The OFFICIAL Trade Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Trades' started by Mach, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Shoot at least let him lube up for ya....
     
  2. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    but his box is full... I'm not going in there until he evacuates.
     
  3. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Hey Paul, ummmm, why's your vasoline out while you're chatting with us?
     
  4. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Paul's pretending like he's never pushed in another man's poo. :pity:
     
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  5. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    "phinsational has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

    Hard to respond if you don't clear out your inbox/sent msg's
     
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  6. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Inbox cleared out.
     
  7. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    So how am I doing for a rookie GM?

    Acquired Kendall Langford, Paul Soliai, Early Doucet and Brooks Reed

    Let go T.J. Ward, Phil Taylor, Billy Winn and Trent Richardson.

    Moving a 3-4 and my defensive front is almost complete with the additions of Reed, Soliai and Langford.
     
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  8. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Most folks will probably give you some grief for moving Richardson for Langford ... For whatever reason skill players are highly regarded in this league (though WRs are more valualbe than RBs). I just don't understand why Paul would trade for Richardson when he has Steven Jackson on his team.
     
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  9. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    S.Jax is a FA
     
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  10. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    Where have you been... GIK paddled Paul's *** with his swastika over the release of Jax :lol: I'm pretty sure he's going to Miami now....
     
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  11. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Jackson is being moved on I would imagine given the contract and age when compared with Richardson. Paul's deal on that alone saved him over 1.5 million, which he then used to help pay T.J. Ward.
     
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  12. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    RB is also one of the easiest positions to fill as well. Why not move him?
     
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  13. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    yeah, it appears SJ39 is a free agent... I actually think the Langford / Richardson trade is fairly equal. When Con approached me with the trade, I actually thought he was messing around at first. Then I did my research... Richardson didn't set the world on fire in Cleveland last year, there were murmurs that he was turning into a bust at the end of the season. He wasn't getting along well with the staff. Playing with two cracked ribs doesn't help. Is he another Ronnie Brown? A back drafted in the top 5 who won't live up to that draft status? His salary is fairly high. It's possible Con had a mid 2nd round grade on him and Langford. That's not that far fetched.
     
  14. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    And I'm not going to judge how another team is doing. They are painting their mosaic in a matter of what 10 weeks or whatever it is? Can't judge any team based on one trade. You judge the trade itself... but overall, lets wait and see.
     
  15. sports24/7

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    For someone who supposedly isn't making any trades this year Paul certainly has made a lot of trades.
     
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  16. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    only two... not like Buffalo or Cleveland
     
  17. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    He is in limbo so to speak. He cannot be traded and we'll find out about his player options before tags are due.
     
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  18. ToddPhin

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    hmph, so then why'd you trade for him? I might have to put this down as a knock against you come judgement day, Pauly.
     
  19. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    How many do you know that want IN of those two cities? Hmmm?

    And you wonder why we have so much ammunition in trades?
     
  20. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    I'm part of the camp that think RB value is lolworthy, but I'd have shopped him around first because there are others who will pay up huge for a RB, if that makes sense.
     
  21. ToddPhin

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    I wish more GMs would list their wanted player positions in their trade page to make it easier for the rest of us to figure out trade possibilities.
     
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  22. ToddPhin

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    Anyone switching defensive schemes this year? I think BK is.... and Con as well, right? Anyone else?
     
  23. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    Philly
     
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  24. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I'm being nice... not one to spike the football when I score a touchdown. :shifty:
     
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  25. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    not going to give that information out for free. oh sure, I need this this and that...
     
  26. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    wow... now that's a trade
     
  27. Sean

    Sean FIST PUMP ON!

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    I like to make the headlines
     
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  28. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    heck of a trade for the Broncos. And I'm not just saying that because the 9ers are in my division... or am I? I mean they do shave some salary off their books, but IMO both Gore and Crabtree are worth those salaries.
     
  29. ToddPhin

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    Not sure you actually looked at this trade beyond the surface.

    Decker and Crabtree are close to a wash..... plus Decker is a bigger & more physical target, which San Fran is lacking. The difference in salary does make them a wash IMO.

    Gore is a great back but will be 30 this year. Derek Wolfe was the #36 pick last year and is a 22 year old beast <with 6 sacks & 42 tackles as a rookie>. I just ensured San Fran's outstanding D remains stout up front at DE in the future which is more important than Gore, especially when there's an offensive line that can open holes for Mach to run through.
    That leaves trading a 1st & 7th for a 3rd & 5th.

    In the end, both teams got what they wanted.
     
  30. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    and?
     
  31. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    i'd take a 1st over a 3rd and 5th, advantage 49ers
     
  32. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    heh.. yeah I had it backwards... still... there is no way on god's green earth that Crabtree equals Decker. I like Wolfe too... but Gore > Wolfe IMO.
     
  33. GridIronKing34

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    I'd take Crabtree over Decker but Gore is turning 30 in May... he isn't a spring chicken anymore. I think I'd take Wolfe over Gore considering how it's much easier to find a quality running back these days... especially when you have a good offensive line.
     
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  34. ToddPhin

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    Decker had to compete with Demaryius Thomas for catches and still had 85 catches, 1064 yards, and 13 TDs.
    Crabtree had Manningham (10 starts and was on IR), Kyle Williams (3 starts), and a 35 year old Randy Moss.
    Crab finished with 85 catches, 1105 yards, 9 TDs.
    I'd give the edge to Crabtree, but not by a lot. Hence the necessity of draft picks involved to balance it out.

    I agree, Gore is better than Wolfe at the moment.... but I didn't make that trade thinking the NFL would cease to exist after 2013. :p
    Let's see how 2013 turns out before saying a 30 year old Gore > last year's #36 pick, the 3rd DT drafted.
    Sounds like you're treating a 1st round pick as though it's irrelevant.
     
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  35. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    someone is still upset his team lost the Super Bowl on Sunday...
     
  36. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    heh... as one whore said to the other... well i guess that's the biggest one so far.
     
  37. Conuficus

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    Hey guys, new trade posted.

    Edit: I didn't realize what the trade above mine was until just now. Holy ****, that's a trade.
     
  38. ToddPhin

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    that's a cheap shot, man!

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  39. Sean

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    I think it was fairly even, considering who is throwing the ball on my side of the ball. It sucks to lose Wolfe, but DT's run so hot and cold in this league, not saying he will, but I was willing to take the risk, especially for Gore. How I looked at it is:

    Decker= Crabtree
    1.28+(pretty much a 2nd)+7th+Wolfe= Gore (late first value-high 2nd, in my mind)+3rd+5th

    In my mind, I pretty much dealt a late 1,high 3, late 7 for a late 1, late 3, late 5. It was pretty much a completely even trade, and we both filled needs, replaced at the WR position, and made a hole in another.
     
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  40. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Con's Browns are just too busy with the trades. We are going to have to put a temp freeze on his trading. Actually, I love that he's so active. It gives me goose bumps.
     

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