Ten Free Agents the Dolphins Should Pay Attention to......

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  1. CANDolphan

    CANDolphan Well-Known Member

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    It's a massive reach IMO. I just flat out do not like Eifert in the 1st round. I do not understand the obsession with this guy. I'm convinced he's a decent playmaker at the college level playing on an hyped up team. Nothing more.
     
  2. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    luckys top ten list:
    1) Brian Hartline
    2) Brian Hartline
    3) Brian Hartline
    4 Brian Hartline
    5) Brian Hartline
    6) Brian Hartline
    7) Brian Hartline
    8) Brian Hartline
    9) Brian Hartline
    10) Brian Hartline
     
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  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I get it, that was just who I would look at, and compare..

    Shoot, if its me brother I'm rebuilding the offense..

    My offseason at this point is to redesign the offense and I'm committed to that.

    If I can start my draft with a combination of Sheldon Richardson/Dion Jordan and Tyler Eifert/Eddie Lacy I'm gonna be very happy...I'm definitely adding Greg Jennings, and I'm looking at Robert woods at 2 b..

    And Al, there ain't no way were getting both free agent receivers..let it go man...just let it go...lol
     
  4. Fin D

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    Why do you hate TDs so much?

    You know TDs are different than STDs...right?
     
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  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    disagree on all counts..
     
  6. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    why do you hate white people so much?
    You know white guys are the only thing that will go for a chunky woman like yourself.
     
  7. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Flagrant lie. I can prove it.

    You're not white.
     
  8. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    that means I just used you for your spacious trailer. stoooooooooooooppppppppppiiiiiiiiiidddddd
     
  9. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    Gentlemen, I would ask for a little decorum, but it appears that is all you both have - a little!

    If we could pick up one of the DEs who could pair with Wake, that would improve our pass defense a bit. A good CB (or two) would even more.
    There appear to be a number of WR in the draft which could support one picked up in FA.
    But, we need ball skill people on both sides of the LOS now! WR, TE, CB, S - I don't care if they come by the draft, FA, or being picked up by UFOs in Wyoming.
     
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  10. Boik14

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    I agreed right up to the last ellipse (...). I think you may get 1-2 good years out of him but hes either 3 or 4 on my wr wish list behind wallace and bowe (and possibly welker should he hit FA). Leg problems and injury issues worry me from a wr. GB is known as a pretty cheap franchise but Jennings has been a good solider (right up to his sisters tweets). Those guys are younger, better, and less injury prone. Jennings hasnt really been healthy in a year and a half. If he comes cheaper then expected fine but he better not be the headline name wr we sign or we are going to be right back looking for a go to wr in a year.

    William Moore or Goldson would be ideal imo but Chung could be a good buy low guy. Usually the guys NE lets walk are mediocre players but i just think he was a poor fit scheme wise for what they do. Phillips is good but very very injury prone. id only sign him as a backup. Delmas could also be a smaller risk, high reward signing. He's still a young guy who has had 2 straight injury prone years.

    Thats so long ago I question its relevance. Hes been playing in a 3-4 scheme for his whole pro career (6 years) and hes only 250lbs. Kruger at 6'4"/270 is a more natural conversion imo and hes 3 years younger.
     
  11. Finsanity247

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    Finley and Mike Wallace equate to explosiveness...
     
  12. Finsanity247

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    Sean Smith is the one free agent I would really like us to resign. Sure he needs to make more plays but as a #2 corner is more than solid. Release Richard Marshall and that pays for half of Sean Smith's annual cap hit. Jake Long, Chris Clemons, Anthony Fasano, and Reggie Bush can all walk. I'd like to keep Randy Starks and Brian Hartline if the price is right but let's see it all play out.
     
  13. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I think the Jermichael Finley thing seems like a no-brainer if he gets released.

    I think you need to give Ryan Tannehill some explosiveness and reliability. Not just Mike Wallace. That's explosiveness without the reliability factor. If people are thinking to sign Mike Wallace AND re-sign Brian Hartline, then I don't see why you don't just go with Wallace and Jennings instead. Jennings is going to cost what, maybe $1.5 million or $2.0 million more than Hartline? Yet I think he's a sizable upgrade.

