Asked for his release and got it acorrding to Sirius Radio. He sais he is healthy and ready to work. I think we should work him out. He was once a Probowl caliber center but maybe he could move to guard!
Eh, might be a nice backup to Satele for C but as for guard, maybe. Depends on his health and strength.
True, but it depends on whether Bentley will want to play Guard or be a backup C. He will want to start no questions asked.
Mckinney can do both so why waste a roster spot on Bentley? I think the guy has had way too many injuries and is still not in shape. Example http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx Rotoworld says that the Browns asked him to run some 40s for part of his physical, he had times in the 7s. No Thanks. I can't see him starting over anyone when hes that beat up and worn out.
Bentley was a far better player then Mckinney and Mckinney isn't healthy right now. What's the matter with a little competition
And hes all done. Mckinney is coming back from an ACL injury but is way less damaged goods then Bentley IMO. The problem with competition is that we already have an 84 man roster that needs to be trimmed to 80 so why bring in a guy that everyone knows has no chance of making the final roster?
He had a knee injury and then had a staff infection how can you say Bentley is done, but you know Mckinney can play? Right now Bentley passed a phyisical can Mckinney?
Bentley ran a 40 in the 7s. I think thats all the argument anyone needs to say we dont need him on the team. I dont know if Mckinney can pass a physical or not at the moment, but I know Bentley has been on the decline for quite awhile and a staff infection is a sure fire sign of laziness and not taking care of yourself in 90% of cases. We dont need any lazy or washed up people on this team. So I say no to Bentley and if Mckinney cant pass a physical then he can see the door too. People see former Probowler and jump all over it. If most guys were still able to perform on that level then they wouldnt hit the waiver wire.
A staff infection came from inproper sterilizing of the instruments used while he was in surgery. It's the doctors faults not Bently's. Bentley was also doing individual drills right now. He wasn't declining when he went to clevland. Clevland gave him huge money to come and be the anchor of there line. He got hurt in the second practice and hasn't played since. Get your facts straight. I like Mckinney but Mckinney is not a legitimate reason not to bring in more competition
I've wanted Steve McKinney on our roster since he first came into the league (took a while though). I'm just saying, if no one wants to sign Bentley to an offer, might as well give him a tryout.
Not true, it can also come from not being hygenic (not changing bandages or pads after youve bled and sweated into them for a long time). Dont you think if the reason he got the staff infection from a doctors mistake that he'd of filed a huge lawsuit? Certainly if that was the case then he would of done something for them being the reason he contracted a potentially fatal infection. Not to mention hes had 4 surgeries for the same injury while sidelined. Doesnt that seem a little unusual to you? That alone is a huge stat for why I and many others believe hes going to have too many problems to make an impact. 4 surgeries and he still cant run a 40 in under 7? Yikes. Hes not an upgrade at the position so no point in bringing him in.
He is very upset with clevlands doctors that is one of the reasons he has asked for his release. As per sirius sattellite radio clevland has an abnormal amount of staff infections. Bentley is upset because he believes he almost lost his life and they were talking about amputating his leg because of this staff infection. Your argument was we have Steve Mckinney and then you say cut Mckinney. Obviously you can't come up with an intelligent argument as to why we shouldn' t bring him into camp. Worse thing we do is cut him! And if he is healthy he could be a huge upgrade at whatever guard position Smiley doesn't play.
Dont try to insult my intelligence. Did I say you made a stupid comment? I said cut Mckinney IF he cant hack it. It's my opinion that Bentley already cant because of his poor conditioning after having 4 surgeries on 1 injury. Why bring in another guy whos out of shape? We dont need to just bring in bodies like that. It really isnt competition when you have guys out there who will get blown up in a hearbeat during a game.
For the right price, why not? We have no veteran leadership on this line, we still have a montley crue of a OL like weve had for years. We have never brought in a marquee OL save Frank Middleton and Stockard McDougal. Yes, neither one worked out for us, but they were also under different regimes that didnt have OL coaching as a top priority(as evidenced by Tony Wise being here), even when it was a glaring problem.
Cleveland has had a rash of staPH infections. http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/04/cleveland_browns_receiver_jure.html
Justin Smiley I know, but once one player has a staph infection it can spread with sweat, blood, spit etc. It could def be something in their training facility that is continuing to spread that funk around. If I was on that team Id be showering 8 times a day.
One of the two or three surgeries he had was to get the staff infection out. Why do you insist on saying this guy is fat and lazy. Doctors told him he would never walk right again and he rehabbed hard and proved them wrong. Doctors told him he might lose his leg and he proved them wrong. Doctors said he would never play football again and he was practicing after passing a physical tueday. I would say you would have to be a very hard worker to overcome what LeCharles has. I'm not saying your not intelligent but you haven't given me one intelligent reason why we shouldn't bring him in.
