What is the Fins biggest weakness, going into this off season?

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What is the Fins biggest weakness?

Poll closed Mar 5, 2013.
  1. WR & TE

    77.3%
  2. DB

    3.4%
  3. OL

    3.4%
  4. Pass Rusher

    8.0%
  5. other

    8.0%
  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Hahahahaha

    I forgot, you believe Shou's bs.

    Tannehill was not our biggest weakness.
     
  2. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I don't believe I actually said this?????????
     
  3. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    You're right. My bad. I misread your post. All apologies.

    However, I still disagree. QB is always a teams biggest need till you have a starter for the next year.
     
  4. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    I agree with you. See my clarifications above.
     
  5. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Sooooooooooo, the Colts biggest weakness is Luck.
     
  6. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    You'd have to be incredibly wishy washy in your evaluation to take a QB in the first round one year, have him start immediately, show good potential (by all accounts), post decent, comparable stats to what many consider some of the best QB prospects in decades despite an obviously inferior receiving corp and then claim that QB should even be mentioned in any discussion of your biggest needs or weaknesses.
     
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  7. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    There are exceptions to just about every rule. ;)
     
  8. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    No, but I think its worth pointing out that when RG3 was injured, Kirk Cousins (who the Redskins received a boatload of criticism for drafting) pretty much kept their season alive with a game winning drive against Baltimore, then on the road in Cleveland.
     
  9. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Weak.

    You also didn't school me in anything. You posted a link to definition and than refused to explain how your numbers translated to anything meaningful...per usual.
     
  10. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Nobody is saying that you don't want a good back-up at any position, but it would be ridiculous to claim that getting any back-up is the team's biggest weakness unless your team is just loaded.
     
  11. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I'm just saying, if someone makes a blanket statement that anything under a qb rating of 80 is the teams biggest weakness referring to tannehill's 76.1 but Luck's 76.5 doesn't mean that, then that person is full of ****.
     
  12. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Other than the fact, that Luck was given more responsibility, RT played as well or better than Luck by almost every individual measure so if QB is even in the conversation for Miami's biggest weakness than it is also in the conversation as Indy's biggest weakness.
     
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  13. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    I'm surprised you spent so much time in the thread, then. :headscratch: ;)
     
  14. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Stay tuned for "Part II!" :)
     
  15. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    ...and how do we know that for sure? :headscratch:

    Oh, that's right, we have a thread on it! ;)

    Stay tuned for "Part II." :)
     
  16. WVUFinFan

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    I agree that no receiver is worth reaching for at 12. I hope we would at least attempt to trade down more into the 20's range and maybe take a chance on a Terrence Williams or even Tavon Austin. I think Austins stock is going to rise after the combine once all scouts see how fast he is. If we cant trade down then I do think we go with pass rushers since we could land either Mingo or Jordan who both had good bowl games.
     
  17. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I'd be fine with either of those pass rushers in the first (also a few others). My favorite receivers in the second would be Deandre Hopkins and Stedman Bailey. I also like Austin, but I think he's more limited positionally. I would still consider him b/c he's so dynamic, but I'd prefer those other two WRs.
     
  18. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    One person voted OL. shouright, care to explain?
     
  19. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    I voted "other," meaning "QB." But that was before I clicked on the original post and saw what the guy was actually asking.
     
  20. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Really?

    Not trying to be a jerk, just wondering if there was evidence to the case. I remember listening to John Clayton and him saying that even though RT wasn't playing as good as Luck, RT did have more command of the offense with more calls and audibles.
     
  21. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    IMO your QB is your biggest weakness until you have one who has proven he can play at a sufficiently and consistently high level in the league.
     
  22. Fin D

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    Going by attempts only, which contrary to Shou and his ridiculousness can be gotten not from his thread but literally anywhere else that shows stats, then Luck had a 150-ish more attempts than Tannehill.
     
  23. I can see how this offseason is going to play out..... Shou is going to take every opportunity he sees to hijack threads into talking about the fact that he thinks RTs play needs to improve.
     
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  24. Providing a rookie QB all the tools he needs to reach his full potential as soon as possible becomes your biggest weakness after you have decided on a QB. Unless you are ready to call him a bust and move to a new one.
     
  25. shouright

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    Right, but that isn't significantly more than Tannehill, is it? :headscratch: ;)
     
  26. LBsFinest

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    our biggest weakness is the same ****ing weakness we had going into last offseason...but apparently Ireland is perfectly fine with having 4's, 5's, and 6's.
     
  27. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    If Clayton said that, then he was wrong. It was pretty obvious that Luck had a greater range of audibles and a greater variety in his passes. Sherman even admitted that he limited RT's responsibilities and his playbook while Arians stated that Luck had far more responsibility than Manning had that first year.
     
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  28. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    It doesn't tell us anything. Jesus christ, why is talking to you like punching myself in the junk?

    For the billionth time, do you have the sack or mental acuity to explain what that means in the real world? No, no you don't. Just as every other stat you posted never translates to anything meaningful.
     
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  29. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    I have nothing at all you would consider valuable. You win the pissing contest. ;)
     
  30. Tone_E

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    I know bud. Sarcasm didn't make it through I guess. :wink2:
     
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  31. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    we do need playmakers at WR. but the 7th in league in sacks is misleading. the best way to beat the Tom Bradys, Mannings, Rodgers in this league is to either have a QB than can outduel them (not likely in our future) or rush the passer. Tom Brady has all day against us because Belicheck knows all he has to do is stop Cam Wake. Elite pass rush is a formula that is proven to work vs Brady. Right now, we have one good pass rusher and that's it. it's not enough. going from a good defense to a great defense keeps you in the game everytime (see San Fran and Seattle). right now we are the former.
     
  32. Stringer Bell

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    Not just about finding a back-up. Its also about mitigating the risk that the QB you have doesn't develop as you expect. Certainly Tannehill at this point appears to be on his way to becoming a very good QB, but that doesn't mean its a certainty. And to be clear, I agree with you in that there really wasn't much difference between Tannehill and Luck this year. My philosophy applies to the Colts as much as it does to the Dolphins.

    No idea how someone being full of anything is relevant or productive here.
     
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  33. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    it's interesting that the OP decided to combine WR and TE. I wonder how the votes would break down between them. probably three to one towards wide receiver?
     
  34. Stringer Bell

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    Personally I'd say that both are about equal. As it stands now, we have Davone Bess as really the only legitimate WR under contract, and Egnew/Clay at TE.
     
  35. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    the next dimension
    I voted other, their biggest weakness is their logo :shifty:
     
  36. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Runningback isn't the biggest need, but it almost certainly will be addressed.
     
  37. schmolioot

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    No one who actually watched a game, rather than looking at a stat sheet could possibly say this with a straight face.

    Care to ask the Colts if they'd like to trade? Maybe get a "coupla picks" as well?
     
  38. Stringer Bell

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    Fairly certain Rafael watched the games. Just a hunch.
     
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  39. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Then he should know how ridiculous that statement is.
     
  40. Stringer Bell

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    Apparently not, considering he made it?
     
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