    But in reality I don't think I'm all for signing two guys. I think Mike Wallace, Dwayne Bowe, Greg Jennings and Brian Hartline are mutually exclusive options at the wide receiver position based on price tag.
     
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  14. Finsanity247

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    I agree 100%. It very doable to sign Jennings, Wallace, and Finley. Signing the three would cost roughly $25 million out of the $46 million you have. Due that then cut Richard Marshall and Sign Sean Smith. Your sitting on $18 million to sign draft picks and fill holes.

    Jennings won't cost much more than Hartline and is twice the player.

    Plus doing all the above makes the draft fun. Dee Milliner? Tavon Austin? Dion Jordan? Possibilities are endless...
     
  15. DrAstroZoom

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    Nice work, but I would move Keller much farther up the list; unless, of course, Finley is released.
     
  16. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

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    Definitely fired, if Ertz is still on the board. :)
     
  17. CANDolphan

    CANDolphan Well-Known Member

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    You and I seem to have the same feeling, Ertz is the clear cut #1 TE over Eifert.
     
  18. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

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    I was really feeling ya on this post till you said that. IMO, the Bills franchise Byrd anyway, but more of a nickel back? I think you are probably in possession of the decided minority opinion there.
     
  19. MrClean

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    Good suggestions. If we signed those 3 instead of Long, Smith and Starks, it could probably be done for at least a third less the cap space, giving us room to make a splash at WR and TE.
     
  20. Fin D

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    All I read was that you think Lucky's "decorum" was little.
     
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  21. MrClean

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    I think he's #1, but not by leaps and bounds. DJ thinks Eifert is much better than Ertz, while I don't see much separating them, though put Ertz a little ahead. Daniel Jeremiah, former college scout for the Ravens, had Ertz going 13th in a recent mock draft, and Eifert going 30th. So, if we were to take Ertz at 12, it wouldn't be some wild and crazy reach IMO.
    Have to see what free agency brings though. If GB cuts Finley and we sign him, then I'd say no TE until at least the 3rd.
     
  22. PhinGeneral

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    Where did you see they're 1.1 million under? ESPN had them with 15.7m in cap space a few weeks ago.

    They're going to lose a lot of players, no doubt, just by re-signing or franchising Flacco. But I still think they're going to find a way to clear enough room to re-sign someone like Ellerbe.
     
  23. Shamboubou

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    I'd like us to go after Keller and let Fasano walk. I think he brings the recieving aspect that we really need, you pair him up with Clay and I think you have 2 very good pass catching TE's. I would be fine with either Wallace or Jennings. I think your going to pay much more for Wallace, and Jennings is going to come in being familiar with the coach so he may end up being the better option. Our first pick has to be the best WR in the draft, I like our chances at getting that pick.

    With those additions I think your really make a weakness of the team this year turn into a threat next year.

    On the defensive side of the ball I would really like Byrd. I feel like you can usually find some good DE's in the draft that can put some pressure on the QB and some lower round guys that can really suprise you. Saftey on the other hand I feel like takes a long time for a rookie to really pick up at this level so bringing a guy like Byrd in here would be huge.

    This is my dream/realistic scenerio. Still probably not very likely, its a lot of money to spend in FA. On the same hand, no point in having all that open cap room and not spending it.
     
  24. MrClean

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    It looks like Shouright has hijacked Lucky's profile.
     
  25. ckparrothead

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    I think his lack of range makes him a little bit of a liability especially on run plays. I think that's one reason the Bills were #2 in the league in 20+ yard runs given up in 2012, #3 in the league in 2011, and #5 in the league in 2010. It's just tough for me to imagine having a great run defense and preventing opposing backs from breaking off big runs when your free safety runs in the 4.7 range. The Bills run defense was giving up 4.3 yards per carry in 2008, that shot up to 4.7 yards per carry when Byrd took 666 snaps in 2009, was up to 4.8 yards per carry when Byrd took 930 snaps in 2010, then 5.0 yards per carry in 2011 and 2012 with Byrd taking 1041 and 1047 snaps. That could of course be a COMPLETE coincidence. But I've seen enough run plays where Byrd as help man just couldn't get there...that I think it's not that coincidental.