Everything you just said is my reason. Hes had multiple surgeries for a serious injury and is still in poor shape. He may be a hard worker, but the reality is that he is still not in football shape so thats why I say he wont make the cut.
Didnt say he was. I was just pointing out that our new FO wasted about 28mins into FA to address our huge needs on the OL with a veteran player. I feel like our problems on OL have been and will continue to be taken care of under our new regime.
If he is a hard worker it won't take him long to get in shape. If he is healthy he is a probowl player. That is why it is worth the risk! What is the worst thing that can happen by bringing him in? We may have to cut a player we were going to cut anyway?
But we dont have adequate depth to begin with. We still dont have a solid guy for LG/RG depending on where they put Smiley, and Murphy is still quite raw. Beyond those two question marks, its anyones guess. I would bring Bentley as long as hes willing to play at a discount rate.
I know Konrad had a bursal infection. Seau Im not sure about. He didnt look like he was a big fan of showering so it could of been anything.
I dont think Bentley will play at a discount rate, or be an immediate impact player. My whole reasoning is why bring in Bentley when hes obviously not close to being ready? Id rather let Murphy or one of the other young guys get more experience before Mckinney takes over (if he can). Spanos could hopefully back up Satele if we commit Mckinney to guard.
Now that's a legitimate argument. I don't agree but you make a good point. But saying we have Mckinney and calling a man that has gone through so much adversity and come out the otherside swinging fat and lazy is not.
It depends if we know when his last surgery was and exactly how he got the infection. Often times it is being lazy and neglectful that spreads staff so it is a possibility. I give him credit for overcoming this as much as he can, but the reality is that he still has a looong way to go.
Smiley is coming of a torn Labrium or tendon in his shoulder and he had season ending surgery and Mckinney isn't healthy either and I believe is older then LeCharles but both of them were givin a chance. Why not give a possible probowl player who has passed a physical an opportunity.
But from whom are they going to get that experience from? Coaches can only get some far. Players need a role model to look up to, to emulate, someone to show them how its done. This is why Jason Taylor is still important to our defense, despite our current position.The offense, more so than the defense, lacks veteran leadership at just about all positions. There should be at least one or two bonafide leaders on that side of the ball. Whoever our QB is, and someone else. Not one player on our offense is ideal for that role.
I'm not sure on the date of Bentleys last surgery, but I know that Mckinney tore his ACL last September, so nobody expects him to be at 100%. We know that ACL tears take awhile and we're assuming he'll fully recovery. Bentley with that god-awful 40 time, what shape is he really in? My reasoning is that this is an indicator that he may never get back into good enough shape. It depends on how long ago he had his last surgery, but it stands to reason hes had a lot of time to recover. I think hes looking for one more big payday by asking out of Cleveland and possibly hurrying back onto the active list.
I agree with needing rolemodels. But I do think our coaches (Sparano being a former OL man and OL coach) could definitely bring them along. As far as another experienced guy on that side of the ball I would say look to Big Vern Carey.
Thanks, thats what I was referring to earlier. Something about this whole thing just doesnt seem right. Maybe there was something else going on in Cleveland we dont know.
Bentley had to run 20x40 to pass the physical for a start, hence the slow time. No doubt it would have been towards the end of the test. This bloke is headed for either the Vikes or the Raiders according to the latest reports. He is a Pro Bowler and a top OL, why would he back up on a poor team like us(Dolphins)? All his medical were caused by a staph problem, the knee operation went well.
Bentley, healthy is better than any center or guard we have right now...the question is "Is he really healthy ?"
Slick...I hate to break this to you, but there are probably a thousand players not in "football shape" right now...the offseason conditioning is not football shape... I don't know the reason he had troubles with the 40 times, but I can guess that if he's been working to rehab that knee, he probably isn't ready to compete right now. That certainly doesn't mean that by TC or sometime during TC he won't be ready, knee providing...Your assertion that he's done may not be true...IF and it's the one single question about him, if he is and can stay healthy, he's better than any interior OL we have on the roster (and that includes Carey if we were able to have a better RT and move him to back to guard).... I'm not a proponent of picking him up at this juncture...first, I don't think he'll want to come here when he can go to more promising teams, second, like you I'm not sure he can stay healthy even though all of his current issues are a result of one injury and the resulting staph infection. To correct a staph infection they have to remove the affected muscle and tissue, basically leaving a hole where the infection was....that requires a lot of time for a professional athlete to rebuild that missing muscle...How far along he is in that process is what any team would have to have a conviction on to sign him. As to the issues with the Browns, they didn't have his services for two years. They've got a replacement for where they wanted him initially. I can understand why they let him loose. He wasn't in their plans.... If we were a team that didn't have to 'rely' on him right now, I'd say take him in a heartbeat. But to think that he wouldn't be an upgrade to this team if healthy, is wrong...
