The Talent Surrounding Ryan Tannehill: Part II

There is no work to do.

Your hypothesis is defeated by the most basic concept of two people are needed to catch a pass. Other than that, there is no way with numbers to prove you used the wrong stats to get a correlation, because the basic concept is flawed...deeply so.

 

WADR ur nuts. Stats my ***, A Brown is a dangerous WR who can make plays on deep balls, turn short passes into long gains and is a quality punt returner to boot. The Steelers gave him that deal even though they already had Mike Wallace on the roster. The same Wallace that many of us are hoping to acquire. So tell me, if we had Mike Wallace on the team would be worried about The Hitman Hartline? I thinks not.

Hartline won't see 8 or 6 or 5 Millie a year from any team, 4 Millie is overpaying but I won't rule it out. I look forward to you guys returning from fantasy land.

 

You need to do the same thing if you're going to make a whole thread about it. Are you completely ignorant to the fact that your statistics are just fabricated and don't conclude anything?

 

Theres too many exceptions out there to give your rule merit.

 

Going by your rule it concludes that the top 10 passers this year are:

1 Johnny Hekker
2. Mohamed Sanu
3. Golden Tate
4. Shaun Hill
5. Kyle Orton
6. Tim Masthay
7. Derek Anderson
8. Jeremy Kerley
9. Mike Williams
10. Chase Daniels

These 10 are ranked the higest out of 80 other players. That alone creates a 12% anomaly in your rule. We could go through all 80 and find more.

EDIT The point is that you are not using an objective study to make your case.

 

Basically Shou is saying that having an AJ Green type receiver makes NO difference in terms of scoring points. A receiver or TE doesn't help a qb at all.

 

The same thing everyone else is doing: telling you that you're wrong.

If there is something in your brain that makes you think that, because people post in a thread, they automatically must agree with you, you really don't know how social interaction works. You're 40, though, so I doubt that's the case.

I remember my first beer, but ****.

 

So a great receiver won't help Tannehill?

 

Can someone please explain to me how this thread has reached 23 pages?!?!?!?!?!

 

It'd be sinful for me to let a friend of mine go through life by the dogma of the statistic deeming David Garrard a superior player to Johnny Unitas.

 

You guys want to keep *****in' about a lack of talent?


I give you Super Bowl winning WR Phil ****ing McConkey...






Now stop all this negative nancy nuance...

 

Still more respectable than the methodology in the OP.

 

There list is not wrong it is incomplete. I got my stats from nfl.com http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING

The 10 players I listed all have a QBR above 108, Rodgers's is only 106, clearly if you are measuring based on their QBR then there is 10 players better then him this year. GB Should think of maybe dealing with Dallas for Orton or make Det an offer for Hill

 

The confidence interval for such small sample makes them meaningless.

 

Meaning what?

 

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confidence interval...elaborate

 

Meaning that a passer rating based on 3 passes attempted is statistically insignificant.

 

Its a measure of how reliable the measurement is. Its like how when you see polling done, they will provide a margin of error. The higher the margin of error, the lower the confidence interval.

In this particular case, having 1 pass, or 3 passes thrown does not provide a reliable passer rating.

 

Does posting stats from only 3 QBs on just 15 games for only one year provide for a high or low confidence interval when making sweeping proclamations like Shou has done?

 

Which proclamation are you trying to determine the confidence interval for?

 

Agreed and that goes to my point that there other factors in the evaluation other then just the QBR. Just as the number of passes attempted can skew the QBR so can who the ball is being thrown to as well as other factors. None of which he factors in. Shou is self annointing himself as being the definitive authority on QB evaluation based on his charts and he is building them from a flawed foundation. I have pointed this out to him numerous times in this thread but instead of simply acknowledging that there is room for flaw in his equation the only thing he offers back is smug little remarks that imply he is so much smarter then anyone disagreeing with him.

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Oh...this one:

 

I don't really see where you are going with this. The numbers he posted were statistically sound. How those are interpreted is pretty much up to each individual.

 

Unfortunately you can't assign a confidence interval to someone's interpretation of certain statistics.

 

So if started a thread about the effectiveness of J. Lane in the running game, and used field goal stats to prove it based on my own interpretation, it wouldn't get moved out of here for being utterly ridiculous?

 

you can say that for almost any statistic. Any as in any in existence, as they all measure some aspect of the system.

 

Thanks Stringer, I've never heard of the confidence interval...

 

Pods do you sometimes just type what sounds good? lol. Manningham was a ROOKIE in '08 with all of 4 catches. 34 year old Amani Toomer started 12 games. Steve Smith was a sophomore still developing. Burress was 31 and started 9 games.

What's your point? Cruz wasn't in NY in '08 BTW.

 

Probably not, no.

 

It would either get moved to the rants area or out of bounds, and you know it.