Jason La Canfora: The Miami Dolphins are overhyped

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  1. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Unfortunately it's not just about those 2 kicks. He's had only one good year [2009] and the rest has been average at best.

    His career average of 81.9% would be good for 23rd last year; however his last 3 year average of 79.4% ranks him as one of the league's most unsuccessful kickers statistically. Last year, his 81.5% ranked 26th; meanwhile half the league was 87% or higher, a number Carpenter has topped only once in 5 years.
    His touchback percentage on kickoffs ranked 14 last year so even that wasn't spectacular.
     
  2. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Basically, Carpenter cashed in on a good 2009 season after a promising rookie outing and hasn't remotely lived up to that $8 million contract.
     
  3. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    So you're now reformed?
     
  4. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Good point.

    I am still one of those idiots.
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wow, I was not aware of that, you can't mess with stats on kickers..lol
     
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  6. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Nope, certainly can't Deej.
     
  7. Jt0323

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  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I dont understand who is overhyping the dolphins, we've had the best offseason so I guess people are just twisting things, my expectations are 9 and 7, and I'd be real happy.
     
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  9. PhinishLine

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    This. Hard to overhype someone without assigning an expectation. Though our offseason entailed a lot of transactions, there is no expectation being attached. No one is saying playoffs or anything. The only question people ask is, "Can we compete with the Patriots?" Then everyone unanimously says, "No." So at this point, I'm kind of confused where the overhype is. If anything is overhyped, it's RG3's mutant healing factor.
     
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  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    "The Miami dolphins have a really tough schedule, I just don't know, they have the Cleveland browns, who have ray Horton and norm turner"

    Heath Evans...

    That's the third time I've heard him mention the coordinators names of the browns when talking about our tough schedule.

    I guess he thinks Sherman and Coyle are scrubs, and they have a better Qb situation than us..

    Lol..
     
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  11. Alex13

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    wasn´t ray horton DC at the cardinals last year ? how many yards did tannehill throw for ? 430 something....yeah we are put on notice
     
  12. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Even in 2009, he was 7th in the league in FG%. Our former kicker Mare was 3rd that year.

    Carpenter is very expendable. His contract makes it even more so. Time will tell if Strugis is the answer.
     
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  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's the funniest thing I swear, he doesn't give any more analysis that that, never anything on the players on all three occasions, just blurts out the coordinator names..lol, stutters during it as well..

    I'm convinced he sees red when it comes to talking about us.
     
  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yeah he was, and yeah he did.

    It must be the combination of turner and Horton that is the key though Alex...

    Maybe he forgot how we play the run..
     
  15. RoninFin4

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    Wasn't Heath Evans the one that reported the story about Nick Saban walking over Jeno James when he was convulsing on the floor outside the locker room? I wonder if Evans' feelings towards Miami stem from that.

    Also, with respect to John Denney, the other long-snapper, Patrick Scales, was already waived on May 15th. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7088/patrick-scales
     
  16. djphinfan

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    John Denney is always perfect at his job, and gets down the field to help make plays, funny to me they even brought in a scrub.
     
  17. byroan

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  18. Sethdaddy8

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    Didn't we net cap space by swapping them for Dansby and Burnett? Yeah, he failed to mention that.
     
  19. FanMarino

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    fighting for a Wildcard spot? I'd take that. We've made moves to get us competing to win more than lose. If The Phins are projected to be a "portential" winner in any game we play in then we have made steps. Its called progressing. This team wasnt built this offseason to suddenly win the AFC let alone the Superbowl. I think it's more the press and certain reporters not liking or being uncomfortable with Miami getting offseason headlines.
     
  20. ckparrothead

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    Doesn't that kind of make it not-so-surprising why he feels the Dolphins are overrated then? If he's watching free agency unfolds and sees the Dolphins give three very big contracts to players that aren't worthy of them, isn't he likely to end up feeling like the Dolphins are going to be overrated?

    I just wonder why everyone seems to make this assumption that someone is down on the team only because they have an axe to grind, and therefore the cart is always coming before the horse like Jason La Canfora has decided the Dolphins are overrated so he's just piling on with more critiques of the Dolphins' contracts and moves in free agency...when in all likelihood it was his disapproval of those moves that led him to believe the Dolphins are overrated.
     
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  21. ckparrothead

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    The conference features Tom Brady and Peyton Manning still in full flower (see their success in 2012) PLUS the team that actually, ya know, won the Super Bowl...and this is the weakest the conference has been in a long time?

    Sorry, scratching my head on that one.

    Ben Roethlisberger and Phil Rivers are still hanging around out there, and then there's that damn pesky guy everyone was saying was the best QB prospect to come around in 30+ years, you might have seen him playing in the playoffs with a team that was the worst in the NFL twelve months earlier...
     
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  22. emocomputerjock

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    We only play all of them save Peyton this year too. Good thing it's a weak conference, or we'd be in trouble.
     
  23. ckparrothead

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    Thank god we also drew some easy competition from the NFC. I mean, who REALLY thinks Matt Ryan is any good, anyway? Only communists and Irish terrorists. Drew Brees definitely over the hill. Cam Newton was always overrated, shouldn't have even gone 1st round...
     
