, even though Ireland is still the GM.

 

Kind of agreed until the Ireland comment. I prefer Philbin (in hindsight) and I really think Ireland is coming into his own. I like the way he has been shaping the roster and isn't afraid to stick to his guns contrary to public outcry. He finds great role players and isn't afraid to go after the big FA. If we can agree that Ireland is slightly above average as a GM, I think that is a plus. We could've been a lot worse. Shhht, we could've had Peterson.

 

What you call "isn't afraid to go over the big FA", I call "decides to allocate the biggest salary cap hit in the year immediately after his contract expires".

But please, let's not turn this into an Ireland thread...

 

Where did I ever say he wasn't HOF worthy?

What's silly is just looking at his accomplishments and sweeping his dirty laundry under the carpet like it didn't exist. They are part of his legacy whether you like it or not. And the fact that he wore out his welcome every where he went is directly related to the fact that he was with 5 different teams in the first place.

And the Giants are not the exception. At the time Giant fans were p#ssed at him for waiting until after Belichick left for Cleveland to announce his retirement despite the fact that he knew about the heart condition well before.

 

I didn't say you said he wasn't HOF worthy, I said the original statements.
and that's a pretty minor point that you are blowing out of proportion w.r.t. the Giants. You ask any Giants fan now, and none of them care about when Parcells left. To them, Parcells is stil the biggest face of the franchise and represented the best time in their franchise history. You can likely make a similar argument about the Patsies and Jets fans.

People on this board hate Parcells, and somewhat rightfully so, so their whole perception of Parcells legacy is tainted, because they all think that Parcells burned his bridges everywhere he went. Besides Dallas and Miami, it's not true. So at best, his legacy with his last couple of teams is tainted.

and I bet no one cares about his "almost" hooking up with Tampa and Atlanta. those are business decisions.

 

I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree. You see Parcells as some white knight that swept in and saved these franchises while I view him in his total, warts and all.

 

why would he not have learned something from him over a 7 or 8 year period? I've never suggested such. I think any astute person would pick up on specific attributes that make others successful and incorporate them into his own make-up. I'm sure Ireland has learned from a lot of people over his career that helped develop the Ireland we see today.

 

...and what you call "decides to allocate the biggest salary cap hit in the year immediately after his contract expires", I call "having a long term game plan and doing what's needed to win".

 

Horizontal is a direction.

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"I had to be talked into coming there, and I didn't anticipate the ownership change," Nice quote. Anybody that needs to be "talked" into coming to my team automatically gets a minus mark. Plus its bad use of the English language. Its "I had to be talked into "going" there. NOT "coming" there. Seriously, where did these HOF coaches go to school? Shame about his exit? Shame he made an entrance imo.

 

Well you might be right considering all the advantages StL had to lure him there (potential franchise QB on the roster, massive leverage with the #2 overall pick to sell off to the highest bidder, or the rights to RG3 if Fisher didn't truly believe in Bradford, the opportunity to hand pick his GM, the fact that his agent was the father of the Rams COO, more cap space, avoid having Belichick and Brady in your division etc etc) ...given all that it's actually surprising that he took so long to decide when you think about it...I mean that decision was a complete no-brainer.

 

Grammar now? Really?

You have to add the context. He already agreed in principle to ATL. He was headed to ATL. He had to be convinced to spurn Arthur Blank. That's why he had to be talked into the Miami gig.

 

Stay with me here because I'm going to make a crazy but I think very good analogy and those of you who have read the book will probably agree. So based on the TV show that just started on CBS, I just started reading the Stephen King Book Under the Dome. Bill Parcells = Jim Rennie. Tony Sparano = Pete Randolph. Jeff Ireland = Andy Sanders.

Jim Rennie = the guy who builds a puppet regime around him with the sole purpose of taking all the heat if anything goes wrong. A blowhard, self righteous **** sucker evil super villain. But boy can he rile people up and get them to do his bidding.

Pete Randolph = Absolute idiot dope of chief of police that was brought in after the previous guy died. In way over his head, an absolute puppet, and not very bright.

Andy Sanders = First selectman of the town who enacts all of Jim Rennies plans and takes all the blame when they go wrong.

I haven't seen the show yet, but when I was reading the book I absolutely likened Jim Rennie to Bill Parcells. I'm about 3/4 through and it's phenomenal so far. You all should read it for a chilling comparison to one of the ****tiest Dolphin regimes in franchise history.