    Yeah I get it, I'm likely to be in the minority on that. But it has always made me uncomfortable with Byrd and it continues to make me uncomfortable with him. What he does for the passing game is undeniable but what you give up in run defense makes me scared.
     
  26. djphinfan

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    poppycock
     
  27. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

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    There are 11 players on a defense, so I find it hard to fathom that the fault of their leaky run defense falls primarily on his shoulders. He does also do the main thing I'd want DBs to do, he creates turnovers. We shall see how much a run defense liability the Bills consider him when they make him their Franchise Player. That is, if he does not sign before free agency. Also, he runs in the 4.6 range, not 4.7, but the 4.7 does make him sound worse, so why not go with that. He also reacts much quicker than most, so his field speed is going to be better than most safeties who can outrun him on a track.

    If you want to point a finger at a safety, why not George Wilson the strong safety, who also became a starter about the same time Byrd did?
     
  28. MrClean

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    balderdash.
     
  29. CANDolphan

    CANDolphan Well-Known Member

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    And luckily, in a short 2-3 years we can come back and laugh about how wrong we were... 1 of us was. Or hell maybe they both will fizzle out. Either way haha
     
  30. Ludacris

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    Ireland might take a look at Michael Bennett, that DE from the Bucs. He was coached by Sherman at TA&M so there's a connection there. Aside from that, bennett has really come along. He has improved every year after being a UDFA. He became a starter as a 4-3 DE and had 9 sacks last year.
     
  31. djphinfan

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    yeah, we won't know for a bit, but it's fun regardless..I would bet that Eifert goes first..and becomes the better player though..and then I shall run to the top of a mountain and scream from my loins, I am the pontiff!!!!
     
  32. RevRick

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    Yeah... a little, but it is decorum, not decoration.
     
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  33. CANDolphan

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    Well I'd hope you'd think both of those things haha!

    Where do you think Eifert goes, and where do you think Ertz goes? Do you have them neck and neck or one top 20 other top 40 kind of thing?
     
  34. Silverphin

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    I'll take 1, 2, 4, and 8.
     
  35. RickyBobby

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    Yeah I really like him. Living in st Pete I get to see all the Bucs away games and he really has stepped up.

    And he probably will not be signed bc Bowers came back last year and play well.

    If we sign him it would open up the draft possibilities as he would be a quality starter opposite wake. And he would probably come cheaper than Kruger or Michael Johnson
     
  36. Ohio Fanatic

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    If we sign Keller (which is one of my top 2 FA choices) and have Keller and Clay as our two starting TEs, then we need to try and grab someone like Vollmer to solidify the line so we are not as dependent on TE blocking like we were with Fasano
     
  37. Ludacris

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    Good point as I forgot about Bowers. If they don't re-sign Bennett and let him walk they can replace him with Bowers, which wouldn't be a bad thing. Ireland should really go for this guy.
     
  38. VanDolPhan

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    Conner Barwin fell way off this past season despite all the attention given to J.J. Watt. Barwin scored a whopping -19 with PFF.
     
  39. ckparrothead

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    Do you just naturally assume that everyone who argues against something you believe is doing everything they can to lie, cheat and steal in order to convince other people that you're wrong? Put down the grimey headband and half-loaded revolver. Jeez.

    He ran a 4.68 at his pro day. I call that "in the 4.7 range". I don't think I'm all that unjustified for that. If he ran a 4.63 I would call it "in the 4.6 range".

    Very well could be. I didn't say the STATS were conclusive. In fact I said they could be completely coincidental, but that I have SEEN enough plays where it was Jairus Byrd who was too slow as the help man to prevent a run from breaking out for big yardage, to where I think they're not.

    It's called a difference of opinion. Take a pill or something.
     
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    Totally disagree, recall Byrd made that fantastic int on THill in the game last yr?

    He was just barely shaded to that side of the field and showed outstanding range and ball hawking to pull in that Int to seal the win.

    I'd take him in .001 of a second, THAT is the sort of player we need imo.

    Not "oh gosh, he ran a blah blah", wanna guess what Ed Reed runs today?

    Anywho, playmakers, CClemons ran a 4.37 and could not intercept a pass if you coated it in stickum
     

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