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  24. Larryfinfan

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    yeah, well it's his brethren in the press that are making such a big todo around what we've done this offseason... He said a few things that all of us know are true:

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    Ok, true...
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    Ok, true...I think most of us have covered this one way or another...
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    Ok, true (see 1996). Some may argue that it's rather ambiguous a complaint tho...
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    I think that's been talked about once or twice...
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    I think in our threads about this team, very few really thought we'd caught up to the Parasites...

    Well, I believe that just about every point he made has been hashed and rehashed on these boards... Very few of us think that we are ready to oust the Parasites, Ravens, Stillers just yet... I think most of us have agreed that as Tanny progress, so this team will progress. There are other questions besides QB (secondary, RB, OL). Martin, Yeatman, Clabo, Clemons, Jones, Marshall, Grimes and various others have all been nauseatingly and painstakingly dismantled as to whether they are the 'answer' at their various positions... Any hype built up about this team has come from guys like LaCanfora and the rest of the media hounds. Even our local beat guys have been skeptical to some extent about who, what and where...

    Big deal...just another media guy that hasn't done his homework on our team yet...
     
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  25. padre31

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    He can "feel" whatever he wants to feel, it doesn't mean anything at all.

    I'd be far more concerned if we were being hyped without playing a single game rather then hearing we are overrated without playing a single game.

    One fallacy I do see is comparing Wallace to Williams and Anderson, apples to oranges.

    We needed a proven, explosive deep threat at Wr, Wallace is well under 30 and exactly the deep threat we needed. Williams was something of a head scratcher for the Bills to pay so much to sign.

    When all along, their problem was at DT and they added Wanstadt who was far more proven then Ray Horton ever was as a DefCord.
     
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  26. Alex44

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    You mean Mr. I dont read the defense I play action and chuck the ball deep?
     
  27. ckparrothead

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    ...wow...
     
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  28. padre31

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    Don't know how he does it, Wilson makes it work, he has done since his NC State days.

    Some guys just make it happen.
     
  29. LBsFinest

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    This might be the dumbest statement I've seen written on this forum yet.
     
  30. slickj101

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    It's not really a mystery. He's got great mobility and he buys time for his WRs (who are pretty good in their own right) to make plays or he does it himself. So far his decision making has been very good as well.

    Marshawn Lynch certainly doesn't hurt anyone's game either.
     
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  31. Sethdaddy8

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    I have never liked Phil Rivers. I think he and Cutler are in that not terrific, sometimes gaudy, but often terrible class. Those guys are producing a lot of mediocrity. Manning, Brady...those guys don't do mediocre...ever.

    And if you take away preposterous supporting casts, I don't see Big Ben putting anything on his shoulders.
     
  32. RickyBobby

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    I have no doubt Wilson will progress, he is just that type of kid.

    Add Percy Garvin and bolster their passrush and running tame.

    The NFC West is going to be sick this year.

    Even the cards could surpass a lot of teams this year
     
  33. GMJohnson

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    I'd just like to point out that you're on a Miami Dolphins message board asking why everyone is skeptical of people who are deemed overly critical of the Miami Dolphins. That seems self explanatory. A better question would be why are you on a Miami Dolphins message board defending LaCanfora, Heath Evans, and anyone else who's criticizing the Miami Dolphins?

    I think it's common knowledge that national news peeps deal in narratives and generalities. LaCanfora has 32 teams to report on, he doesn't have time to watch Wheeler's snaps from the last year or two in order to make a judgement on whether he deserved his contract. Ditto for Ellerbe and Wallace, though perhaps to a lesser extent since they're at least on TV a few times a year. Point being, he's a reporter, not a coach, scout or talent evaluator and not in a position to serve as an accurate judge of the topic he's brought up here.
     
  34. MikeHoncho

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    Until they prove this clown wrong on the field, I'm more inclined to believe him.

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  35. djphinfan

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    elitely talented to escape the pocket, to make an individual play, while keeping eyes downfield..

    Rodgers..Kap..RG..Wilson..Luck..they all have this unique element in their skillset..it's a beautiful thing to have..
     
  36. djphinfan

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    Rivers descension was an easy projection, completely overrated from the get, not even a debate anymore, for him to have any chance to succeed at a high level you better put all your resources in the oline because he needs a very clean pocket to function..

    I expect a bit of a rebound from his poor years of qb'ing because by now his weaknesses are so evident they shouldn't be ignored anymore..
     
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  37. PhinishLine

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    I'm picking up what you're putting down up until the Colts part. Might have been the most obvious tank job ever. They were better than what they put on the field.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
     
  38. CANDolphan

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    On the flip side though Miami loses to St Louis if one of the best kickers last year didn't shank two makeable FGs... so it goes both ways.
     
  39. CANDolphan

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    Whoa now I remember a thread where a respected draftnik was all about Tom Brady being completely washed up within 2 years, so obviously he AND Peyton will be done, no? Or is that train of thought over with now?
     
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  40. GMJohnson

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    How do you think Tannehill fits into that group? I know his scrambling ability isn't on par but as an overall QB? Reading defenses, progressions, arm strength, accuracy, decision making, leadership, etc?
     

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