Free Agency Thread? Free Agency Thread.

so is the word ALTERNATE. I knew a guy who knew a guy who was an alternate for a kidney transplant. He didn't make it either.

 

I've actually seen Hartline command that type of respect.

 

The only time he gets covered that much is when Mrs Hartline tucks him in at night.

 

I don't see how the kidney transplant story relates to this.

Hartline may not have participated in the Pro Bowl. He was still an alternate, which makes him Pro Bowl worthy. Hence, calling him a Pro Bowler. If you want to see him in the Pro Bowl, just wait until next season.

 

No, I've seen Hartline doubled, which opened up the middle of the field for Bess and helped Miami pass for a first down.

You don't respect Hartline. Actual people in the NFL do.

He is a Pro Bowler, after all.

 

Must.resist.out-of-context.comment.

 

I was thinking about going next year now that you mention it. Perhaps I can sit next to him.
.... but then again at his soon-to-be $33 million contract he'll be able to afford the good 50 yard line stuff, front row seats to land a Calvin Johnson autograph.

 

Ha!

 

Yup, you won it with that joke.

 

i c wut you did there, bastage

 

the thought of paying Hartline 7 mil/year is so ridiculous I can hardly contain my laughter, not even our dumb *** GM is that stupid. you can pay Domenik Hixon 1/3 of that and he'll probably give us more big plays and more TDs. hell you can probably give Jennings the same exact deal and we all know he is a far better WR.

what we should do is just sign a Wallace or Jennings and then draft a WR 1st round. rookie wage scale pays the 12th pick like 10 mil over 4 years which means the rookie is like 2 mil against the cap next year. hmm, 10-12 mil total for Wallace/Jennings and Cordarrelle Patterson or 15-17 mil for Wallace/Jennings and Hartline? that's a no-brainer to me, with the 5+ mil we save with option A we can use that money to sign a corner or pass rusher or TE in free agency. and we can draft another WR in the 2nd-4th rounds and pay them peanuts.

 

the way that's outlawed in 49 states? That's all I could come up with. I don't recall ever seeing him actually bracketed.

 

26, started a lot of games for us, 15 ypa, good teammate etc

As a GM, you may love Percy Harvin's explosive ability, however if you need a Wr and your putting your franchise on the hook for 30 plus million, who do you go with?

Headcase or Mr Consistent?

This is why I suspect he receives that type of money, the Jags rolled the dice on Laurent Robinson on the heels of his 11 Td performance (with Romo throwing him the ball) and overlooked his long injury history and it bit them on the ***

Wr like Hartline one would feel sure he'd go all 16 games making him a better bet for the $$$.

 

That's the same way that the overwhelming majority of double teams in the league occur. The number of guys who are frequently getting designed double teams are way smaller than what gets thrown around here to minimize the guys who don't get it.

 

Are you saying he has a higher tolerance for pain, is immune to concussions, and has indestructible ligaments, tendons, joints, and bones?

 

Nope, am saying he has missed very few games in his career here.

 

You know what they call double coverage on Hartline in the NFL?

A: Busted Coverage


Hartline is a solid possession guy for sideline throws and he finds holes in the zone alright. But any focus on him and he disappears.

 

I have a hard time seeing Miami letting Hartline get away. But if he were to leave, my first guess for destination would be New England. Hartline is one of the very few WRs in the league smart enough to play WR in that offense.

 

So why didn't that happen more often this year, given he was the best receiving threat?

 

if you can paint the wall with one coat, why use a second?

 

From what I gather, they place a pretty big premium on intelligence. Lloyd is a pretty smart player, but even he makes a lot mistakes.

 

I don't think NE really cares much about taking the top off the defense. They desperately need a WR that can do what Deion Branch used to be able to, and Brian Hartline can IMO. I don't think the price is going to be a big deal, because of how particular they are about WRs.

 

Or Stl, Pats are in win now mode, but think they let Welker walk and sign Bline or MAYBE Amendola.

Their issue is 3 guys eat most of their cap, Bline would virtually have to sign at a discount to land there imo

 

I agree with CK that Lloyd is very similar to Hartline. What they've been lacking since Moss is a wide receiver who is an actual threat on the outside. Hartline does not fill that hole.

 

I think they got rid of Moss because they wanted to go away from that style of play.

 

I agree with this. With how much NE is paying Gronk & Hernandez, I don't see how they can pay Hartline to do a job that leaves them short of the offense's needs, which IMO is helping to stretch the defense to give those tight ends more short & intermediate space to operate in. Gronk needs a compliment, which is a quality vertical threat IMO. I'd have to say that's why, of all the receivers they could've signed they brought in Chad Johnson and then Brandon Lloyd.... and Stallworth isn't exactly a slow poke.

Agree with Stringer's point, too, about their need for a guy who can absorb and execute in that offense, but I don't see that trumping the need for a field-stretcher to where they prioritize Hartline just b/c he's a smart player.

 

There is a distinct possibility that the Dolphins will be left with only Chris Clemons to show for the 08' and 09' drafts.

Explain to me why we shouldn't form a mob and head down to davie if this happens?

This will happen of course, if the NFL values Long, Hartline and Smith, and we fail to retain any of them.

 

B/c they are mediocre to good players?

I'd keep Bline if possible, otherwise we are not exactly approaching powerhouse status with those players

 

Yes, they changed the offense.

If this were the case, they'd have simply just found another WR that could make plays down-field. We know they always have draft ammo to acquire someone like Julio Jones. Who exactly did they replace Moss with? What resources did they use to find someone with Moss' ability?

 

Julio Jones, Vincent Jackson, Dez Bryant, etc. There have been lots of guys with elite physical talent. They haven't gone after any of those types. What they have gone after are smart players that can make the necessary reads a WR needs to make in that scheme.

 

I mean if you go through all the WRs the Patriots have signed since Moss left, I don't really see physical ability as being the common denominator. Even the guys that did have physical ability were past the point in their careers where they succeeded because of it. Just strikes me as the type of situation where they want WRs that are smart, consistent, reliable, etc., not necessarily great athletes or specimens. Thats really Brian Hartline to a T.

 

Yep, I also think they go after Bline or Armendola as both fit what they do.

Edelman is also FA this yr, but they may have Woodhead penciled in to replace Welker

Branch was washed up when he went back there