Be nice. Effing with the book readers is like effing with your waiter, they'll make you pay. Now apologize to these nice gentlemen for not ruining future seasons.
There is a part of me that wants to spoil things. But it's not that I want to ruin things for people. I like the discussion. There are more things that us book readers could have posted that would have helped TV viewers understanding of what is going on. I honestly don't know how TV viewers do it. This wiki appears to be spoiler free, though: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Game_of_Thrones_Wiki
Yeah, 3 OMG moments and then a lot of just really awesome stuff. Spoiler Did the battle at the wall happen at the end of 3? I think some of it spanned into 4, which might be the only cool thing that happens in that book. That will be where the TV show has a chance to keep that season great if they really just turn that battle into the epic battle it should be. I picture it being reminiscent of the Lord of the Rings Helms deep battle which I'm sure may have influenced Martin with that part of the book. And like you, I really think they dropped the ball not having the 1 vs. 1 battle for that middle city with Strong Belwas. Doesn't seem like a hard scene.
I'll tell you the wildlings' plan and put it in a spoiler so you can decide if you want to see it or not. I won't put anything about what parts of the plan succeed or fail. Spoiler Only a few wildlings scaled the wall. The plan is for them to sneak around the gift and make their way to Castle Black. Castle Black was not built to be defended from the south side of the wall. It doesn't have the type of defenses normal castles have. The plan is for them to sneak up in the middle of the night and slaughter the Night's Watch at Castle Black. Afterwards the plan is to open the gate so the actual wildling army led by Mance can just march through into the south.
Yeah I keep hoping maybe he shows up, kinda like how the Reeds showed up much later to the party than they did in the books. He does seem to play a pretty significant role in the later books. Spoiler Wasn't he the one who defected ?
Brock Klein @BrockAK77 George RR Martin likes to give kids lollipops and take them away just to make them cry. Then for good measure he beheads their parents #got Travis H Moore @xdoctortx Why doesn't George R.R. Martin use twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters. #got Lee Dowell @leedowell That just goes to show the importance of choosing the correct band for your wedding. #GOT Joan of Snark @chocobohomo I do appreciate how the producers were like "People are gonna need a minute, so let's maybe not run any music over the credits..." #GoT
Spoiler No the defector was Brown Ben Plumm or something like that. Someone else who isn't in the TV show. As a matter of fact in the book Brown Ben is the leader of the Second Sons and Daario Naharis runs the Stormcrows.
Tonights episode was OK it moved the story line along nicely but kind of fell flat as a season finale.
Last week was your finale... And every episode 9 before it. The "finale" on GOT is designed to do what you said, move the story alone. This way, episode 1 of season 4 can get moving rather than deal with the ramifications of the finale. Unlike season 3's first few episodes, the lack of introductions to new characters should make season bang from the jump.
I enjoyed the episode. It was never going to reach the heights of last week, but it had a lot of good scenes which moved the story along and set up next season nicely, especially the now more widely spread knowledge of the White Walkers. Will be interesting to see how that affects the character's actions next season. And they showed the missing book part of the Red Wedding after all, although it wasn't as bad as I imagined it would be and I think it was more shown so that we could see Arya's reaction.
Biggest disappointment of the show is that it's only 10 episodes long & you've to wait another yr or so to see what's going to happen next. Guess it's time for me to read the books. -Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy S4
Arya is growing, her relationship with Hound is very interesting.....he's starting to respect/care for her. Ingrid shooting Snow was terrifying. Hopefully Jamie is a better person now that he's back to kings landing. Khaleesi is gorgeous and going to come to **** soon. Kings Landing and everyone else better prepare they're anus'!
book readers Spoiler As to the last sentence. Poor guy. We are looking at about 3/4 seasons before she sets foot in Westeros if it follows the books. You gotta wonder how they are going to handle that.
Spoiler I've been wondering the same thing. It seems like they are way ahead on Dany's story and she's either going to have a lot of extra material written or is going to be seriously loitering for a long time.
lol. Sorry man. I can't be too careful now after I accidentally let slip the wolf head on Robb. I do like your takes though
Ep 10 Show spoiler: Spoiler Arya's kill scene was my favorite. You knew all along (non book reader) that she would turn into something more than your average girl with her learning to wield a sword, her befriending Jaqen, and the exchange with Mellisandra to name a few of the ongoing foreshadowing. She is full of anger and fueled by vengeance and now she has her first kill. The beginning of many. The look on here face was stoic. As if she knew she just leaped a hurdle that was an inevitability. The exchange after with the Hound was great too. "Next time you plan on doing something, let me know" - takes back the knife that Arya swiped from him. I predicted they would form a great friendship and it looks like that may be the case. I have a feeling the Hound is going to escort Arya to a ship where she will ultimately sail to meet up with Jaqen again as that too is an inevitability. "Valar Morghulis"
I'm wondering if next year it would be better to have two threads, one with spoilers including book discussion that would more or less be a free for all and another for non-reader and otherwise unspoiled TV discussion. I'm just not sure if each thread would have enough momentum
More for book readers only: Spoiler It's not as if the things she does at Slaver's Bay are uninteresting but yeah the TV folks are clearly expecting to her jump on a ship for Westeros soon. They don't seem to have any idea that she's about to settle in to spend some time ruling her "children". I wonder if she's going to finally decide to go west in book 6. Assuming her dragon fries her enemies who ran up on her at the end of book 5.
I don't think its been bad with the book readers at all. I think they've been excellent in being careful. Chances are if a non book reader read a spoiler its because they read something clearly denoted as a spoiler. And the thing with Rob and the wolf's head is not a spoiler. How do the book readers feel about the way they played up the importance of being guest AFTER the red wedding, with Bran's story?
It's nowhere near as bad here as I've seen it elsewhere, in fact there's really been no spoiling here at all. The poster that mentioned the wolf's head did it because the RW had been shown, completely understandable mentioning the book version at that point. I've just seen three huge spoilers today on a different website, where an article was asking what people thought of the third TV season, and so of course a couple of comments in someone decides to drop a spoiler or three for the next season. It's got to the stage when I think I may avoid certain websites' discussions of GoT.
Yeah, but I have to admit, overall its been pretty good over most of the internet. I purposely do not read comments on GoT articles, because well, the habitat of the Sexless American Douchebag happens to be tropic estuaries and comment sections of all internet articles.
I think it was probably the best way to explain it. It might give it away if they mentioned it prior. I don't recall that the explained the bread and salt thing. I suppose if you were to watch the two episodes again it would all come together. It's a lot to ask of the audience, imo. The Rat Cook story is a bit odd...I mean a guy being turned into a giant rat for violating the guest right. But the point that it is so taboo was conveyed. Another thing I would like to add is about Daenerys. I can't spoil it since I don't know the end, but the show seems to be treating her a Jesus figure. Something worth paying attention to.
A Song of Ice and Fire(just speculation) Spoiler the suggested title of the books lend me to believe that the Starks and Kahleesee will be the ones standing at the end. Regardless of how bleak things look now. What good would it be to have things easy on the heroes, with no seemingly impossible adversity. Both have been to hell, both have facea unconquerable odds. both are suggested by the title. It seems it's going into a very supernatural place and the two strongest will be the cripple mind reader stark boy, and the mother of dragons. I imagine that kid will be able to mind**** dragons by the 7th book, and pwn all. Or not.
