The Talent Surrounding Ryan Tannehill: Part II

To me, YAC contributes enough that we should be in the playoffs if we had more of it b/c there were a handful of plays in close games that could've easily resulted in YAC touchdowns had our receivers possessed true YAC ability, but they don't, so those points never made it onto the board.

 

this thread was started on christmas eve and already has 43 pages....uhh...did you guys spend all your christmas on thephins?

 

Brian Hartline=Pro Bowl Alternate
Reggie Bush=Pro Bowl Alternate

 

More importantly, how many folks should have been breathalyzed prior to posting in this thread?

 

Because, you're asking me why a hypothetical stat isn't correlating with an actual stat.

I'm sure if they did drop a lot of passes it would be reflected. Since they didn't, I'm not sure what you want.

 

.... and you've yet to prove the opposite, not even remotely close..... but for some foolish reason you arrogantly believe the motto of the thread is, "I'm right until anyone proves me wrong b/c I created the first post", despite your argument being entirely circular and not having proven jack crap other than the fact you're clever enough to think to yourself, "Hmm, what stats can I dig up that make our terrible starting receivers look comparable to the league's best?".

I'd like to ask you a question in advance of next season. What will your argument become when Hartline & Bess are both either demoted from their current positions or fired?

 

..... this coming from the guy using a sample size of just 3 QBs in his opening post and choosing 2 baseless stats to draw a conclusion with.

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lol at the thought that great receivers don't help the passing game. Didn't you say yourself that Tannehill could benefit from a seam TE? How would he benefit from it if not in the passing game.

 

Let me ask you something does the offensive line play a significant part in how successful a running game is?

 

On paper it might not, but in the actual game itself it does. For instance, Dez Bryant breaking a 7 yard hitch for a 50 yard TD b/c he stiff arms his DB and then runs to daylight for the score absolutely has a positive impact on both the game and his team's passing efficiency, especially when compared to a guy like Hartline who is most likely tackled upon first contact to where the drive then has a greater likelihood of ending in either a FG or punt than a TD. Ditto for a Percy Harvin catching a drag underneath where he beats the defenders to the corner and then outpaces them for a 60 yard TD, where as Bess is tracked down before he can even reach the corner.

IMO it's quite conceivable to see upwards of a 10+ point swing in passer rating (full 16 game season) depending on the quality of playmaking ability, or lack there of.

 

This aint MAC1140, how about some game film?

I figure it's a good idea since that's what the actual players and coaches use to evaluate themselves.

 

LOL. you've yet to prove your "theory" to begin with so there isn't any need for us to prove you're wrong.

 

In a word, no. It's what the game film shows, not the numbers. We ain't balancing books here, brobeans.

 

You mean you haven't seen any fancy charts that prove it to be so? Got ya.

 

If receivers are so irrelevant why did THe Patriots sign Moss? Why did the Falcons draft Julio Jones? Why did Cinni draft AJ green with a top 5 pick?

 

yup, just as we'd need a fancy chart to show Dan Fouts was one of the NFL's greatest all time passers despite his QBR ranking 62nd.

 

He is just amazed that you can't even acknowledge that the passing game involves more than one person.

 

I'm sorry you don't understand the question. If the qb is the end all be all of the passing game, why bother with high picks on wrs?

 

Well he could just provide numbers with zero context like you do.

 

um the qb throws the ball to a receiver who tries to score with it.

the receiver is one person and the qb is another. 1 +1=2

 

Omg no more pseudo intellectual posts by you. Thank god. Can anyone tell me how to ignore a poster? One night of pretentiousness from shou is enough.

 

Watch some game tape, preferably with someone who can explain how blocking can affect the success of a run play or how WRs affect the pass game.

I'm begging you .

 

"cherry picked". LOL. What I found were EXAMPLES, period, examples that shouldn't exist if your ridiculous "theories" actually had any merit. I'm not looking to find a TON of examples to prove the affect the surrounding cast has on its QB & offense (b/c all of us here but YOU already know this relationship to be true); I only needed to dig up enough examples to prove you're full of ****.

 

Off topic, how do I change my profile pic and signature? Thanks for the help?

 

But then for NE & Atl you would have to acct for # of offensive plays run by each vs how many we ran to even be comparable

Plus iff their support is better you would expect points to be higher. But hey not cherrry picking
Again you. Believe your point is fact? Prove it